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Créé par: Sidstick87

Équipe: 2022-23 Penguins de Pittsburgh

Date de création initiale: 6 juin 2022

Publié: 19 juin 2022

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

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▐▐▐▐▐ ***** Every "Smart" Pittsburgh Penguins Fans [2022 ~ Off-Season] Plan *****▐▐▐▐▐

1) -▬ MUST Re-Sign - Letang / Geno / Rakell ↔↔ These are still all Elite Top Players ▲▲ Ricky Rickardo Rakell looked scary good here.

2) ▬ Get a "Real" Back-Up Goalie →(OR)← 1B younger type Back-Up Goalie

3) ▬ Trade Target = Only 22yr - 25yr old Players ►THIS TEAM MUST GET YOUNGER◄

4) ▬ Target 6'-2" or Bigger / Tougher / Thicker / Faster type Forwards ↔↔↔↔ This team is Softer than Hot butter on a 100 degree day & is No longer a Top 15 Fast Team.

5) ▬ Don't be fooled by a 28yr old E-Rod that had a 35 game stretch "Career season." He is what he is, a great #13 to 4th liner = Don't be that Gullible Dumb GM that signs him to more than $1.25m per.

6) ▬ Since we are always in Top 5 of "MGL" == Add as many 25-26yr old Depth {UFA's} or {RFA's} (that don't get tendered) as possible @ Forward, D-man, & Goalie.

7) ▬ Remember our #13 & #14 Forwards usually play in 75% of games w/ all our Constant Injuries.

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▐▐ ~ LTIR LIST ======== Pens Top 10 ▬ 23 or Under Prospects

▐ ~ TAXI SQUAD LIST ==== 1st Call-Ups List from AHL ▬ ** Also Add : Poulin ▬ Puustine ▬ Bellerive from Prospect List.

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Signatures de joueurs autonomes

LISTE DE RÉSERVE	ANS	CAP HIT
Moore, Ian	3	811 000 $
Phillips, Clayton	1	792 000 $
Blomqvist, Joel	4	852 000 $
Broz, Tristan	4	852 000 $

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Lundeström, Isac	3	1 900 000 $
Trenin, Yakov	2	1 750 000 $
Formenton, Alex	2	1 500 000 $
Gaudette, Adam	1	800 000 $
True, Alex	1	775 000 $
Nylander, Alexander	1	750 000 $
Bellerive, Jordy	2	750 000 $
Drozg, Jan	2	750 000 $
Björkqvist, Kasper	1	750 000 $
Kovacevic, Johnathan	1	750 000 $
Guhle, Brendan	1	750 000 $

UFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Letang, Kris	5	7 580 000 $
Malkin, Evgeni	2	6 500 000 $
Rakell, Rickard	5	4 750 000 $
Beaulieu, Nathan	1	800 000 $
Comrie, Eric	2	1 750 000 $
Mikheyev, Ilya	1	3 400 000 $
Sandström, Felix	1	775 000 $
Delia, Collin	1	750 000 $
Niku, Sami	1	750 000 $
Juulsen, Noah	1	750 000 $
Gilbert, Dennis	1	750 000 $
Greer, AJ	1	750 000 $

CRÉÉ		ANS	CAP HIT
Lambert, Brad		4	925 000 $

Offres hostiles

Le salaire annuel moyen (AAV) de l'offre hostile est calculé en divisant la valeur totale du contrat par: 1. La durée totale du contrat, ou 2. Cinq ans

JOUEUR	AAV	COMPENSATION
True, Alex	775 000 $	Aucune compensation
Kovacevic, Johnathan	750 000 $	Aucune compensation
Guhle, Brendan	750 000 $	Aucune compensation

Transactions

PIT

Comtois, Maxime
Lundeström, Isac [Droits de RFA]
Moore, Ian [Liste de réserve]
Choix de 5e ronde en 2022 (ANA)

Détails additionnels:

▐ [Lundeström] Signs : 3yrs @ $1.9m Per
► Loved since Draft yr, Elite skill, C or L/W that's already a great 2-way C.

► [Comtois]- the 6'-2"/215lb Beast, could be a Elite net front Forward. BUT was scary bad last yr & hope a change of scenario helps.

► [Moore]- My Marino Part 2 Prospect, 6'2", underrated RHD @ Harvard.

ANA

Dumoulin, Brian
Kapanen, Kasperi [Droits de RFA]
Zohorna, Radim
Choix de 7e ronde en 2023 (PIT)

Détails additionnels:

▐ [Dumo] Signs : 4yr Ext. @ $5.75m Per
►only 30, still an Elite Shut-down LHD that battled small injuries all last yr & had a down yr BUT no way we can Re-Sign him here. Perfect for Drysdale (Letang Jr.)

▐ [Kappy] Signs : 2yrs @ $2.5m Per
► Hate Trading Kap, way too much skill. Only had that 1 down yr all 23-25yr old players have & will bounce back.

► [Big Z]- 6'7" C/LW that is an NHLer & is stuck in AHL here.

PIT

Välimäki, Juuso

Détails additionnels:

► I'm a huge Valimaki fan but he might need a change of scenery & could be the next stolen via Traded Dman for Pens?

CGY

Joseph, Pierre-Olivier [Droits de RFA]

Détails additionnels:

~ Vali & POJ BOTH : were 1st Rd LHD ▬ are only 22-23yrs old ▬ played in a chunk of gms in {20'-21'} ▬ then only played in a cpl gms in {21'-22'} & fell out of favor w/ teams.

PIT

Myers, Philippe
Trenin, Yakov [Droits de RFA]

Détails additionnels:

▐ [Trenin] Signs : 2yrs @ $1.75m Per
► 25, 6'2"/ 205+lb bottom 6 Forward, competes hard af, has skill, & is physical.

► [Myers]- 25yr, 6'5"/ 215lb RHD, always liked BUT was so bad in NSH got waived. Could this be the next Schultz, Pettersson, Cole, Daley, Oleksiak type Dman Reclamation Project??

NSH

Détails additionnels:

► [Zucker]- Bad Luck, Injuries, & Not a fit in [PIT]. If he stays healthy, could be a steal of a Top 6-9 LW for [NSH].

► [Friedman]- tough RHD, can play both sides, agitator, & 3rd pairing D

PIT

Formenton, Alex [Droits de RFA]
Gaudette, Adam [Droits de RFA]

Détails additionnels:

▐ [Formenton] Signs : 2yrs @ $1.5m Per
► 22-23yrs old, 6'2" Forward, w/ Elite bottom 6 Speed, Competes hard af, skilled, is physical, & will even stir the pot.

▐ [Gaudette] Signs : 1yr @ $800,k Per
► loved Gaudette, but has struggled, & could be a make or break yr.

OTT

Hållander, Filip
Heinen, Danton [Droits de RFA]

Détails additionnels:

▐ [Heiny] Signs : 3yrs @ $2.5m Per
► Loved Heiny as a middle 6 L/W here BUT could be a even better in [OTT] as a steady Top 6 L/Wer.

► [Hallander]- 2nd Rd C/LW Prospect, a do it all type Forward, that should be NHL ready this yr.

PIT

Frederic, Trent

Détails additionnels:

► [Frederic]- the Tough / Physical Forward Pens need BUT IMO, Frederic has more skill than shown.

BOS

McGinn, Brock

Détails additionnels:

► [McGinn]- Perfect bottom 6 Forward, can move all over line-up, & an Elite PK guy. Dont want to Trade BUT must get at least 1 Physical Forward.

PIT

Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (NSH)

Détails additionnels:

2022 - 1st Rdr (#17 Overall) [NSH]
Pens Select :
C/RW- Brad Lambert - {Finland}

** If Lambert Falls this far, The Pens must move up & take a chance.

NSH

Gruden, Jonathan
Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (PIT)
Choix de 5e ronde en 2022 (PIT)

Rachats de contrats

Jack Johnson: 1 916 667 $

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2022
2023
2024

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	82 500 000 $	80 284 342 $	0 $	0 $	2 215 658 $

Formation

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Guentzel, Jake 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 2	Crosby, Sidney 8 700 000 $8 700 000 $ C NMC UFA - 3	Rakell, Rickard 4 750 000 $4 750 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 6
Mikheyev, Ilya 3 400 000 $3 400 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 4	Malkin, Evgeni 6 500 000 $6 500 000 $ C UFA - 4	Rust, Bryan 5 125 000 $5 125 000 $ AD, AG NMC UFA - 6
Comtois, Maxime 2 037 500 $2 037 500 $ AG RFA - 1	Lundeström, Isac 1 900 000 $1 900 000 $ C, AG RFA - 2	Carter, Jeff 3 125 000 $3 125 000 $ AD, C NMC UFA - 2
Trenin, Yakov 1 750 000 $1 750 000 $ AG, C UFA - 2	Blueger, Teddy 2 200 000 $2 200 000 $ C, AG UFA - 1	Formenton, Alex 1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ AG RFA
	Frederic, Trent 1 050 000 $1 050 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Matheson, Michael 4 875 000 $4 875 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 4	Letang, Kris 7 580 000 $7 580 000 $ DD UFA - 6	Jarry, Tristan 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ G UFA - 1
Pettersson, Marcus 4 025 175 $4 025 175 $ DG UFA - 3	Marino, John 4 400 000 $4 400 000 $ DD UFA - 5
Välimäki, Juuso 1 550 000 $1 550 000 $ DG RFA - 1	Myers, Philippe 2 550 000 $2 550 000 $ DD UFA - 1	Comrie, Eric 1 750 000 $1 750 000 $ G UFA - 2
Beaulieu, Nathan 800 000 $800 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1	Ruhwedel, Chad 800 000 $800 000 $ DD UFA - 2

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
		Lambert, Brad 925 000 $925 000 $
		Poulin, Samuel 863 333 $863 333 $ C, AG RFA - 2
		Blomqvist, Joel 852 000 $852 000 $ G RFA
		Puustinen, Valtteri 842 500 $842 500 $ (82 500 $$82K) AD, AG UFA - 1
		Moore, Ian 811 000 $811 000 $ DD RFA
		Légaré, Nathan 789 167 $789 167 $ (132 500 $$132K) AD RFA - 2
		Broz, Tristan 852 000 $852 000 $ C RFA
		Bellerive, Jordy 750 000 $750 000 $ C UFA
		Svejkovsky, Lukas 859 167 $859 167 $ (82 500 $$82K) C RFA - 3
		Frasca, Jordan 859 167 $859 167 $ (82 500 $$82K) C RFA - 3
		Gauthier, Taylor 859 167 $859 167 $ (82 500 $$82K) G RFA - 3

Équipe de réserve
Gaudette, Adam 800 000 $800 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) C, AD UFA - 1
O'Connor, Drew 750 000 $750 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) AG UFA - 1
Nylander, Alexander 750 000 $750 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) AD, AG RFA - 1
True, Alex 775 000 $775 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) C, AD UFA - 1
Greer, AJ 750 000 $750 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) AD, AG UFA - 2
Björkqvist, Kasper 750 000 $750 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) AG RFA
Guhle, Brendan 750 000 $750 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) DG UFA
Niku, Sami 750 000 $750 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) DG/DD UFA
Juulsen, Noah 750 000 $750 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) DD UFA - 1
Kovacevic, Johnathan 750 000 $750 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) DD UFA - 3
Sandström, Felix 775 000 $775 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) G UFA - 2
Delia, Collin 750 000 $750 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) G UFA - 1

Unités spéciales

Avantage numérique 1
Rakell, R.		Guentzel, J.		Crosby, S.
	Letang, K.		Malkin, E.

Avantage numérique 2
Rust, B.		Comtois, M.		Mikheyev, I.
	Marino, J.		Matheson, M.

Infériorité numérique 1
	Letang, K.	Pettersson, M.
	Blueger, T.	Lundeström, I.

Infériorité numérique 2
	Marino, J.	Matheson, M.
	Carter, J.	Trenin, Y.

19 juin 2022 à 10 h 2

JustanIdea

Rejoint: mai 2022

Messages: 362

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Ottawa and Anaheim are surefire declines cause there isn't enough value going back to Anaheim to get ride of 4 propects that you said yourself have pretty good upside and Formenton is far more usefull to Ottawa than Heinen is. Especially because if Ottawa wanted Heinen they could have gotten him in free agency last offseason.

Overall really well though out but those Ottawa and Anaheim trades need work.

CHAR a aimé ceci.

19 juin 2022 à 10 h 11

emoprettyboy

Rejoint: févr. 2022

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Formenton value isn’t unreasonable on a surface level, but it just doesn’t really make sense for the Sens. they’ve been working on Formenton’s development for years now and he’s turning into a legit two-way threat who’s good on the PK. his next deal won’t be expensive, but the Sens aren’t interested in moving him unless it’s in a deal that blows their socks off, and this just isn’t that.
again, value from an outside perspective is reasonable, but the Sens just don’t do this

PLDGEY, JustanIdea et zizougaffar a aimé ceci.

19 juin 2022 à 11 h 21

Xspyrit

Rejoint: juill. 2016

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Formenton is an AUTO decline if Guentzel is not coming the other way

Forms could be part of the package to get Jake but even then I doubt it, they will dangle the 7th OA pick and several other valuable pieces instead

The only other players of interest for Forms would be Crosby, Rust and Marino (maybe Dumoulin but Forms wouldn't be involved)

Again, I don't think people have any idea of Formenton's value. He led the league in short handed goals as a 22 y/o rookie. All of his goals (18) and points (32) were at ES or PK

He might be the 2nd best skater in the world. He is easily worth a top-15 pick to Ottawa, maybe as high as Top-10 as some people told me (including a part time scout)

The offer is not truly terrible because Heinen is decent and Hallander is also a good prospect but this is an easy decline for Ottawa

TCMonkey et zizougaffar a aimé ceci.

19 juin 2022 à 11 h 33

Hullsy09

Rejoint: mai 2022

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Quoting: Xspyrit

"Formenton is an AUTO decline if Guentzel is not coming the other way" WTF?

19 juin 2022 à 11 h 37

Xspyrit

Rejoint: juill. 2016

Messages: 10,504

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Quoting: Hullsy09

"Formenton is an AUTO decline if Guentzel is not coming the other way" WTF?

Did you read... the rest of the post?

19 juin 2022 à 11 h 41

Hullsy09

Rejoint: mai 2022

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Mentions "j'aime": 1,090

Quoting: Xspyrit

Did you read... the rest of the post?

yes haha but that statement on its own is still so outrageous. I think you are overrating formenton regardless he's a great player but cmon do you think anaheim would trade 10 OA for alex formenton?

19 juin 2022 à 11 h 53

Xspyrit

Rejoint: juill. 2016

Messages: 10,504

Mentions "j'aime": 3,721

Quoting: Hullsy09

yes haha but that statement on its own is still so outrageous. I think you are overrating formenton regardless he's a great player but cmon do you think anaheim would trade 10 OA for alex formenton?

Yes but it's ridiculous to judge a statement "on its own" without the whole context/sentence... I mean, there could be a million examples where it becomes non-sensical or outrageous if you remove a part of the sentence.

Guentzel is absolutely the type of player the Sens need. IF the Pens were rebuilding, then he should be a target and if the Pens specifically targeted Formenton among all the other pieces, then he could be included in the package. The 7th OA pick would also be in that package

And for the record, I wouldn't trade Formenton for the 10th pick in this draft

I wouldn't be the only one

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19 juin 2022 à 12 h 1

Hullsy09

Rejoint: mai 2022

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Quoting: Xspyrit

You wouldn’t be the only one not to do that trade but everyone else standing with you would also be sens fans

19 juin 2022 à 12 h 2

Xspyrit

Rejoint: juill. 2016

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Quoting: Hullsy09

You wouldn’t be the only one not to do that trade but everyone else standing with you would also be sens fans

Nah, there's also hockey people, not just fans. Some people understand the kind of trajectory Formenton is on

Hockey is a LOT more than hockeydb, which you seem to be doing a lot

For the record, I don't care that much about what fans say in general. I listen I am curious but I am more interested by people in the know. And I have access to a lot of that

This draft is not good enough for me to gamble on finding a player at least as good with the 10th OA pick. I take the semi-certainty over the magic beans here.

19 juin 2022 à 12 h 21

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GeneralLandro

Rejoint: juin 2021

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Seems like a very poor return for Anaheim, plus why would we want to get older when we are rebuilding/deal solid young pieces?

19 juin 2022 à 14 h 25

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shmoeman

Rejoint: janv. 2019

Messages: 2,441

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bruins can't afford a bottom-6er making almost 3 mill

also can't see ottawa doing that deal

19 juin 2022 à 19 h 45

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TheMoose

Rejoint: juin 2016

Messages: 110

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Bravo on every point in the post! Especially ERod….no damn thank you! Bigger and tougher on D with guys that will make a hit and not just take hits. Same in the bottom 6. Going to be an interesting July we hope.

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