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Trying to figure out what Kevin Weekes would pay for Jesper Bratt as Sharks GM

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Équipe: 2022-23 Sharks de San Jose
Date de création initiale: 23 avr. 2022
Publié: 23 avr. 2022
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I hear there are rumours circulating that the Sharks are looking at hiring Kevin Weekes as their next GM.
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23 avr. 2022 à 12 h 42
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I don't think NJ accepts that.
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23 avr. 2022 à 12 h 45
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What does Bratt have anything to do with Kevin Weekes being their GM?

That doesn't get Bratt.
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23 avr. 2022 à 12 h 51
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NJ declines the trade easily and Bratt declines the contract
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23 avr. 2022 à 12 h 54
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Bratt is untouchable for the Devils. This offer wouldn't get him
23 avr. 2022 à 12 h 56
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I don't have any strong feelings about Kevin Weekes, but I think he's just one of those guys whose name is kicked around every time a GM Job opens up. In the same vein as Mike Futa or Pierre McGuire. If he ever gets hired by a team I doubt it's for the big job.
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23 avr. 2022 à 13 h 4
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Would have to be Eklund+...no reason for Devils not to expect some of your best assets in return.
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23 avr. 2022 à 13 h 26
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The Sharks aren't giving up either their 2022 or 2023 1sts, that's already been made VERY clear from the front office, and I don't think a new GM is going to change that.

And frankly, this trade would make it impossible to give Timo Meier a new contract, and that's a non-starter.
23 avr. 2022 à 13 h 35
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Quoting: justaBoss
I don't think NJ accepts that.


1. What do you think New Jersey's asking price on Bratt would be from the Sharks?


2. What do you think Kevin Weekes would be willing to pay if he were Sharks GM?
23 avr. 2022 à 13 h 38
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wait for Meier to the NJD for a 1st a 2nd and Holts is unreasonable but a 1st a top D prospect and a middle 6 for jasper brett is an underpayment!
it’s almost like you guys are overvaluing your own and undervaluing everyone else’s.
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23 avr. 2022 à 13 h 41
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Quoting: MellowK
What does Bratt have anything to do with Kevin Weekes being their GM?

That doesn't get Bratt.


1. In this post, I included a link where Kevin Weekes lavished Jesper Bratt with praise on twitter recently.

Can you spot it?

If Weekes becomes the next Sharks' GM, he might try to trade for Bratt.



2. What is your asking price on Bratt?
23 avr. 2022 à 13 h 44
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Quoting: Wadejos123
NJ declines the trade easily and Bratt declines the contract


1. What would your asking price be from the Sharks if you were the Devils GM?


2. If Bratt gets a Timo Meier-like qualifying offer at the end of the contract, he might accept it.
23 avr. 2022 à 13 h 45
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Quoting: Devil
Bratt is untouchable for the Devils. This offer wouldn't get him


Who else is untouchable?
23 avr. 2022 à 13 h 47
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
wait for Meier to the NJD for a 1st a 2nd and Holts is unreasonable but a 1st a top D prospect and a middle 6 for jasper brett is an underpayment!
it’s almost like you guys are overvaluing your own and undervaluing everyone else’s.


Okay. So with a long term extension included on Meier, you'd be okay with trading Meier for our 2023 first, Tatar and Walsh? I'd do that. That's the equivalent to this trade.
23 avr. 2022 à 13 h 51
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Who else is untouchable?


From the active roster: Hughes, Hischier, Hamilton
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23 avr. 2022 à 13 h 52
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Okay. So with a long term extension included on Meier, you'd be okay with trading Meier for our 2023 first, Tatar and Walsh? I'd do that. That's the equivalent to this trade.

that’s an interesting deal. but no.
and i wasn’t the one proposing this deal i’m just arguing that you guys are undervaluing other teams and over value int your own and not making fair delas
23 avr. 2022 à 13 h 52
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Quoting: bunnymcfoo
The Sharks aren't giving up either their 2022 or 2023 1sts, that's already been made VERY clear from the front office, and I don't think a new GM is going to change that.

And frankly, this trade would make it impossible to give Timo Meier a new contract, and that's a non-starter.


1. That was made "very clear" when Doug Wilson was running the front office and he's not anymore.

Whenever a team hires a new GM, they often take the team in a different direction.



2. Timo Meier's qualifying offer is 10 million dollars.

That also makes it impossible to give him a new contract.

Whether the trade for Bratt is a non-starter doesn't make any difference.
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
wait for Meier to the NJD for a 1st a 2nd and Holts is unreasonable but a 1st a top D prospect and a middle 6 for jasper brett is an underpayment!
it’s almost like you guys are overvaluing your own and undervaluing everyone else’s.


Holtz>Merkely
Devils first>Sharks first

Not sure what you are talking about
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23 avr. 2022 à 13 h 55
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
that’s an interesting deal. but no.
and i wasn’t the one proposing this deal i’m just arguing that you guys are undervaluing other teams and over value int your own and not making fair delas


No, it just doesn't make sense for the Devils to trade big assets for Meier. He should go to a contender that can utilize his current cap hit before becoming a UFA.
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23 avr. 2022 à 13 h 57
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Quoting: benkel
1. What do you think New Jersey's asking price on Bratt would be from the Sharks?

2. What do you think Kevin Weekes would be willing to pay if he were Sharks GM?


1. Would have to be a very hefty sum because frankly NJ has no reason whatsoever to move Bratt. I can see NJ asking for Eklund+this year's 1st but I know SJ won't accept that - nor they should.

2. I can't answer this question because I would have no way to know how Weekes would evaluate his players. And frankly it doesn't add much to the discussion.
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23 avr. 2022 à 14 h 6
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No, it just doesn't make sense for the Devils to trade big assets for Meier. He should go to a contender that can utilize his current cap hit before becoming a UFA.

Meier is they type of player teams cover though, big fast strong highly skilled and young. those are rarely if ever available.
Brat is smaller and while he has been a solid player this is his first breakout year and there is no telling if he regresses next year or continues, my money is on him being about a .68-.78 ppg player next year. while Meier i can see being anywhere from a .72-1.12 ppg player depending on where he plays and if the team he is on has more than 1 decent line.
and this is in no way bashing Bratt .68 ppg is still a solid top 6 guy and coveted in the nhl and worthy of a 1st and a good prospect or two, but ppg players are usually 2 1sts and a prospect. but there is a difference in a 55-65 point per season guy and a 78-90 point guys and it’s a lot
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
Meier is they type of player teams cover though, big fast strong highly skilled and young. those are rarely if ever available.
Brat is smaller and while he has been a solid player this is his first breakout year and there is no telling if he regresses next year or continues, my money is on him being about a .68-.78 ppg player next year. while Meier i can see being anywhere from a .72-1.12 ppg player depending on where he plays and if the team he is on has more than 1 decent line.
and this is in no way bashing Bratt .68 ppg is still a solid top 6 guy and coveted in the nhl and worthy of a 1st and a good prospect or two, but ppg players are usually 2 1sts and a prospect. but there is a difference in a 55-65 point per season guy and a 78-90 point guys and it’s a lot


We're talking about who wingers who broke out this season... For some reason Bratt will regress, but Meier won't because... well "Favourite Team: San Jose Sharks".

Agree to disagree.
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23 avr. 2022 à 15 h 3
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Quoting: benkel
1. That was made "very clear" when Doug Wilson was running the front office and he's not anymore.

Whenever a team hires a new GM, they often take the team in a different direction.



2. Timo Meier's qualifying offer is 10 million dollars.

That also makes it impossible to give him a new contract.

Whether the trade for Bratt is a non-starter doesn't make any difference.


So yes, the new GM will be coming in and putting his own stamp on the team, that's a given. That said, Jonathan Becher has made it very clear that the selection process includes the requirement that the selected candidate will have to be on board with the overall plan of re-set, not rebuild. That's from the team owner, and Hasso has always prioritized winning - I don't think that's changed, and I don't think that redacting their, again, very clear statement about the value of those two picks is going to happen. Also, just for the record, Doug Wilson hasn't been running the front office for five months now, and that was still the rule handed down from on high.


As for Meier's next contract, I wouldn't be surprised to see him extended before the QO kicks in for under $10 million, but even if he isn't willing to do that, buying out Vlasic would solve that particular problem.


On top of all of that, the Sharks are still high on Merkley - he's shown flashes of brilliance this year, and with Burns coming off the books in a couple of years, we're going to need him. He's not going anywhere.
23 avr. 2022 à 15 h 54
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
wait for Meier to the NJD for a 1st a 2nd and Holts is unreasonable but a 1st a top D prospect and a middle 6 for jasper brett is an underpayment!
it’s almost like you guys are overvaluing your own and undervaluing everyone else’s.


For me it's that Meier commands a 10 million QO. Thus I wouldn't want the Devils to go anywhere near him, no matter how well he's playing.
As for Meier's level of play, seems to me it's about as good as Bratt's. Similar PPG, both have great possession metrics, Bratt's advanced stats are fantastic and I expect Meier's to be good as well. While they are different types of forwards, they should be close to equal in overall talent.
Also, Bratt's two years younger meaning he likely has more room to grow compared to Meier.

But yeah, it's Eklund and unprotected 2022 or 2023 1st if Sharks wants to have a sniff at acquiring Bratt.
23 avr. 2022 à 16 h 8
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For me it's that Meier commands a 10 million QO. Thus I wouldn't want the Devils to go anywhere near him, no matter how well he's playing.
As for Meier's level of play, seems to me it's about as good as Bratt's. Similar PPG, both have great possession metrics, Bratt's advanced stats are fantastic and I expect Meier's to be good as well. While they are different types of forwards, they should be close to equal in overall talent.
Also, Bratt's two years younger meaning he likely has more room to grow compared to Meier.

But yeah, it's Eklund and unprotected 2022 or 2023 1st if Sharks wants to have a sniff at acquiring Bratt.


WTF Eklund is a far superior talent and prospect, it would be Bratt and your 22 1st for Eklund. which i know you would never do but that’s Eklunds value to us.
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23 avr. 2022 à 16 h 37
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Quoting: benkel
1. What would your asking price be from the Sharks if you were the Devils GM?


2. If Bratt gets a Timo Meier-like qualifying offer at the end of the contract, he might accept it.


Don't think Bratt is available. I mean hypothetically Devils would be asking for Eklund+ probably and sharks aern't doing that either.
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