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Créé par: Hammerwise
Équipe: 2022-23 Flames de Calgary
Date de création initiale: 30 juin 2022
Publié: 30 juin 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Probably a non-goer.

I like the CGY depth here and the addition of Desnoyers, Fedotov, Zamula and good 3rd aren;t earth shattering but all 3 are upper/high midlevel prospects that are close to helping/playing now and all 3 are very capable of top 2 line/pairing

Koneckny at 4mil for 3 yrs (scoring 50+ pts on a bad team, bad coaches, missing almost all of its top 6 for huge chunks) is a downgrade from Tkachuk.

But I like the deep, talented and more youthful CGY team as a result, very deep with a 13/14th forward of Pelletier/Carpenter/Desnoyers and a 7th dman of either Stone or Zamula.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
43 750 000 $
44 750 000 $
3950 000 $
3925 000 $
3925 000 $
69 750 000 $
3975 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
11 150 000 $
510 150 000 $
42 750 000 $
32 750 000 $
3975 000 $
1925 000 $
Transactions
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CGY
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2023 (SEA)
2.
CGY
  1. Desnoyers, Elliot
  2. Fedotov, Ivan
  3. Konecny, Travis (1 500 000 $ retained)
  4. Zamula, Yegor
  5. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (PHI)
Détails additionnels:
This would be for Tkachuk's rights, only signed for cap illustrations
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2282 500 000 $72 745 833 $0 $0 $9 754 167 $
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10 150 000 $10 150 000 $
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UFA - 7
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4 850 000 $4 850 000 $
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4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
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4 900 000 $4 900 000 $
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NTC
UFA - 5
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5 350 000 $5 350 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
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2 300 000 $2 300 000 $
AG, AD, C
RFA - 2
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6 375 000 $6 375 000 $
C, AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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2 125 000 $2 125 000 $
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
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863 333 $863 333 $
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975 000 $975 000 $
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863 333 $863 333 $
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RFA - 2
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1 237 500 $1 237 500 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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4 550 000 $4 550 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
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NMC
UFA - 4
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3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
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1 125 000 $1 125 000 $
DD
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UFA - 2
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750 000 $750 000 $
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UFA - 1
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1 550 000 $1 550 000 $
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RFA - 1
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
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756 667 $756 667 $
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RFA - 1
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903 333 $903 333 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
C
RFA - 1
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1 150 000 $1 150 000 $ (25 000 $$25K25 000 $$25K)
AD, C
UFA - 1
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825 000 $825 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (Bonis de performance37 500 $$38K)
C, AG
RFA - 3
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925 000 $925 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
925 000 $925 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (Bonis de performance175 000 $$175K)
G
UFA - 2

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30 juin 2022 à 6 h 2
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That is a horrible return for Calgary.
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30 juin 2022 à 6 h 6
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
That is a horrible return for Calgary.


I was thinking his rights arent as valuable. Koneckny scored 50+ pts playing on a bad team, bad coaches, with almost all the other top 6 injured or missing for chunks of the season, the retention is awesome = 3 yrs of 1.5mil, zamula is a solid prospect and the 3rd high.

Its light, maybe PHI adds a very good forward prospect (Tuomaala, Tippett, o@brien, or Desnoyers).

But overall I like the depth of the defense: (bringing big body Gudbranson back to pair with Valimaki and a 7th of either Zamula or Stone) and I like the forward lines, while bringing in a couple of rookies.

Other teams have more cap than PHI and might beat the PHI offer, but this offer is full of youth and future with a downgrade on Koneckny
30 juin 2022 à 6 h 11
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Quoting: Hammerwise
I was thinking his rights arent as valuable. Koneckny scored 50+ pts playing on a bad team, bad coaches, with almost all the other top 6 injured or missing for chunks of the season, the retention is awesome = 3 yrs of 1.5mil, zamula is a solid prospect and the 3rd high.

Its light, maybe PHI adds a very good forward prospect (Tuomaala, Tippett, obrien, or Desnoyers).

But overall I like the depth of the defense: (bringing big body Gudbranson back to pair with Valimaki and a 7th of either Zamula or Stone) and I like the forward lines, while bringing in a couple of rookies.

Other teams have more cap than PHI and might beat the PHI offer, but this offer is full of youth and future with a downgrade on Koneckny


Unlike Minnesota with Fiala or Buffalo with Reinhart, Calgary has no desire to trade Tkachuk nor do they need to do to any issues. Tkachuk is also a far better player than both of them too. Like the offer has to start with #5+++
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30 juin 2022 à 6 h 15
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Unlike Minnesota with Fiala or Buffalo with Reinhart, Calgary has no desire to trade Tkachuk nor do they need to do to any issues. Tkachuk is also a far better player than both of them too. Like the offer has to start with #7+++


Quoting: Hammerwise
I was thinking his rights arent as valuable. Koneckny scored 50+ pts playing on a bad team, bad coaches, with almost all the other top 6 injured or missing for chunks of the season, the retention is awesome = 3 yrs of 1.5mil, zamula is a solid prospect and the 3rd high.


the rights do still hold a lot of value. Calgary could realistically sign Tkachuk and Gaudreau and just sacrifice their bottom 6 and bottom d pair for lesser guys. and even if they had to decide between the 2 they are gonna choose tkachuck 99/100 times.


Its light, maybe PHI adds a very good forward prospect (Tuomaala, Tippett, obrien, or Desnoyers).

But overall I like the depth of the defense: (bringing big body Gudbranson back to pair with Valimaki and a 7th of either Zamula or Stone) and I like the forward lines, while bringing in a couple of rookies.

Other teams have more cap than PHI and might beat the PHI offer, but this offer is full of youth and future with a downgrade on Koneckny


Quoting: Hammerwise
I was thinking his rights arent as valuable. Koneckny scored 50+ pts playing on a bad team, bad coaches, with almost all the other top 6 injured or missing for chunks of the season, the retention is awesome = 3 yrs of 1.5mil, zamula is a solid prospect and the 3rd high.

Its light, maybe PHI adds a very good forward prospect (Tuomaala, Tippett, obrien, or Desnoyers).

But overall I like the depth of the defense: (bringing big body Gudbranson back to pair with Valimaki and a 7th of either Zamula or Stone) and I like the forward lines, while bringing in a couple of rookies.

Other teams have more cap than PHI and might beat the PHI offer, but this offer is full of youth and future with a downgrade on Koneckny




any trade for Tkachuck to Philly starts with.

5OA+ Farabee+ Zamula or York+ Brink potentially even more like another solid prospect or 2nd+
30 juin 2022 à 7 h 14
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Quoting: Dekes
any trade for Tkachuck to Philly starts with.

5OA+ Farabee+ Zamula or York+ Brink potentially even more like another solid prospect or 2nd+

That’s way too pricey, I doubt Philly does that even if it’s McDavid. Farabee alone has potential to be an elite forward 40+ goal scorer. The numbers he put up so far have been under a system that has absolutely ruined every players offensive contributions.
30 juin 2022 à 9 h 50
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Flames don’t even consider this, nothing in that trade interests them. Wasn’t konecny healthy scratched a bunch last year? And all those prospects are useless to calgary and will probably never make the nhl
30 juin 2022 à 11 h 21
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Quoting: Dekes
any trade for Tkachuck to Philly starts with.

5OA+ Farabee+ Zamula or York+ Brink potentially even more like another solid prospect or 2nd+


Nah, wouldn't be 5OA AND Farabee, would be one or the other than the rest. If the Flyers were truly going for it, i would say it's the 5th OA, another 1st probably, and any number of prospects and probably TK as well.
 
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