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Créé par: JhonnyCanuck5
Équipe: 2022-23 Red Wings de Detroit
Date de création initiale: 21 juin 2022
Publié: 21 juin 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Larkin and Bertuzzi both get roughly $1.5-2.25M raises on extentions.

Leaves roughly 14M in cap space to be weaponized at TDL and for future extentions to young players.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
21 500 000 $
2800 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
13 500 000 $
1900 000 $
12 000 000 $
22 000 000 $
Transactions
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  1. Monahan, Sean
Détails additionnels:
Could see this being a cap dump scenario where Calgary pays Detroit to take him, but to find a middle ground on CF, Detroit gives a mid round pick.
CGY
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2022 (COL)
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2482 500 000 $60 798 056 $0 $3 775 000 $21 701 944 $
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
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2 625 000 $2 625 000 $
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3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
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RFA - 3
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1 460 000 $1 460 000 $
AG, C
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
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UFA - 1
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2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
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UFA - 1
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UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
G
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
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1 350 000 $1 350 000 $
DG/DD
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Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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21 juin 2022 à 11 h 3
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Paying 6M for a broken Monahan when you can get Trocheck or Copp for similar money seems “lack luster”.
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21 juin 2022 à 11 h 17
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Paying 6M for a broken Monahan when you can get Trocheck or Copp for similar money seems “lack luster”.


I don't think that's the point since Monahan was placed here at 4C. I think it's giving the guy a chance to mentor the young players and resurrect himself so we can possibly flip him for a higher pick at the TDL. Monahan is only a 1 year contract vs 4-6 for Copp/Tro.
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21 juin 2022 à 11 h 23
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I don't think that's the point since Monahan was placed here at 4C. I think it's giving the guy a chance to mentor the young players and resurrect himself so we can possibly flip him for a higher pick at the TDL. Monahan is only a 1 year contract vs 4-6 for Copp/Tro.

That’s even worse. So we have Larkin and then the next center we have is Pius who would be an ideal 3C. We also have Rasmussen/Veleno/Stephens competing so essentially you’re paying 6M for a player with a major injury concern to mentor the youths by taking their ice time. I’d much rather get Trocheck or Copp for those 4-6 years to develop continuity with the guys and lead by example both on & off the ice.
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21 juin 2022 à 11 h 28
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That’s even worse. So we have Larkin and then the next center we have is Pius who would be an ideal 3C. We also have Rasmussen/Veleno/Stephens competing so essentially you’re paying 6M for a player with a major injury concern to mentor the youths by taking their ice time. I’d much rather get Trocheck or Copp for those 4-6 years to develop continuity with the guys and lead by example both on & off the ice.


Do I disagree with you? No. But I do agree with the OP's roster considering the title.

That 2nd line of V - Suter - Z has potential. They played well in very limited mins last year and I think it can be a thing if they get more time together, especially with a new coach.
21 juin 2022 à 11 h 42
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Quoting: dtd_tank
I don't think that's the point since Monahan was placed here at 4C. I think it's giving the guy a chance to mentor the young players and resurrect himself so we can possibly flip him for a higher pick at the TDL. Monahan is only a 1 year contract vs 4-6 for Copp/Tro



^This one gets it
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21 juin 2022 à 11 h 43
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Everything about this Monahan trade exhibits ineptitude.

Putting Monahan on the 4th line literally helps nobody.

He’s not a 4th line player and that isn’t where he’s going to ‘find himself’. He may have an opportunity to rejuvenate himself in a top 9 role with other skilled linemates.

Also, nobody is going to trade anything for Monahan without getting a sweetener from CGY.
21 juin 2022 à 11 h 47
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I just think Strome and Trocheck will get overpaid by someone. I could see Yzerman going after someone like D. Strome in Chicago or Roy in Vegas if available. I also think it depends on who they get in the draft to some extent. If they get a center who the believe can make the roster in 23/24, then I don’t think they overspend in FA. That said, if R. Strome or Trochek can be signed for team friendly deals then I’m all for it.
21 juin 2022 à 11 h 48
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Quoting: IDKtbh
Everything about this Monahan trade exhibits ineptitude.

Putting Monahan on the 4th line literally helps nobody.

He’s not a 4th line player and that isn’t where he’s going to ‘find himself’. He may have an opportunity to rejuvenate himself in a top 9 role with other skilled linemates.

Also, nobody is going to trade anything for Monahan without getting a sweetener from CGY.


See “additional details” on the Monahan trade.
21 juin 2022 à 11 h 49
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Quoting: JhonnyCanuck5
See “additional details” on the Monahan trade.

What’s “CF”?
21 juin 2022 à 11 h 50
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I just think Strome and Trocheck will get overpaid by someone. I could see Yzerman going after someone like D. Strome in Chicago or Roy in Vegas if available. I also think it depends on who they get in the draft to some extent. If they get a center who the believe can make the roster in 23/24, then I don’t think they overspend in FA. That said, if R. Strome or Trochek can be signed for team friendly deals then I’m all for it.


I wouldn't do a Ryan strome deal, I don't think he's that good without panarin. They have great chemistry together and he isn't very good when panarin is out. Dylan strome would be interesting if he is available, Roy would be really nice add.
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21 juin 2022 à 12 h 4
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What’s “CF”?


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21 juin 2022 à 12 h 5
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I wouldn't do a Ryan strome deal, I don't think he's that good without panarin. They have great chemistry together and he isn't very good when panarin is out. Dylan strome would be interesting if he is available, Roy would be really nice add.


I’d definitely rather have Dylan or Roy, I just don’t know if either would be available. Hoping the wings find a top 6 center in the draft.
21 juin 2022 à 12 h 14
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I’d definitely rather have Dylan or Roy, I just don’t know if either would be available. Hoping the wings find a top 6 center in the draft.


Honestly I'm hoping they poop the bed and get a top 3 pick personally. I think Fantili would be a great add. Bedard obviously would be unreal but I doubt we win the lottery. I don't know much about the rest of the top 10 but I hear it's pretty good as well.
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I’d definitely rather have Dylan or Roy, I just don’t know if either would be available. Hoping the wings find a top 6 center in the draft.


I feel like Dylan will be Suter 2.0, right down to coming from CHI lol. My preference is Copp, if available for a decent term.
21 juin 2022 à 13 h 20
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I feel like Dylan will be Suter 2.0, right down to coming from CHI lol. My preference is Copp, if available for a decent term.


I don’t see Copp leaving NY.
21 juin 2022 à 13 h 22
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Honestly I'm hoping they poop the bed and get a top 3 pick personally. I think Fantili would be a great add. Bedard obviously would be unreal but I doubt we win the lottery. I don't know much about the rest of the top 10 but I hear it's pretty good as well.


As much as I’d like to get a top 3 pick, I think the roster is closer to competing for a playoff spot than winning the lottery.
21 juin 2022 à 13 h 24
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Paying 6M for a broken Monahan when you can get Trocheck or Copp for similar money seems “lack luster”.


1. Monahan got surgery for a reason so "broken" is pretty outdated.
2. Why would either of Trocheck or Copp want to sign in Detroit over a contending team? Both will be highly sought after
21 juin 2022 à 13 h 29
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1. Monahan got surgery for a reason so "broken" is pretty outdated.
2. Why would either of Trocheck or Copp want to sign in Detroit over a contending team? Both will be highly sought after


Well, Copp is from here, and there's a likelihood that he trusts in Yzerman's ability to rebuild the team given (A) the success of TB and (B) the fact that he grew up watching Yzerman lead Detroit as an example on the ice. I think there's certainly a >0% chance of Copp signing in Detroit.
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21 juin 2022 à 13 h 41
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Well, Copp is from here, and there's a likelihood that he trusts in Yzerman's ability to rebuild the team given (A) the success of TB and (B) the fact that he grew up watching Yzerman lead Detroit as an example on the ice. I think there's certainly a >0% chance of Copp signing in Detroit.


Im very confident that Rangers re-sign Copp. He was an excellent fit for them. There is a chance he signs with Detroit but I dont think players care that much about going home this early in their careers
21 juin 2022 à 13 h 45
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Im very confident that Rangers re-sign Copp. He was an excellent fit for them. There is a chance he signs with Detroit but I dont think players care that much about going home this early in their careers


FWIW, JT was the same age when he signed in Toronto.
21 juin 2022 à 13 h 55
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FWIW, JT was the same age when he signed in Toronto.


Sure but I consider him an exception, a lot of Leafs fans thought they were getting Stamkos the year before that too. And Toronto is also arguably the most popular team for players to go home to. Gio, Spezza, Thornton, Marleau for example
21 juin 2022 à 14 h 37
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
1. Monahan got surgery for a reason so "broken" is pretty outdated.
2. Why would either of Trocheck or Copp want to sign in Detroit over a contending team? Both will be highly sought after


Quoting: dtd_tank
Well, Copp is from here, and there's a likelihood that he trusts in Yzerman's ability to rebuild the team given (A) the success of TB and (B) the fact that he grew up watching Yzerman lead Detroit as an example on the ice. I think there's certainly a >0% chance of Copp signing in Detroit.


Trocheck also grew up in Detroit.
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21 juin 2022 à 15 h 52
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Trocheck also grew up in Detroit.


I did not know that!
21 juin 2022 à 15 h 57
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1. Monahan got surgery for a reason so "broken" is pretty outdated.
2. Why would either of Trocheck or Copp want to sign in Detroit over a contending team? Both will be highly sought after

Anything hip, back, or knee is broken until otherwise displayed to regain form. As for why those UFAs may sign in Detroit, they grew up here and Detroit has the resources available and tracking well under Yzerman.
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21 juin 2022 à 16 h 49
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You definitely can ask more for a capdump in Monahan
 
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