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Créé par: aldore
Équipe: 2022-23 Blues de St-Louis
Date de création initiale: 15 juin 2022
Publié: 16 juin 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
43 500 000 $
21 000 000 $
21 000 000 $
21 250 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
24 500 000 $
1750 000 $
21 250 000 $
Transactions
1.
STL
  1. Asplund, Rasmus
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (BUF)
BUF
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (STL)
2.
STL
  1. Puljujärvi, Jesse [Droits de RFA]
EDM
  1. Barbashev, Ivan
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (STL)
3.
STL
  1. Frost, Morgan [Droits de RFA]
  2. Sanheim, Travis
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (FLA)
PHI
  1. Tarasenko, Vladimir
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (BUF)
4.
STL
ARI
  1. Kostin, Klim [Droits de RFA]
  2. Scandella, Marco
  3. Choix de 6e ronde en 2022 (STL)
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2023
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Logo de STL
Logo de FLA
Logo de STL
Logo de STL
Logo de STL
2024
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $72 923 333 $1 100 000 $82 500 $9 576 667 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
5 800 000 $5 800 000 $
AG, AD, C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
2 800 000 $2 800 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
2 800 000 $2 800 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
1 875 000 $1 875 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
835 833 $835 833 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
AG, AD
RFA - 3
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
C, AG
NTC
UFA - 6
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
825 000 $825 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 1
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
C
RFA - 1
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
750 000 $750 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 5
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 5
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
G
NTC
UFA - 5
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
4 675 000 $4 675 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 8
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
750 000 $750 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
950 000 $950 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
762 500 $762 500 $
DG
UFA - 2

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16 juin 2022 à 1 h 1
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Someone who finally appreciates the Asp man. I wouldn't want them to move him, but this is good...
16 juin 2022 à 2 h 19
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I'm sorry, are you proposing to trade a 1st for a 4th liner?
16 juin 2022 à 2 h 37
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I'm sorry, are you proposing to trade a 1st for a 4th liner?


More of a 3rd liner with extremely good defensive upside and cost controlled. Its an overpay for sure, but thats about the only way the Sabres move him.
16 juin 2022 à 2 h 40
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More of a 3rd liner with extremely good defensive upside and cost controlled. Its an overpay for sure, but thats about the only way the Sabres move him.


He's a 4th liner on the Blues. They are not wasting a 1st on a 4th liner. They can get that for nothing.
16 juin 2022 à 2 h 42
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He's a 4th liner on the Blues. They are not wasting a 1st on a 4th liner. They can get that for nothing.


behind the rookie with 1 goal and 9 games played? probably not. He's a 3rd liner on this team too
16 juin 2022 à 3 h 2
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Sabres fan here

This is the thing…
Is Asplund worth a 1sr round pick?
No, he’s not. He’s a good (mostly) bottom6 forward who’s good defensively & can provide offense in spots
Frankly, you’re overpaying for him

***BUT***

At the same time, this is what it would take (imo) to get us to give him up
He’s cheap, and a player we like who plays a role we need


Bottom line though:
This isn’t a trade u guys should make- it’s an overpayment
U wouldn’t get him for a 2nd, but u shouldn’t pay a 1st
Idk if that makes sense?
But i think u should just look for another target
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16 juin 2022 à 3 h 4
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Quoting: mokumboi
He's a 4th liner on the Blues. They are not wasting a 1st on a 4th liner. They can get that for nothing.


He literally said you’d be overpaying for him
But like i said (and like he said), that’s the only way you’d get him- he’s valuable to us

No one- i repeat, NO ONE- is saying u should pay the price it would cost for him
16 juin 2022 à 3 h 38
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Quoting: Stadel
behind the rookie with 1 goal and 9 games played? probably not. He's a 3rd liner on this team too


No, he's also a 4th liner.
16 juin 2022 à 3 h 39
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Quoting: Buffalove
He literally said you’d be overpaying for him
But like i said (and like he said), that’s the only way you’d get him- he’s valuable to us

No one- i repeat, NO ONE- is saying u should pay the price it would cost for him


We're literally on an AGM where someone proposed exactly that.
16 juin 2022 à 3 h 46
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Quoting: mokumboi
We're literally on an AGM where someone proposed exactly that.


Proposing a trade on ACGM is absolutely not saying that Asplund is *worth* a 1st in REAL LIFE

**you do realize that none of us are actually GMs, right?!
16 juin 2022 à 8 h 33
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Asplund is barely worth a 2nd...
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16 juin 2022 à 10 h 10
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Vova needs to stay a blue for life. I don't hate the intention of the trade, but would prefer if Vova isn't part of it. If Philly is close to entering a full blown rebuild, then Barbie a mid-tier prospect and a bundle of mid-level picks SHOULD get it done for Sanheim. And, just exclude Frost.
16 juin 2022 à 12 h 30
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For everyone against trading all those players. You are then closing our window after next year. Selling Barby and vladdy gives us a little cap relief while staying competitive next season and the following seasons. Thomas, Kyrou, ROR, Tarasenko, and Barbashev all need contracts next off-season and we don’t have that much money. Might as well get cheap, depth pieces that allow us to stay contenders for this year and then resign the remaining big pieces and stay competitive for years to come. Or we can just full on rebuild I guess. Gonna be tough when vladdy, ROR, krug, Faulk, parayko, shenn, Binnington are all making 6+ million and are all 35+ years old. Will be terrible and have no cap freedom to help facilitate a rebuild. That will lead to 10+ years of mediocrity and that’s not a fun spot to be
16 juin 2022 à 13 h 11
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St. Louis only needed to give up a second and Blais for Buchnevich.
Even presuming Rasmus could bring his abilities from the IIHF to the NHL I do not see how anyone could turn down the 18th OA pick in this draft for him.
16 juin 2022 à 15 h 44
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But fine, it’s an overpayment. Draft whoever you want with the 23rd pick. And put Logan brown as 4th line LW. Still think it’s an improved team that’s better set up for the future. Or keep the first in that trade and get asp and their latest second back. Or a 2023 second. I think having a cost-controlled incredible defensive depth piece would be huge for us. Definitely a need. The all offense thing isn’t gonna win us the cup. Gotta get through Colorado these next few seasons and the current team isn’t going to be able to do that.
 
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