I count 2 busts in the last 9 years. Virtanen and Juolevi. Certainly disappointing but you can’t ignore that we still managed to get a franchise player in every position (Pettersson, Hughes, Demko)

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Wow....what ever you say.....Patches is the greatest hockey player in the world....I believe everything you say.

Only thing he was gonna be top 20 in was amount of cocaine snorted

Dude it’s public knowledge that the leafs offered him the exact same contract the canes did. They literally offered him 1.5m for 1 year and he turned it down to go to Carolina. Also you are talking about a 25 year old. Not many 25 year olds with the level of success kase has had retire unless it is an actual career ending injury. You are creating false narratives in your head and are compensating for the fact the leafs just are not that good.

Demko a franchise player?.......Great goalie.....but that seems to be stretching a bit.

Am I saying he’s the best player in the world? No. But he certainly is pretty good. Canes literally got a 30-40 goal player for free. I can’t see how you’re so against that. They paid NOTHING to acquire him. They lose absolutely nothing. No risk, high reward…

Didn't your parents ever tell you there is no free lunch in life.

You’re the only person on this site who doesn’t think he’d a franchise goalie. He’s arguably top 5-8 in the league

I actually have an armchair created this week titled "2022-23 Leafs- Is Dubas a Genius or a Fool" based on his unconventional approach to building Stanley Cup champion by 1) adding the greatest UFA that ever made it to market when the young stars were just starting out not when they were hitting their prime like other championship GMs did and 2) Not signing their young stars to lucrative bridge contracts until they hit their prime like Tampa Bay, etc including Brayden Point, MacKinnon, Kucherov, even M Tkachuk, and many, MANY more.

The odds are against Dubas that he handled those 2 things properly when the lottery handed him a franchise center, an allstar RW and all the money a GM could ever dream of to develop a world class management team.

...I didn't have the heart to post it

My issue with Patches.....Is he is not a 200 foot player and only likes to score goals.

You do realize that future considerations does not actually mean anything right? Patches is a rental. If he sucks, oh well his contract expires after this year anyway. You can’t seriously think Carolina lost that trade. Don’t be ridiculous

Oh, I'm sure that they're all too memorable for him . . . like Colten Teubert is for me (drafted before Erik Karlsson, Jake Gardiner, Jordan Eberle and John Carlson).

SaskLeaf is the only one of them I know. I have to find the others because it gets lonely among the “he can do no wrong” fanboys

Oh boo how. He likes to score goals. Next thing you’re going to tell me is that Ovechkin is not a good player because he only likes to score goals

LOL!!!

This is absolutely irrelevant information BUT just as entertaining as the rest of the posts.

Simply awesome @OldNYIfan, Simply awesome!

You have to give a GM at least 5 years to judge his work.......so lets see how the Leafs do this year and next before one judges the career of Kyle Dubas as GM of the Leafs.

The difference is is that they don’t put a label on mid round picks that they will be the next NHL star. Every team has busts. We laugh at the leafs players who are “busts” because really they get overhyped and shouldn’t be considered busts but rather let downs. I’m super high on gleb trikozov. Am I labeling him as off limits and a guy who poses actual value in the NHL that could acquire NHL players? HELL NO! U can be high on a prospect and have them be a let down but the fact that the leafs cycle through a player being the next piece away from a cup to a let down to another guy being the missing piece. We laugh at you because you have overvalued your prospects much more than every other fan base and the only one that comes close to the leafs in terms of overrating the prospects is montreal but they at least have some dignity. I don’t see them trading Sean Farrell and a 2nd for a player who is actually good. This is something unique to leafs fans and that’s why we pick on you for it. The fact that bracco was supposed to be the perfect linemate for matthews and in the end I’m pretty sure he isn’t under an NHL contract is what we find funny and how he was “untouchable” according to leafs fans

I enjoy this sub conversation happening within the rest of this thread. A short break from all the nonsense that one Leafs fan is spewing

I’m stealing these factoids

So you’re telling me that the Leafs late round picks are not second comings of Gretzky?

Now you are sounding like Dale Hunter!!

I say this with sympathy, Kase will look good for 15-20 games… and he will break in half and go on IR

Woah I wouldn’t go that far… i would say more they are the second comings of pavel brendl

Brent or Keith??