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Créé par: akoeppel08
Équipe: 2021-22 Avalanche du Colorado
Date de création initiale: 23 mars 2022
Publié: 23 mars 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Apparently post-deadline trades are a thing: https://theathletic.com/3201666/2022/03/22/evgenii-dadonov-trade-golden-knights-ducks-dispute/ .

The Avs wouldn't be able to use him in the playoffs this year... but they could get a decent middle 6 player at a 2.5M cap hit for free to use next year.

Ducks would do this bc a) they retain less salary and b) Avs are likely not on Dadonov's 10-team no-trade list so they still get their pick. Vegas does this bc they're desperate and don't have to give up a 1st rounder to shed Dadonov's salary this way.
Transactions
1.
COL
  1. Dadonov, Evgeni (2 500 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (VGK)
Détails additionnels:
Salary Retained by Anaheim
VGK
    Future Considerations
    2.
    COL
      Dadonov Salary Retained
      ANA
      1. Helm, Darren
      2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (VGK)
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      2022
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      2023
      Logo de COL
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      2024
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      TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
      2381 500 000 $78 943 963 $1 741 463 $3 350 000 $2 556 037 $
      Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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      7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
      AG, C
      NMC
      UFA - 8
      Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
      6 300 000 $6 300 000 $
      C
      M-NTC
      UFA - 2
      Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
      9 250 000 $9 250 000 $
      AD, C
      UFA - 4
      Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
      4 900 000 $4 900 000 $
      AD, AG
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
      4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
      C
      M-NTC
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
      2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
      AD, AG
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
      908 333 $908 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
      C, AG
      RFA - 2
      Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
      3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
      C, AD
      UFA - 2
      Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
      1 150 000 $1 150 000 $
      AG, AD
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
      725 000 $725 000 $
      C
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
      725 000 $725 000 $
      AD, AG
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
      500 000 $500 000 $
      AG
      UFA - 1
      Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
      Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
      4 100 000 $4 100 000 $
      DG
      UFA - 3
      Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
      9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
      DD
      UFA - 6
      Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
      3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
      G
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
      5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
      DG/DD
      UFA - 6
      Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
      2 050 000 $2 050 000 $
      DD
      M-NTC
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
      2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
      G
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
      894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
      DG/DD
      RFA - 2
      Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
      6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
      DD
      M-NTC, NMC
      UFA - 2
      Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
      Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
      1 075 000 $1 075 000 $
      AD
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
      0 $0 $
      AD, AG
      M-NTC
      UFA - 2
      Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
      2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
      DG
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
      875 000 $875 000 $
      DG/DD, AG
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
      750 000 $750 000 $
      DG
      UFA - 1

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      23 mars 2022 à 12 h 24
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      IamAlwaysRight
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      I personally think Vegas should be stuck with him for all their deviousness.
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      23 mars 2022 à 12 h 51
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      Players traded post deadline are ineligible to play for rest of the regular season and playoffs. If VGK trades Dadonov and forces him not to play another game this season the NHLPA will file all kinds of complaints against VGK.
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      23 mars 2022 à 13 h 3
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      Quoting: Jah1722
      Players traded post deadline are ineligible to play for rest of the regular season and playoffs. If VGK trades Dadonov and forces him not to play another game this season the NHLPA will file all kinds of complaints against VGK.


      As long as he's traded to a team who isn't on his no trade list I don't see how Dadonov/NHLPA would have a case. It's a dick move by VGK but he doesn't have full trade protection so how would he fight it? It's within the rules as far as I know
      23 mars 2022 à 13 h 26
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      There are NHL bylaws which predate the CBA.
      Many of those bylaws have been incorporated into the CBA over time, with changes/updates as part of negotiations.
      Some bylaws remain in affect in addition to the CBA. The relevant bylaw which prevents players traded post deadline from further league participation in that year, is still in effect as originally ratified.
      (See Allan Walsh twitter thread where this was more or less confirmed. Though no official public source is readily available.)

      That bylaw prevents any player moving from one club's reserve list to another, after the deadline, from participating in any regular OR playoff games for the remainder of the season.
      (Note, UFA's signed past the deadline are eligible for regular season, but not playoffs, as they were not on another club's reserve list after the deadline.)

      Players CAN be traded, but that means the end of their season. This is why we normally only see non-playoff teams making trades once the playoffs begin.
      Teams normally aren't going to trade players and end their seasons early, or trade for players that they can't play.

      Quoting: Jah1722
      Players traded post deadline are ineligible to play for rest of the regular season and playoffs. If VGK trades Dadonov and forces him not to play another game this season the NHLPA will file all kinds of complaints against VGK.


      Dadonov and the NHLPA will have no grounds for a complaint if the trade is nullified and Dadonov is moved elsewhere or waived. It's a legitimate option for Vegas and not relevant to the original trade.

      I'd like to see Dadonov granted a contract termination at full value (Vegas pays his remaining salary) and classified as a free agent, making him eligible to sign with any team to finish the regular season, though he'd still be ineligible for playoffs.
      Whoever is determined responsible will then be penalized with pick forfeiture and fines, and on the hook for the salary paid out to Dadonov for his termination.
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      23 mars 2022 à 14 h 25
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      Quoting: ricochetii
      There are NHL bylaws which predate the CBA.
      Many of those bylaws have been incorporated into the CBA over time, with changes/updates as part of negotiations.
      Some bylaws remain in affect in addition to the CBA. The relevant bylaw which prevents players traded post deadline from further league participation in that year, is still in effect as originally ratified.
      (See Allan Walsh twitter thread where this was more or less confirmed. Though no official public source is readily available.)

      That bylaw prevents any player moving from one club's reserve list to another, after the deadline, from participating in any regular OR playoff games for the remainder of the season.
      (Note, UFA's signed past the deadline are eligible for regular season, but not playoffs, as they were not on another club's reserve list after the deadline.)

      Players CAN be traded, but that means the end of their season. This is why we normally only see non-playoff teams making trades once the playoffs begin.
      Teams normally aren't going to trade players and end their seasons early, or trade for players that they can't play.



      Dadonov and the NHLPA will have no grounds for a complaint if the trade is nullified and Dadonov is moved elsewhere or waived. It's a legitimate option for Vegas and not relevant to the original trade.

      I'd like to see Dadonov granted a contract termination at full value (Vegas pays his remaining salary) and classified as a free agent, making him eligible to sign with any team to finish the regular season, though he'd still be ineligible for playoffs.
      Whoever is determined responsible will then be penalized with pick forfeiture and fines, and on the hook for the salary paid out to Dadonov for his termination.


      Yes they will. VGK forcing a player to no longer participate in the season because of their own screw up will have major consequences. The NHLPA would file numerous complaints against VGK. It would not be pretty for the Knights in the public view or among players I’d imagine.
      23 mars 2022 à 14 h 28
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      Quoting: UpsideDownQue
      As long as he's traded to a team who isn't on his no trade list I don't see how Dadonov/NHLPA would have a case. It's a dick move by VGK but he doesn't have full trade protection so how would he fight it? It's within the rules as far as I know


      The NHLPA would stick up for its player. It’ll get ugly.
      23 mars 2022 à 15 h 43
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      Aside from the potential NHLPA grievances. I don't see why Colorado would help Vegas out. Vegas is on the outside of the playoffs looking in but if they get in and are healthy to start the playoffs then they are a completely different team. Just doesn't make sense for Colorado to help Vegas increase their chances of making the playoffs.
       
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