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Équipe: 2021-22 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 13 mars 2022
Publié: 13 mars 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Players we are willing to move: Kapanen, Pettersson
Player we are looking for: Top 6 scoring winger (with term, ideally)
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PIT
    Rickard Rakell
    ANA
      Rakell doesn't have term, but is definitely a top 6 scoring winger. If the Ducks move out Lindholm, they will need a top 4 LHD, and I think Pettersson fits the bill. However, I don't know if the Ducks are looking to make a hockey deal or want futures for Rakell. Also, I don't know if the Pens want to go down the rental route.
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        Tyler Bertuzzi
        Vlad Namestnikov
        DET
          Detroit can definitely use a LHD moving forward. DeKeyser, Staal and Leddy are all UFAs this summer and it is doubtful any of them return. Bertuzzi would cost an arm and a leg, and I don't think the Pens are willing to give up the assets to make it work. Namestnikov is another rental option, but I don't know if you can classify him as a top 6 player.
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            Josh Anderson
            Artturi Lehkonen
            Mike Hoffman
            MTL
              With Chiarot on the block, the Habs may need another LHD. Anderson would fit the mold of the typical Burke player, but I think Montreal keeps him. Lehkonen has definitely surpassed all expectations this year, but I think his value will be too high and not worth the price tag. Hoffman is a goalscorer and has shown it in the past, but his lack of backchecking may be a dealbreaker in my book.
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              PIT
                Jordan Eberle
                Calle Jarnkrok
                SEA
                  Giordano's departure means a top 4 spot in Seattle. Adding two younger players may just be a good move for them. Eberle does play an important leadership role, so he may not be available. However, Eberle has shown that he can score goals, especially against the Pens. He is a playoff performer and would look good in their top 6. He is slightly older, so trading two 25-year olds for a 31-year old is not ideal, but Pittsburgh is trying to win now. They have also signed 3 college free agents, helping them stock up their prospect pool a little. In my opinion, Eberle seems like the best fit if Seattle is willing to move him. Jarnkrok could also be a good addition, but he is another rental.
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                  PIT
                    J.T. Miller
                    Brock Boeser
                    Conor Garland
                    VAN
                      I don't think a Vancouver trade makes much sense at this point. They want a right hand dman, understandably, but moving Marino doesn't seem like a wise choice right now. If Letang leaves this summer, the right side of that defensive core will be among the league's worst. I don't see Vancouver wanting Pettersson, since they already have Hughes and OEL on the left. If they somehow were interested, I think Miller's value is far too high. I also am worried about Boeser's qualifying offer this summer. Needing about $7M to resign him seems excessive, considering he only has 8 more points than Kapanen. Garland to me would be the best fit. His age, contract and scoring ability all make sense. He doesn't have much playoff experience, but can still boost that top 6.
                      However, considering what the Canucks are after, I do not think Pittsburgh has the appropriate pieces to make this deal happen.
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                      13 mars 2022 à 12 h 26
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                      Namestnikov for Pettersson would be accepted by Detroit.
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                      13 mars 2022 à 12 h 35
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                      what about nyquist or drouin?
                      13 mars 2022 à 12 h 36
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                      Quoting: Billy12Bob
                      Namestnikov for Pettersson would be accepted by Detroit.


                      I think they would too. I'm not sure that works for the Pens though. It obviously gives us cap space moving forward, but I don't know if Namestnikov could be a top 6 guy for us.
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                      13 mars 2022 à 12 h 38
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                      Quoting: drambui
                      what about nyquist or drouin?


                      Drouin has been injured as of late, and has not scored much. Nyquist could definitely be interesting. Don't really know what CBJ would want and don't know if we would make a trade within division.
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                      13 mars 2022 à 12 h 43
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                      Lots of talk about a Vancouver trade (Garland?), but I really don't see the fit. Maybe in the off season when their is more flexibility for both teams.
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                      13 mars 2022 à 12 h 44
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                      I agree with what you said about the Habs forwards…..but i could see Hoffman being this years Kessel for you. How would you feel about this.

                      Hoffman for Samuel Poulin. We won’t retain but we will take Zuckers contract for a 3rd.

                      Thoughts?
                      13 mars 2022 à 12 h 45
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                      Quoting: Boldirev
                      Lots of talk about a Vancouver trade (Garland?), but I really don't see the fit. Maybe in the off season when their is more flexibility for both teams.


                      Agreed. I just can't see Marino going anywhere right now.
                      13 mars 2022 à 12 h 46
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                      I don’t see any rentals like Rakell, Jarnkrok, or Namestinkov. I also don’t see a big trade that would flip what limited young assets we have so that takes out Miller, Bertuzzi, and maybe even Josh Anderson.

                      I’ll rank the rest of them by preference

                      1 Garland

                      2 Eberle

                      3 Boeser

                      4 Lehkoken

                      5 Hoffman (I really have no interest in him though)

                      A couple wingers that aren’t mentioned who might be available:

                      Kubalik (meh)

                      Olofsson ( better option than Kubalik)

                      Blake Wheeler ( I doubt he moves but I’d be open to it with retention)

                      Koenecny (I doubt Philly makes that deal with us)

                      Kyle Palmieri (He’s done nothing this year but he can score in the playoffs)
                      13 mars 2022 à 12 h 46
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                      Quoting: Snipe52
                      I agree with what you said about the Habs forwards…..but i could see Hoffman being this years Kessel for you. How would you feel about this.

                      Hoffman for Samuel Poulin. We won’t retain but we will take Zuckers contract for a 3rd.

                      Thoughts?


                      I feel like Poulin is a lot for Hoffman. I also am excited for Zucker's return because he plays hard and goes to the dirty areas. I feel like I would want retained salary or get rid of more money.. tough to say though.
                      13 mars 2022 à 12 h 52
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                      Quoting: edeangel84
                      I don’t see any rentals like Rakell, Jarnkrok, or Namestinkov. I also don’t see a big trade that would flip what limited young assets we have so that takes out Miller, Bertuzzi, and maybe even Josh Anderson.

                      I’ll rank the rest of them by preference

                      1 Garland

                      2 Eberle

                      3 Boeser

                      4 Lehkoken

                      5 Hoffman (I really have no interest in him though)

                      A couple wingers that aren’t mentioned who might be available:

                      Kubalik (meh)

                      Olofsson ( better option than Kubalik)

                      Blake Wheeler ( I doubt he moves but I’d be open to it with retention)

                      Koenecny (I doubt Philly makes that deal with us)

                      Kyle Palmieri (He’s done nothing this year but he can score in the playoffs)


                      I would prefer Garland over Eberle, but in terms of making a trade work, I think Eberle is more realistic.
                      I could see a Oloffson for Kapanen swap. Wheeler is an interesting one, but I don't know what kind of return would be needed to get it done, especially with retention.
                      13 mars 2022 à 13 h 0
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                      Quoting: Boldirev
                      Lots of talk about a Vancouver trade (Garland?), but I really don't see the fit. Maybe in the off season when their is more flexibility for both teams.


                      I agree. I think trading Marino before a playoff run would be dumb. This offseason I’m very much interested in Marino for Garland
                      13 mars 2022 à 13 h 3
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                      Montreal is definitely not trading Anderson, Lehkonen may have also played himself out of a trade, as he has been surpassing expectations this year.

                      The last thing Montreal needs if Chiarot is moved is another LHD. We have Eddy and Romy set as top 4 next year with Guhle, Norlinder, Harris, Struble, Niku, Clague, Schueneman and Xhekaj fighting for the last roster spot and 7th D spot. My prediction is Guhle gets 3LHD Clague signs a 1 or 2 year deal to be the 7th D, Harris signs as the 3 RHD and the rest are signed to 1 or 2 year AHL deals.
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                      13 mars 2022 à 13 h 4
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                      Quoting: edeangel84
                      I agree. I think trading Marino before a playoff run would be dumb. This offseason I’m very much interested in Marino for Garland


                      If we manage to replace him.. I feel like it is easier to sign a top 6 free agent than it is to sign a top 4 RHD.
                      13 mars 2022 à 13 h 4
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                      Quoting: Campabee
                      Montreal is definitely not trading Anderson, Lehkonen may have also played himself out of a trade, as he has been surpassing expectations this year.

                      The last thing Montreal needs if Chiarot is moved is another LHD. We have Eddy and Romy set as top 4 next year with Guhle, Norlinder, Harris, Struble, Niku, Clague, Schueneman and Xhekaj fighting for the last roster spot and 7th D spot. My prediction is Guhle gets 3LHD Clague signs a 1 or 2 year deal to be the 7th D, Harris signs as the 3 RHD and the rest are signed to 1 or 2 year AHL deals.


                      Fair enough.. I honestly am not interested in anyone beyond Anderson, and I know he is pretty much untouchable.
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                      13 mars 2022 à 13 h 5
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                      Quoting: edeangel84
                      I agree. I think trading Marino before a playoff run would be dumb. This offseason I’m very much interested in Marino for Garland


                      At this point it's not clear what Rutherford/Alvin have in mind or their timeline, but it seems like some kind of trade with the Pens is likely.
                      13 mars 2022 à 13 h 15
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                      Hoffman backchecking has improved drastically the last few games and its no surprise that he's been playing way better since, i feel like he's the one that wouldn't cost too much and both teams will be happy to talk about a trade
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                      13 mars 2022 à 13 h 22
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                      Quoting: Marcsnack
                      I think they would too. I'm not sure that works for the Pens though. It obviously gives us cap space moving forward, but I don't know if Namestnikov could be a top 6 guy for us.


                      He's been bouncing between the 3rd and 1st in Detroit. He plays hard at both ends of the ice. He'd fit on Malkin's line nicely has the same production as Heinen but on a worse team.
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                      13 mars 2022 à 13 h 24
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                      It will be interesting to see if news comes out about a Letang extension this week. If the Pens get him extended, that could signal a Marino trade, because I doubt they would consider moving Marino if they think they could lose Letang. Otherwise, Marino would be worth moving for the right price (i.e. J.T. Miller).
                      13 mars 2022 à 13 h 25
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                      Quoting: Billy12Bob
                      Namestnikov for Pettersson would be accepted by Detroit.


                      So Pittsburgh gives a 3rd for Namestnikov and when the seasons ends Detroit gives back the 3rd for Pettersson.
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                      13 mars 2022 à 13 h 26
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                      Quoting: Yenzer
                      It will be interesting to see if news comes out about a Letang extension this week. If the Pens get him extended, that could signal a Marino trade, because I doubt they would consider moving Marino if they think they could lose Letang. Otherwise, Marino would be worth moving for the right price (i.e. J.T. Miller).


                      Who plays in his spot then?
                      13 mars 2022 à 13 h 27
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                      Quoting: Marcsnack
                      I think they would too. I'm not sure that works for the Pens though. It obviously gives us cap space moving forward, but I don't know if Namestnikov could be a top 6 guy for us.


                      Is Bertuzzi available?
                      13 mars 2022 à 13 h 47
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                      Quoting: Marcsnack
                      Who plays in his spot then?


                      Depends on the trade. If they do business with the Canucks, maybe Schenn comes back the other way? Maybe a second trade can bring another RD in? You also have Friedman and Ruhwedel as right-handers on the back end.
                      13 mars 2022 à 13 h 49
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                      Quoting: Yenzer
                      Depends on the trade. If they do business with the Canucks, maybe Schenn comes back the other way? Maybe a second trade can bring another RD in? You also have Friedman and Ruhwedel as right-handers on the back end.


                      I dont think any of them are top 4 dmen..
                      13 mars 2022 à 13 h 49
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                      Quoting: aedoran
                      Is Bertuzzi available?


                      Is he?
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                      13 mars 2022 à 13 h 51
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                      Quoting: Marcsnack
                      I dont think any of them are top 4 dmen..


                      I don't think Marino is a top 4 defenseman. Lol.
                       
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