Miller for Debrusk

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Créé par: GMBL

Équipe: 2022-23 Canucks de Vancouver

Date de création initiale: 25 juin 2022

Publié: 25 juin 2022

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

Not going to tire myself with trying to balance the trade but I would like to see what Bos+Van fans think of acquiring the other guy. (Feel free to out your mock trades in the comments). Edit: Debrusk does not need to be the centerpiece

Van: DeBrusk's 2-year deal isn't ideal for Vancouver but you are giving up a rental for him, and perhaps he can bring some of the stuff Miller did to the table.

Bos: With Bergeron coming back on a 1-yr deal, it would be wise to think about that center position before being faced with uncertainty again. Miller seems like a better fit than trading for 2-yrs of PLD or signing Kadri to a big contract. Even at 5m Miller's contract can perhaps give Bos a lot of cap flexibility to go sign guys. Let's assume that Van allows Bos to speak with Miller/give them a ballpark on what he is looking in an extension.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Boeser, Brock		8	7 500 000 $

Transactions

VAN

DeBrusk, Jake

Détails additionnels:

Read the description before commenting please (yes, this trade won't be a one for one)

BOS

Miller, J.T.

Rachats de contrats

Braden Holtby: 1 900 000 $
Jake Virtanen: 500 000 $

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
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INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
21	82 500 000 $	76 964 167 $	1 250 000 $	2 000 000 $	5 535 833 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
DeBrusk, Jake 4 000 000 $4 000 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 2	Pettersson, Elias 7 350 000 $7 350 000 $ C, AG UFA - 2	Boeser, Brock 7 500 000 $7 500 000 $ AD UFA - 3
Kuzmenko, Andrei 950 000 $950 000 $ (850 000 $$850K) AG, AD UFA - 1	Horvat, Bo 4 125 000 $4 125 000 $ C UFA - 1	Podkolzin, Vasily 925 000 $925 000 $ (850 000 $$850K) AD, AG RFA - 2
Höglander, Nils 891 667 $891 667 $ (300 000 $$300K) AG, AD RFA - 1		Garland, Conor 4 950 000 $4 950 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 4
Pearson, Tanner 3 250 000 $3 250 000 $ AG M-NTC UFA - 2	Dickinson, Jason 2 650 000 $2 650 000 $ C, AG UFA - 2	Ferland, Micheal 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 1
	Dowling, Justin 750 000 $750 000 $ C, AG UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Hughes, Quinn 7 850 000 $7 850 000 $ DG UFA - 5	Myers, Tyler 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 2	Demko, Thatcher 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ G UFA - 4
Ekman-Larsson, Oliver 7 260 000 $7 260 000 $ DG NMC UFA - 5	Poolman, Tucker 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ DD UFA - 3	Martin, Spencer 762 500 $762 500 $ G UFA - 2
Dermott, Travis 1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1	Schenn, Luke 850 000 $850 000 $ DD UFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Burroughs, Kyle 750 000 $750 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1		Keeper, Brady 762 500 $762 500 $ DD UFA - 1

25 juin 2022 à 7 h 50

GMBL

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The team was looking empty, so I just paid Boeser and moved guys off IR and LTIR, still a ton of unsigned RFAs.

Maybe adding Garland to the trade wouldn't be a bad idea.

25 juin 2022 à 7 h 59

Richard88

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Seems like terrible value for Vancouver.

25 juin 2022 à 8 h 6

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Quoting: Richard88

Seems like terrible value for Vancouver.

I was excited for the first comment but you didn't read the trade details which said to read the description.

It's just an idea of swapping the two atm, not a mock trade yet.

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25 juin 2022 à 8 h 14

Richard88

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Quoting: GMBL

I was excited for the first comment but you didn't read the trade details which said to read the description.

It's just an idea of swapping the two atm, not a mock trade yet.

I read the description.

Any swap with these two as the main pieces would be bad for Vancouver. They should aim for a big piece in return for JTM, not watering down the return.

25 juin 2022 à 8 h 24

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Quoting: Richard88

I read the description.

Any swap with these two as the main pieces would be bad for Vancouver. They should aim for a big piece in return for JTM, not watering down the return.

Ah okay, but still Debrusk doesn't have to be the main piece coming back from Bos, he probably would be the only roster player of significance though. Vancouver needs to shed some cap, so perhaps they can add Miller and Garland, I don't know if Bos would want the two, I don't know anything about Boston's prospect pool either to suggest what A prospect can be included, but yeah perhaps it can be a blockbuster deal of some sort. I don't think it would include Pasta though.

25 juin 2022 à 8 h 40

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Debrusk isn’t good enough to be a centrepiece in a Miller trade. A 40 point winger who’s 26 and is only team controlled for 2 years? No thanks

25 juin 2022 à 8 h 49

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Modifié 25 juin 2022 à 8 h 54

Quoting: sedin33

Debrusk isn’t good enough to be a centrepiece in a Miller trade. A 40 point winger who’s 26 and is only team controlled for 2 years? No thanks

He doesn't have to be, he would likely just be the only significant roster player coming out of Boston.

Also, you only have Miller for one year. By all means if Boston has no prospects that would interest Van and they can get a huge package elsewhere like how @Richard88 was suggesting they try, then they will do that instead ofc.

I was thinking Garland and Miller can go to Bos, Garland for Debrusk is pretty much a one for one. So my question is what prospect(s) from Boston could Vancouver use?

25 juin 2022 à 8 h 53

sedin33

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Quoting: GMBL

I don’t think Boston is a good fit. Can’t think of a prospect that fit Vancouver’s needs. Sorry don’t think there’s a deal here

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25 juin 2022 à 9 h 0

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Quoting: sedin33

I don’t think Boston is a good fit. Can’t think of a prospect that fit Vancouver’s needs. Sorry don’t think there’s a deal here

Ty for your input, I just edited that post but you had already answered.

What do you think of Garland for DeBrusk assuming Miller/Boeser gets extended while the other gets traded for inexpensive but valuable pieces? Perhaps a minor unwanted contract along with Garland and a pick from Boston to offset the risk of losing DeBrusk.

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25 juin 2022 à 9 h 3

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Quoting: GMBL

I think the Kuzmenko signing allows the Canucks to trade a winger. Ideally would want a young RHD or center, but I could see Garland for Lysell type of deal. Boston would probably need to a pick.

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25 juin 2022 à 9 h 56

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MCDavidLeeRoth

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If you can’t afford to keep Miller (I don’t think Boston can atm) then Boston loses with these pieces, if you can, Vancouver loses.

Honestly, don’t hate the concept. DeBrusk has a good deal and his contract to production is better than what Miller would get probably. But that’s speculation. Would be interesting to see a final deal

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25 juin 2022 à 12 h 55

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Miller would cost too much to the Bruins for one year and if he re-signs (which they shouldn't since signing a 30yo to a contract when the team needs a rebuild isn't the right thing to do), the contract isn't gonna be good. I would simply not acquire Miller. If something can be worked around DeBrusk-Garland, that's more interesting for Boston imo (but not sure if VAN wants to move him).

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25 juin 2022 à 18 h 22

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Quoting: bhavikp27

Apparently they want to move him, Dickinson, and Pearson. The main motivation is to clear cap, so perhaps DeBrusk wouldn't be someone they are interested in

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