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Whats the cost of these guys

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Équipe: 2022-23 Devils du New Jersey
Date de création initiale: 6 mai 2022
Publié: 6 mai 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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  1. Strome, Dylan [Droits de RFA]
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  1. Crouse, Lawson [Droits de RFA]
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  1. Kunin, Luke [Droits de RFA]
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
1782 500 000 $60 540 833 $0 $800 000 $21 959 167 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
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7 250 000 $7 250 000 $
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825 000 $825 000 $
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UFA - 1
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
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UFA - 1
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975 000 $975 000 $
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
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8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
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UFA - 8
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1 825 000 $1 825 000 $
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UFA - 1
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
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RFA - 2
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1 125 000 $1 125 000 $
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2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
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3 166 667 $3 166 667 $
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UFA - 1
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9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
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2 800 000 $2 800 000 $
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1 125 000 $1 125 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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4 166 666 $4 166 666 $
DD
UFA - 1
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
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4 125 000 $4 125 000 $
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6 mai 2022 à 9 h 29
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I wouldn’t give up anything for Kunin and Barbashev and would only want Crouse in a steal (have a feeling I might be disappointed on this one)

Ross Colton would be a great pickup for us
6 mai 2022 à 9 h 41
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Blues would want a LD who can play a shutdown role for them. It would likely be some sort of package deal but it would centered around Graves or Siegenthaler as part of the return. Assuming Miles Wood is healthy, I would take a flyer on him. If the Devils have interest in taking on Scandella, we could make something work.
6 mai 2022 à 9 h 47
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I'd gladly accept a bag of pucks for Kunin right now.
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6 mai 2022 à 10 h 24
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The Blues would almost certainly ask for Graves.
6 mai 2022 à 11 h 1
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Strome- is the 1c in Chicago and is centering their only offensive line with Kane and Cat, my gut says those three stick together in Chicago.

Crouse - if I remember correctly Arizona said they wanted a 1st+ roster player for him at the deadline.

Kunin - I’m guessing his value is about a 3rd but idk if Nashville would even trade him with so much uncertainty around their forwards next year, specifically forsberg.

Barbachev - I see Bluse fans asking for Graves, which makes sense to me.

Colton - seeing that Tampa is still in cap trouble, I doubt they move Colton unless they get a middle 6 player on a lower contract than his 1.125, Remember this is also the team that sent 2 1st round picks for Hagel who is on a 1.5x3 contract, because they are in cap trouble. Might almost be better off waiting to sign him as a UFA when he priced himself out of Tampa after next offseason.
6 mai 2022 à 12 h 1
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Strome- is the 1c in Chicago and is centering their only offensive line with Kane and Cat, my gut says those three stick together in Chicago.

Crouse - if I remember correctly Arizona said they wanted a 1st+ roster player for him at the deadline.

Kunin - I’m guessing his value is about a 3rd but idk if Nashville would even trade him with so much uncertainty around their forwards next year, specifically forsberg.

Barbachev - I see Bluse fans asking for Graves, which makes sense to me.

Colton - seeing that Tampa is still in cap trouble, I doubt they move Colton unless they get a middle 6 player on a lower contract than his 1.125, Remember this is also the team that sent 2 1st round picks for Hagel who is on a 1.5x3 contract, because they are in cap trouble. Might almost be better off waiting to sign him as a UFA when he priced himself out of Tampa after next offseason.


Strome, Kunin, Colton - sounds about what I expected. Last year was the time to buy Strome.
Crouse - seems a bit high
Barbashev - timing may just be off for Graves. Our kids may need another year.
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6 mai 2022 à 12 h 3
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I'd gladly accept a bag of pucks for Kunin right now.


Sold!
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6 mai 2022 à 12 h 3
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I wouldn’t give up anything for Kunin and Barbashev and would only want Crouse in a steal (have a feeling I might be disappointed on this one)

Ross Colton would be a great pickup for us


Why not? Good players.
6 mai 2022 à 12 h 4
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Why not? Good players.


I do not think they’re good at all. I wish I could easily post pictures!
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6 mai 2022 à 12 h 8
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Sold!


Get him off our roster before game 3, and we'll forego the pucks. An empty bag will suffice.
6 mai 2022 à 12 h 46
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I do not think they’re good at all. I wish I could easily post pictures!


Pictures? Of whom?
6 mai 2022 à 12 h 47
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Get him off our roster before game 3, and we'll forego the pucks. An empty bag will suffice.


An empty bag it is!!

(Pavel, false alarm...unpack your stuff, but leave the bag)
6 mai 2022 à 12 h 50
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Pictures? Of whom?


charts, graphs, and tables.

Hockey is, of course, played on a spreadsheet.

On the real though Barbashev and Kunin have some of the worst RAPM numbers in the league and Crouse is...mid.

Ross Colton tho 👀
6 mai 2022 à 13 h 1
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charts, graphs, and tables.

Hockey is, of course, played on a spreadsheet.

On the real though Barbashev and Kunin have some of the worst RAPM numbers in the league and Crouse is...mid.

Ross Colton tho 👀


But that creates a market.
If you want to buy low, find guys that don't have great stats...but are good players.
If you want to buy high, just find the guys with good stats.
6 mai 2022 à 13 h 42
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But that creates a market.
If you want to buy low, find guys that don't have great stats...but are good players.
If you want to buy high, just find the guys with good stats.


The market inefficiency is finding guys with good underlying stats - or good microstats - without the production and buy low on them

Crouse îs the only one of these 3 who could potentially fit that description.

Barbashev is actually the opposite because he has some on-ice luck this year to the tune of a 13.8 oiSH% and a 23.42 sh%

Puljujarvi, Tolvanen, Colton, Mangiapane (insane on-ice impacts despite the scoring slump to end the year), Bear, Rielly, Carrier, Zadina, Roy
These are all players I think you can take advantage of this market efficiency with.
6 mai 2022 à 15 h 13
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The market inefficiency is finding guys with good underlying stats - or good microstats - without the production and buy low on them

Crouse îs the only one of these 3 who could potentially fit that description.

Barbashev is actually the opposite because he has some on-ice luck this year to the tune of a 13.8 oiSH% and a 23.42 sh%

Puljujarvi, Tolvanen, Colton, Mangiapane (insane on-ice impacts despite the scoring slump to end the year), Bear, Rielly, Carrier, Zadina, Roy
These are all players I think you can take advantage of this market efficiency with.


All buyers and sellers have the same stats. And same micro-stats. Very little profit to be gained from trading on those stats alone.
6 mai 2022 à 15 h 20
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All buyers and sellers have the same stats. And same micro-stats. Very little profit to be gained from trading on those stats alone.


I mean, that's not really true, right? The Flyers have the same stats the rest of us all have about Ristolainen and they still traded - and extended! - him and he's been as awful as all the "nerds" say he is! The Oilers have a shell of an analytics department.

There's smoke about half these players I just mentioned, regardless.

and regarding trading on these stats alone, well, I'm not. There's quite a lot of stats out there you can use. I subscribe to a lot of the sites! Looking at microstats too, there's just not a lot to like about Kunin and Barbashev.
 
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