You can’t afford the extension unless u trade Marner or Tavares somehow

Muzzin to LA trades...

In all sincerity...this is arguably the same as what Hagel got.

That Kings trade is a joke right?

This has got to be the worst muzzin trades out of the 100s we’ve see.

Also leafs aren’t getting Debrincat

True, someone would need to be moved, maybe even debrincat.

I don't know, there are some pretty bad ones. Take out the two prospects and I think it's fair value wise. Maybe leafs take back a contract kings don't have use for to keep the contracts in/out squared away.

I literally said in the description, Muzzin/Kerfoot to LA is just cuz it's everywhere on this site. I just had to move them out for cap space, and couldn't take back anyone who'd be on the NHL roster. Could've done it for nothing, but I like Faber/Helenius and while I think the organization is high on Faber, Helenius is a 6'6" defensive center who still hasn't shown offensive upside at all, and LA doesn't really need more fringe centers so he actually would be realistic in an LA/TOR trade involving roster vs prospect. Faber was just cuz I like him. Also people really seem to have vitriol for it, so I admit adding in the 2nd too was a bit of trolling.

Debrincat is currently 6.4M, cap goes up 1M a season. Let's say he gets 9.5M extension, that's 1M coming out of cap moving up, still gotta find 2M. Carry a 20 man roster instead of 23, and you free up about 2.2M. That's doable but rough for the 2023-2024 year.

In terms of the Hagel thing, yeah that trade was crazy expensive for tampa, and it was becasue tampa is in a worse cap situation than Toronto and guaranteed a forward at 1.545M for 3 playoff runs. This is 1 year guaranteed then 9.5-10M. He'd get more in my opinion than this, I used Hirvonen and Niemela as examples, could add in more picks as i said, could add in more prospects, frankly any prospects/picks outside of Robertson/Knies as we just need them to step in immediately (I basically count them as roster spots in the playoffs in 2022-2023 already), so if its 3 firsts, a second, Niemela, Hirvonen, abbruzzesse and someone then you do that. This is clearly a win now move, with potential to work long term if you can make the caphits stay steady outside of Debrincat, which is why everyone i signed is basically 3 year deals to get to the anticipated 2025 cap jump.

Do I think they’ll get Holtz and 2nd overall for him ? Absolutely not. Do I think they’ll get one of those pieces plus secondary prospects and cap fillers / roster players? Yes for sure.

Trolling is adding in faber.

Also helenius is 19 years old and had just a 12 game sample size in the AHL scoring 1 point on North American ice

Fair, and I like Helenius, but 1 point in 12 AHL games at 19 as a forward is kinda bad. Obviously he's never gonna be an offensive star, for reference Nylander had 45 points in 38 games at 19 in the AHL, but for an import for example, 20 year old 2nd round pick Vasili Ponomarev had 10 points in 11 AHL games to finish the season coming over from Europe, or the leafs brought over 19 year old Dmitri Ovchinnikov who is 5'9" and played 4th line minutes only, with two grinders to ease him into north American hockey, he still had 2 goals in 5 games.