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Créé par: Florida_Man_Maroon
Équipe: 2022-23 Rangers de New York
Date de création initiale: 30 juin 2022
Publié: 30 juin 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Give your honest feedback on this trade
Transactions
NYR
  1. Schmaltz, Nick (2 925 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
My cuh and formulated this trade. Who wins?
ARI
  1. Georgiev, Alexandar [Droits de RFA]
  2. Lundkvist, Nils
  3. Nemeth, Patrik
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (NYR)
Rachats de contrats
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2022
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2023
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2024
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
1582 500 000 $71 916 469 $0 $3 650 000 $10 583 531 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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11 642 857 $11 642 857 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 4
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8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 8
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1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 5
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2 300 000 $2 300 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
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3 641 667 $3 641 667 $
C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
AG, AD
RFA - 1
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762 500 $762 500 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
2 925 000 $2 925 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 4
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
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9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 7
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5 666 667 $5 666 667 $
G
UFA - 3
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8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 4
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
DG
RFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
DD
RFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Rangers de New York
1 525 000 $1 525 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1

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30 juin 2022 à 22 h 41
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30 juin 2022 à 22 h 48
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Coyotes not retaining that much
30 juin 2022 à 22 h 51
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Dial down the volume a bit, lot of assets moving. Lot of money retained.

Makes sense for Arizona to deal Schmaltz because his deal is super backloaded. They probably retain max 2mil (which comes out to more than that in real dollars). Ownership is pinching pennies so they'd opt to retain less even it means a lesser return.

Something like Schneider + Nemeth + 3rd for Schmaltz (2mil retained) - maybe a lower pick if one at all since Schneider's pretty coveted.
30 juin 2022 à 22 h 57
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Quoting: Sagecoll
Dial down the volume a bit, lot of assets moving. Lot of money retained.

Makes sense for Arizona to deal Schmaltz because his deal is super backloaded. They probably retain max 2mil (which comes out to more than that in real dollars). Ownership is pinching pennies so they'd opt to retain less even it means a lesser return.

Something like Schneider + Nemeth + 3rd for Schmaltz (2mil retained) - maybe a lower pick if one at all since Schneider's pretty coveted.


Why on earth would we move Schneider instead of Lundkvist? Schmaltz is okay, but he’s not a high end young center. He’s a decent 2C (still not convinced on a cup contender though he’d be a good enough 2C).
30 juin 2022 à 22 h 58
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Nothing in for Arizona....big retention. Georgiev may not worth his contract, Nemeth isn't worth is contract...and no reason for Nemeth to have Arizona on his trade list.
30 juin 2022 à 22 h 58
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Arizona isn't retaining 50% on Schmaltz for a bunch of worthless pieces, Nemeth has no value Georgiev is a glorified backup Lundkvist hasn't proven a thing yet. Arizona as it passes big time.
30 juin 2022 à 23 h 14
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Why on earth would we move Schneider instead of Lundkvist? Schmaltz is okay, but he’s not a high end young center. He’s a decent 2C (still not convinced on a cup contender though he’d be a good enough 2C).


I mean Lundkvist is honestly the better player unless you're Gerard "Kevin Rooney is a better player than Kakko" Gallant.
30 juin 2022 à 23 h 18
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Arizona passes. Nothing enticing in that offer. I think there’s several players that profile the same as nils at the end of the 1st, early 2nd, where we have 6 picks
30 juin 2022 à 23 h 24
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I mean Lundkvist is honestly the better player unless you're Gerard "Kevin Rooney is a better player than Kakko" Gallant.


I guess we’d need to see them both out there. I’m just not a fan of having a bunch of smaller guys on the back end. We’ve already got Fox. I’d prefer to fill that lineup with guys who are larger and more likely to withstand the rigors of the playoffs then smaller guys. Dream d core if they hit potential to me is Miller - Fox, Lindgren - Trouba and Robertson - Schneider. They’d be mobile, big and nasty. Guys like Jones and Lundkvist are likely to be fantastic players, but at the end of the day, you need guys that can play the position and not just be another forward.
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30 juin 2022 à 23 h 32
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I guess we’d need to see them both out there. I’m just not a fan of having a bunch of smaller guys on the back end. We’ve already got Fox. I’d prefer to fill that lineup with guys who are larger and more likely to withstand the rigors of the playoffs then smaller guys. Dream d core if they hit potential to me is Miller - Fox, Lindgren - Trouba and Robertson - Schneider. They’d be mobile, big and nasty. Guys like Jones and Lundkvist are likely to be fantastic players, but at the end of the day, you need guys that can play the position and not just be another forward.


Yeah I mean I'd rather players who don't treat the puck like a hot potato any time there's some pressure on them regardless of size. Would size be nice? Sure. But it's a secondary priority after something like being able to navigate zone exits with control and not just throwing the puck out to center ice and hoping for the best while we just end up getting out shot 2:1 every game.
30 juin 2022 à 23 h 38
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Yeah I mean I'd rather players who don't treat the puck like a hot potato any time there's some pressure on them regardless of size. Would size be nice? Sure. But it's a secondary priority after something like being able to navigate zone exits with control and not just throwing the puck out to center ice and hoping for the best while we just end up getting out shot 2:1 every game.


I completely agree there. That got painful to watch after a while. That’s one area where I think Zac Jones could’ve helped tremendously, but I’d have better lucky winning the lottery than Gallant putting Jones and Schneider out there together.
30 juin 2022 à 23 h 45
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I completely agree there. That got painful to watch after a while. That’s one area where I think Zac Jones could’ve helped tremendously, but I’d have better lucky winning the lottery than Gallant putting Jones and Schneider out there together.


yeah honestly I'm not sure this run was actually good for us. Gallant is no different/better than AV and going as far as they did probably bought him an extra season that he doesn't deserve. I mean maybe 2 of our Dmen could legitimately move the puck with control in the playoffs while 2 great puck movers sat in the press box.
1 juill. 2022 à 1 h 28
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yeah honestly I'm not sure this run was actually good for us. Gallant is no different/better than AV and going as far as they did probably bought him an extra season that he doesn't deserve. I mean maybe 2 of our Dmen could legitimately move the puck with control in the playoffs while 2 great puck movers sat in the press box.


That’s what worries me the most. This run is going to make them do something hasty like overpay for Miller or Kane. And if they don’t win, then we’re looking at another decade of mediocrity since they’ll have too many aging guys on big contracts and not be able to resign the remaining young guys, supplement the lineup with prospects or players drafted since they traded them all. It’ll be the 2010’s all over again, which aside from maybe 2011-12, 2013-14 and 2014-15, I don’t think they were ever good enough to try and win a cup. The runs were so much fun to see, but the idea of repeating the process of trading all young guys and picks away to make a run scares me.
1 juill. 2022 à 2 h 22
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Nemethis will cost a 2nd to unload, Georgiev might land a 6-7th if we're lucky, making this Nils for Schmaltz & 3m retained for 4 years lol
 
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