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Équipe: 2022-23 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 10 juill. 2022
Publié: 10 juill. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3925 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
1830 000 $
2950 000 $
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UFAANSCAP HIT
11 200 000 $
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1900 000 $
1750 000 $
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MTL
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (EDM)
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MTL
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (COL)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (COL)
COL
  1. Drouin, Jonathan (2 750 000 $ retained)
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MTL
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (TOR)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (CGY)
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MTL
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (NYI)
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MTL
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (DAL)
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2382 500 000 $65 451 666 $1 132 500 $1 570 000 $17 048 334 $
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
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842 500 $842 500 $ (Bonis de performance507 500 $$508K)
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950 000 $950 000 $
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
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900 000 $900 000 $
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10 juill. 2022 à 20 h 51
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Isles have no cap space for Anderson.
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10 juill. 2022 à 20 h 52
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Habs easily decline all of these trades. Obvious troll account
10 juill. 2022 à 21 h 9
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Quoting: Campabee
Habs easily decline all of these trades. Obvious troll account


How much are you valuing these guys at LMAO. 2 firsts a piece? If anything it felt like half of them I was being generous with
10 juill. 2022 à 21 h 10
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Isles have no cap space for Anderson.


Knowing Lou he'll find it. Isles were already connected to Anderson, and with Lou being himself, not a chance the dude doesn't just stay on that one track. Already rumours floating about him floating Varly and Beau. Only a matter of time before he pulls some stunt like this
10 juill. 2022 à 21 h 12
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COL declines that, they aren’t trading for a guy not interested in defense or forechecking simply because a decade ago him and MacKinnon were good together.
10 juill. 2022 à 21 h 13
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Knowing Lou he'll find it. Isles were already connected to Anderson, and with Lou being himself, not a chance the dude doesn't just stay on that one track. Already rumours floating about him floating Varly and Beau. Only a matter of time before he pulls some stunt like this


Anderson was never connected to the Isles, it was literally a blogger. The Isles writers and Lou himself both have said they are keeping Varly as he wants both goalies, and Beau was brought to MTL to welcome their draft picks.

Everything you have said is false.
10 juill. 2022 à 21 h 18
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Quoting: MMXD
How much are you valuing these guys at LMAO. 2 firsts a piece? If anything it felt like half of them I was being generous with


Anderson for a 3rd rounder, but Petry gets you a 1st? And Drouin at half salary gets you a 2nd and 3rd? Dvorak a 2nd and 3rd?

Anderson was almost packaged for the 2nd overall 😂. He's easily worth at the very least a late 1st rounder and a B prospect. Petry is worth probably a late 1st but his cap hit coupled with the down year he had scares teams off. Dvorak was literally traded for 2 2nds last year, can't imagine his value changed at all. For the Habs to move Drouin they'd probably have to throw in on top of eating his cap. The most realistic move here is Allen for a 3rd.
10 juill. 2022 à 21 h 31
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Anderson for a 3rd rounder, but Petry gets you a 1st? And Drouin at half salary gets you a 2nd and 3rd? Dvorak a 2nd and 3rd?

Anderson was almost packaged for the 2nd overall 😂. He's easily worth at the very least a late 1st rounder and a B prospect. Petry is worth probably a late 1st but his cap hit coupled with the down year he had scares teams off. Dvorak was literally traded for 2 2nds last year, can't imagine his value changed at all. For the Habs to move Drouin they'd probably have to throw in on top of eating his cap. The most realistic move here is Allen for a 3rd.


Dvorak was traded for a 1st + 2nd but his value now would only be about a late 1st and 3rd or 4th
10 juill. 2022 à 21 h 33
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Quoting: Campabee
Habs easily decline all of these trades. Obvious troll account


I think that you should be careful about accusing people of trolling. Real, real careful.

Allen for a third and a fifth appears in a post by Montreal fan Minimont here:
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/3413288

The exact Allen trade appears in a post by Montreal fan ppp here:
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/3413102

The exact Drouin trade appears in a post by Montreal fan Camarade here:
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/3420481

The exact Dvorak trade appears in a post by SamTheGoalie36, who isn’t a Montreal fan, here without objection by Habs adherents:
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/3419288

Dvorak for two seconds instead of a second and a third appears in a post by Montreal fan RoyBoy here:
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/3415137

Petry for Radek Faksa and a Dallas second occurs in a post by Montreal stalwart @habitantlecolon here, so Petry for a first doesn’t seem out of place:
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/3422133

Petry for a second appears in a post by Montreal fan @weaned_on_the_Habs here:
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/3411145
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10 juill. 2022 à 21 h 43
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
I think that you should be careful about accusing people of trolling. Real, real careful.

Allen for a third and a fifth appears in a post by Montreal fan Minimont here:
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/3413288

The exact Allen trade appears in a post by Montreal fan ppp here:
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/3413102

The exact Drouin trade appears in a post by Montreal fan Camarade here:
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/3420481

The exact Dvorak trade appears in a post by SamTheGoalie36, who isn’t a Montreal fan, here without objection by Habs adherents:
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/3419288

Dvorak for two seconds instead of a second and a third appears in a post by Montreal fan RoyBoy here:
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/3415137

Petry for Radek Faksa and a Dallas second occurs in a post by Montreal stalwart habitantlecolon here, so Petry for a first doesn’t seem out of place:
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/3422133

Petry for a second appears in a post by Montreal fan weaned_on_the_Habs here:
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/3411145


Those are outliers. Most Habs fans trades are Allen for a 2nd or 3rd (so I will give you that one)

Drouin half retained for a late first or 2nd at the deadline

Dvorak is most commonly traded for a 1st + 3rd a 1st min. Also his value according to guys like Lebrun, Freidman and Seravelli has remained close to what the Habs paid for him.

Petry's most common trade is Dellandria or Stranges + 2nd or a 1st + Khudobin

Just cause you can find similar trades posted by Habs fans doesn't automatically make that their values. I know of at least 2 Leafs fans who want to trade Nylander for Anderson straight up. Does that mean Nylander's value is just Anderson 1 for 1? No it just means that those fans don't value Nylander as much as other Leafs fans. The same can be said for just about any other fan base on this site.
10 juill. 2022 à 21 h 44
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
I think that you should be careful about accusing people of trolling. Real, real careful.

Allen for a third and a fifth appears in a post by Montreal fan Minimont here:
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/3413288

The exact Allen trade appears in a post by Montreal fan ppp here:
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/3413102

The exact Drouin trade appears in a post by Montreal fan Camarade here:
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/3420481

The exact Dvorak trade appears in a post by SamTheGoalie36, who isn’t a Montreal fan, here without objection by Habs adherents:
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/3419288

Dvorak for two seconds instead of a second and a third appears in a post by Montreal fan RoyBoy here:
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/3415137

Petry for Radek Faksa and a Dallas second occurs in a post by Montreal stalwart habitantlecolon here, so Petry for a first doesn’t seem out of place:
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/3422133

Petry for a second appears in a post by Montreal fan weaned_on_the_Habs here:
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/3411145


I do trade for Faksa like the first day he was listed on Dallas roster Petry is just the third player for whom i'd trade for Faksa!!
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10 juill. 2022 à 21 h 51
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Those are outliers. Most Habs fans trades are Allen for a 2nd or 3rd (so I will give you that one)

Drouin half retained for a late first or 2nd at the deadline

Dvorak is most commonly traded for a 1st + 3rd a 1st min. Also his value according to guys like Lebrun, Freidman and Seravelli has remained close to what the Habs paid for him.

Petry's most common trade is Dellandria or Stranges + 2nd or a 1st + Khudobin

Just cause you can find similar trades posted by Habs fans doesn't automatically make that their values. I know of at least 2 Leafs fans who want to trade Nylander for Anderson straight up. Does that mean Nylander's value is just Anderson 1 for 1? No it just means that those fans don't value Nylander as much as other Leafs fans. The same can be said for just about any other fan base on this site.


My point isn't that every Montreal fan I quoted is perfectly accurate -- my point is that if Montreal fans think that these are reasonable values no matter what your opinion is (and why should anyone believe your opinion is superior to Minimont's or ppp's or RoyBoy's or anyone else I cited?), then you should not be accusing people of trolling because obviously the OP's post is within reason. Maybe the outliers are the Habs extremists are the guys who thought (and apparently still think) that "Anderson was almost packaged for second overall" despite any actual evidence of that dream.
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10 juill. 2022 à 23 h 11
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Bailey for Anderson.
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10 juill. 2022 à 23 h 19
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Quoting: Campabee
Dvorak was traded for a 1st + 2nd but his value now would only be about a late 1st and 3rd or 4th


Sh*t you right I knew it was 2 picks just forgot one of them was a 1st. Idk his value would change all too much. He had a pretty comparable season to years past.
10 juill. 2022 à 23 h 21
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Bailey for Anderson.


Wouldn't be terrible
11 juill. 2022 à 0 h 19
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My point isn't that every Montreal fan I quoted is perfectly accurate -- my point is that if Montreal fans think that these are reasonable values no matter what your opinion is (and why should anyone believe your opinion is superior to Minimont's or ppp's or RoyBoy's or anyone else I cited?), then you should not be accusing people of trolling because obviously the OP's post is within reason. Maybe the outliers are the Habs extremists are the guys who thought (and apparently still think) that "Anderson was almost packaged for second overall" despite any actual evidence of that dream.


You missed the point, guess I need to spoon feed you again.

most again most Habs ACGM's created by Habs fans have the values of the players you pointed out as being what I said above. You can cherry pick the bad ACGM's all you want but that does not make those ones right. In fact I am willing to bet that the only reason half those ACGM's are selling our players short is cause those fans were tires of having to defend their positions to Habs trolls like you. You always come on every single Habs ACGM and crap on it.

Quoting: habitantlecolon
I do trade for Faksa like the first day he was listed on Dallas roster Petry is just the third player for whom i'd trade for Faksa!!


Don't worry we know this guy likes to crap on all Habs ACGM's and he cherry picks information to suit his narrative. I know you have done many ACGM's involving Petry to Dallas and if I am not mistaken your favorite is Dellandria + 2nd for Petry, right. This guy just has a hard on for anything Habs related. Must be compensating for his teams underwhelming number of cups.
11 juill. 2022 à 10 h 47
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You missed the point, guess I need to spoon feed you again.

most again most Habs ACGM's created by Habs fans have the values of the players you pointed out as being what I said above. You can cherry pick the bad ACGM's all you want but that does not make those ones right. In fact I am willing to bet that the only reason half those ACGM's are selling our players short is cause those fans were tires of having to defend their positions to Habs trolls like you. You always come on every single Habs ACGM and crap on it.


No, I come on every single truly awful Habs ACGM and crap on THEM. You falsely assume that because I and other fans bash ridiculously bad Montreal ACGMs, we therefore bash all Montreal ACGMs. This is known as The Fallacy of the Undistributed Middle. On the contrary: we aren’t anti-Montreal in general, we just strenuously object to really bad postings from a clique of clueless Montreal homers who habitually overrate their players. We don’t criticize Habs posts because we’re biased, we attack them on merit – or, more accurately, lack thereof. The reason why you perceive our comments as constantly negative is simply that you are confronted by our objections to those terrible constructions which agree with your own misjudgments. For example, before last week’s draft, that segment of Habs fans posted a series of ACGMs advocating Josh Anderson trades that grew more exaggerated and fanciful with each day, beginning with Anderson and the 26 t h overall pick for #13 and progressing from there to increasingly absurd heights, culminating with one ACGM in which one of you suggested that Anderson and #26 was worth the second overall selection. Remember this one?

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/3384239

Second overall, indeed.

We’ll stop rejecting every awful Montreal ACGM when you guys stop publishing them.

One final note: the issue here isn’t whether I or anyone else is anti-Canadien or what the best value for any Canadien player is. The issue is the impropriety of calling someone a troll simply because his trade values are different from yours. You have no defense to my proof that his trades mirror trade proposals made by self-professed Montreal fans who are not trolls, so you simply dismiss the proof as if it didn’t exist and then go on to the irrelevant point that many Montreal fans disagree with each other on evaluations. But the proof is there, and it is unrefuted.
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