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Winger with Hughes

Créé par: Icedragon4405
Équipe: 2021-22 Devils du New Jersey
Date de création initiale: 8 avr. 2022
Publié: 8 avr. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Hughes is great but he has 2 big flaws. He is doing stupid stuff, like trying to skate between 4 players and the coach is not holding him accountable, so new coach. The other thing is he is fragile, he needs to play with a winger that can score but is also big and physical, he needs to play with a Tkachuk, wilson, type player. How viable are these options? Devils Fans, what are your thoughts on these guys? Fans of these teams, what are the prices of these guys
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CGY
    Probably a long shot, flames would ask most likely for more than the devils should give up.
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    ARI
      Very possible option, Arizona would probably be open to moving him and NJ could probably get him and not have to give up too much
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      SJS
        Depends on the price
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        TBL
          Not as exciting but still a viable option. Will be hard to pry him away from tampa
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          LAK
            Very solid option what would the price be.
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            8 avr. 2022 à 10 h 33
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            The price for TImo? He isn't available.
            If he we're, it starts with Holtz ++
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            8 avr. 2022 à 10 h 34
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            Just sign marchment
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            8 avr. 2022 à 10 h 35
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            Crouse is the most appealing player on the list. Tkachuk and Meier will both be very expensive and have messy contract situations.

            Although I don't think Crouse would be much of an upgrade over Shango/Mercer other than his physicality.

            Fiala should be on this list too.
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            8 avr. 2022 à 10 h 42
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            Quoting: MellowK
            Crouse is the most appealing player on the list. Tkachuk and Meier will both be very expensive and have messy contract situations.

            Although I don't think Crouse would be much of an upgrade over Shango/Mercer other than his physicality.

            Fiala should be on this list too.


            That’s the thing, I am looking for the skill plus the physicality
            8 avr. 2022 à 11 h 45
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            Tkachuk will cost you either Hughes or Hischier so no point asking at all
            8 avr. 2022 à 12 h 30
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            Hughes isn’t held accountable for his skill plays gone wrong because he was on a 94points/82 pace and top 50 in the league in WAR. These takes make me want to rip my hair out.
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            8 avr. 2022 à 12 h 46
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            Quoting: Krxvtsovv
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            Also grab one of the UFA wingers from Colo, both big boys! I think this group of guys would help a ton. There is enough skill there to make this team tougher to play against!
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            8 avr. 2022 à 12 h 48
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            Quoting: HeadHighSauce
            Hughes isn’t held accountable for his skill plays gone wrong because he was on a 94points/82 pace and top 50 in the league in WAR. These takes make me want to rip my hair out.


            His creativity with passing to guys not as talented is tough to watch sometime. Jack thinks his wingers re thinking at his level. Its made for a bunch of bad turnovers and goals!
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            8 avr. 2022 à 13 h 40
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            As mentioned Chucky will be abhorrently expensive. Buddys got a pretty good chance at 40g/100pts this year and he plays a sandpaper game.

            If flames contract negotiations get messy Mangiapane could be a more realistic target. Sitting at 30g, hardworking and defensively sound.
            No idea at the price. 1st+prospect probably a good template though.
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            8 avr. 2022 à 13 h 51
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            Arizona views crouse as part of the core. It would take an overpayment to get him. Word was a 1st and a top prospect at the deadline
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            8 avr. 2022 à 14 h 8
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            Quoting: Smitty426
            His creativity with passing to guys not as talented is tough to watch sometime. Jack thinks his wingers re thinking at his level. Its made for a bunch of bad turnovers and goals!


            Yeah but you don't stop him from doing that! You live with the warts because it's what makes him so special.
            8 avr. 2022 à 14 h 12
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            Quoting: Traptor
            As mentioned Chucky will be abhorrently expensive. Buddys got a pretty good chance at 40g/100pts this year and he plays a sandpaper game.

            If flames contract negotiations get messy Mangiapane could be a more realistic target. Sitting at 30g, hardworking and defensively sound.
            No idea at the price. 1st+prospect probably a good template though.

            Doesn't he have like, 1 goal since March 3rd or whatever? How much of his 30 goals is an unsustainable shooting percentage followed by a regression to the mean? I like his underlyings but 30g 17a is a weird statline.
            8 avr. 2022 à 14 h 27
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            Quoting: HeadHighSauce
            Doesn't he have like, 1 goal since March 3rd or whatever? How much of his 30 goals is an unsustainable shooting percentage followed by a regression to the mean? I like his underlyings but 30g 17a is a weird statline.


            Yeah, he's in a bit of a skid. 4 points over the last 15 games. His shooting percentage is normalizing a bit but I don't think it will be drastic. It's already down from last year so I think it's maintainable where it's at.
            He's still getting lots of looks and his underlying are consistently solid. He also only plays PP 2.

            He is an interesting player. I would say he drives play but isn't a playmaker. He likes to carry it in from the neutral zone, drive the net and shoot. Good skater, good at possession and good release. Passing isn't bad but isn't a strength.

            He is also a really hard worker. He battles for every puck and seems to be the first man to alot of pucks.
            8 avr. 2022 à 14 h 49
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            Quoting: Traptor
            Yeah, he's in a bit of a skid. 4 points over the last 15 games. His shooting percentage is normalizing a bit but I don't think it will be drastic. It's already down from last year so I think it's maintainable where it's at.
            He's still getting lots of looks and his underlying are consistently solid. He also only plays PP 2.

            He is an interesting player. I would say he drives play but isn't a playmaker. He likes to carry it in from the neutral zone, drive the net and shoot. Good skater, good at possession and good release. Passing isn't bad but isn't a strength.

            He is also a really hard worker. He battles for every puck and seems to be the first man to alot of pucks.


            I like him. Idk that I'd pay a first and good prospect for him, but I do like him. Maybe NJD2 (#36) and then something like Walsh or Foote depending on team need?
            8 avr. 2022 à 16 h 21
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            Quoting: HeadHighSauce
            I like him. Idk that I'd pay a first and good prospect for him, but I do like him. Maybe NJD2 (#36) and then something like Walsh or Foote depending on team need?


            This package is comparable to what the flames got for Bennett and Mang is worth quite a tick more than Bennett was at that time. Bennett had 4g,12pts/38gp the season he was traded, substantially worse metrics and a career-high of 18g, 36pts/77gp from his first season.

            Safe to say Mang has quite a bit more value.

            Assuming some of the top young guys on NJD are off limits (holtz, hughes bros, mercer), I would be looking at something around Gritsyuk + Zacha
            8 avr. 2022 à 16 h 46
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            Quoting: Traptor
            This package is comparable to what the flames got for Bennett and Mang is worth quite a tick more than Bennett was at that time. Bennett had 4g,12pts/38gp the season he was traded, substantially worse metrics and a career-high of 18g, 36pts/77gp from his first season.

            Safe to say Mang has quite a bit more value.

            Assuming some of the top young guys on NJD are off limits (holtz, hughes bros, mercer), I would be looking at something around Gritsyuk + Zacha


            That could probably work. Though, depending on your cap situation I wouldn't be shocked if it's cheaper. But yeah I'm confident Tom is at least negotiating at this starting point.
            8 avr. 2022 à 17 h 33
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            Quoting: HeadHighSauce
            Yeah but you don't stop him from doing that! You live with the warts because it's what makes him so special.


            No you don’t stop him from doing it you teach him when to do it and when not to
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            8 avr. 2022 à 18 h 4
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            Quoting: HeadHighSauce
            Yeah but you don't stop him from doing that! You live with the warts because it's what makes him so special.


            Yeah i know, tuff though
             
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