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If the Panthers knew that Giroux would only waive his NMC for Florida

Créé par: sensonfire
Équipe: 2021-22 Panthers de la Floride
Date de création initiale: 20 mars 2022
Publié: 20 mars 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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FLA
    This was the original trade.


    Giroux
    Rubstov
    Bunnaman
    2024 fifth round pick
    PHI
      Tippett
      Top 10 Protected 2024 first round pick
      2023 3rd round pick
      2.
      FLA
        But what if Giroux would only waive his NMC for Florida?


        And the Panthers knew that?
        BUF
          Then Florida's leverage in the trade talks with Philly would become overwhelming.


          That means Florida could have subjected Philly to a "Taylor Hall-like treatment".
          3.
          FLA
            In that event, instead of the Flyers getting this for Giroux et al ...


            Tippett
            Top 10 protected 2024 first round pick
            2023 3rd round pick
            BOS
              ... they would only get this instead.


              Tippett
              2023 2nd round pick
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              FLA
              1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (FLA)
              2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (FLA)
              PHI
              1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (FLA)
              5.
              FLA
                One thing I do agree on with those that thought it was a fair trade ...
                PHI
                  it could have been worse.
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                  20 mars 2022 à 11 h 42
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                  Banni
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                  they knew it
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                  20 mars 2022 à 11 h 43
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                  Giroux had no problem staying in Philly.
                  So they would have kept him ..
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                  20 mars 2022 à 11 h 46
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                  Quoting: rell1k
                  Giroux had no problem staying in Philly.
                  So they would have kept him ..


                  this^. difference between this and Hall situation was that Hall was 100% gone in offseason. giroux still probably signs in Philly
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                  20 mars 2022 à 11 h 46
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                  Quoting: rell1k
                  Giroux had no problem staying in Philly.
                  So they would have kept him ..


                  Then you get no assets for a player that leaves in the offseason. He also wanted to be dealt to a contender so I think that that was fair considering how much he gave Philly.
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                  20 mars 2022 à 11 h 50
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                  Quoting: Hii
                  Then you get no assets for a player that leaves in the offseason. He also wanted to be dealt to a contender so I think that that was fair considering how much he gave Philly.


                  This is a first , if he was getting traded he wanted to play for a contender team. But he didnt ask for a trade.
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                  20 mars 2022 à 11 h 56
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                  Sensonfire...you laid an accurate scenario. Of course Giroux could have told the Panthers, I'm only granting to the Panther which might have lessened the haul Philly made.

                  But maybe it shows that Giroux is going to sign with Flyers this summer. Giroux has fun with a playoff run, and his team next season, his Flyers get some young assets.
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                  20 mars 2022 à 12 h 11
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                  Main reason I believe this is a fair trade that could learn in Philly's favour is because of the fact that the 1st rounder is far away. Florida could potentially not be a good team in 3-4 years since a lot of their core players will need significant pay raises by then, so theres an actual chance that the 2024/25 pick could be near the top 10.
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                  20 mars 2022 à 12 h 17
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                  Quoting: Shire
                  Main reason I believe this is a fair trade that could learn in Philly's favour is because of the fact that the 1st rounder is far away. Florida could potentially not be a good team in 3-4 years since a lot of their core players will need significant pay raises by then, so theres an actual chance that the 2024/25 pick could be near the top 10.


                  Interesting point. I tend to think of future firsts as having less value, but I suppose that if you are comparing it to the very late first that this years pick will be (which the Sabres own), suppose it could be better to have a pick in the future. Also, as a gm you run the risk of acquiring future assets that the guy who replaces you gets to spend. I don't think it's a bad trade, especially since the door is still left open for giroux to return to Philly.
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                  20 mars 2022 à 12 h 26
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                  Quoting: sabres89
                  Interesting point. I tend to think of future firsts as having less value, but I suppose that if you are comparing it to the very late first that this years pick will be (which the Sabres own), suppose it could be better to have a pick in the future. Also, as a gm you run the risk of acquiring future assets that the guy who replaces you gets to spend. I don't think it's a bad trade, especially since the door is still left open for giroux to return to Philly.


                  The way I see it, I can compare it to the MTL-CHI trade that happened a few years ago (to an extent), with Danault and Weise. GMMB chose to get a 2nd round pick a few drafts after that upcoming one and it ended up working out very well for him as we got Romanov from that pick.
                  It can be the Flyers GM not being good at negotiating, it can be him respecting Giroux's wishes, or it can be him betting on Florida's downfall. I dont think the Flyers immediately lost, but we will only really see in a few years.
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