Quoting: Ricochetti
1. Vegas Negotiations
Vegas gets an exclusive 48 hour window to attempt to sign a team's unprotected free agents.
The proposal is that we give them 1 shot to make a bid on each player they are interested in.
The home team can either match and lock in an early bid for that player, or they can let Vegas take him.
2. Expansion draft is going to be one of the easier things to manage. We just have to make sure the 20/30, minimum requirements of each position are filled, and 1 player is selected from every team. Most of that falls to Vegas themselves. We just have to make sure there are no errors along the way.
3. Some people want to do all the rounds, some want to submit preference lists for if they aren't here at the right time to select, some want to do autoselect, etc. Once we have the details figured out, actually doing it will be a little easier. A thread is a little clunky for that purpose, so I'd probably suggest a spreadsheet for that as well. (No, I don't have an obsession with spreadsheets. :P It's just the most available and accessible method to organize these things and they allow for a little bid of coding to make things simpler.)
4. UFA rights, I believe everyone is on board(?), that the owner of the player's rights gets to match the highest offer and "win" that player if they choose.
I would add that a team must submit at least an opening bid on that player to retain that right. (Some of those opening bids would come from matching Vegas free agent signing attempts)
My idea is that once a player's auction is over. The home team gets one last crack. If they beat the highest offer on the table, they sign that player instead of the winner. That's a significant advantage, and makes player rights worth enough to merit owning them.
1 - Ok got it now. Makes sense to me. If rangersfan is okay with it, I think its a good idea. This really needs to be a discussion with Phillyjabroni more than anything too.
2 - What happens when a GM doesn't submit the protection list in time? What if multiple GM's don't. Are we prepared to give LV 10 1st round picks if it comes to that? The requirements are pretty easy to implement as Capfriendly has a useful tool anyone can use. So the onus should really be on the GM.
3 - I'm all for spreadsheets but I can see how "some " people might think that is too much. Banks/Jarvis, im curious but would Capfriendly be able to incorporate an Entry draft selection tool? It would be just compiling information from other sites essentially. Storing it in and presenting it in a format similar to the "active player" listing. Would that be something that could happen?
4 - Yeah this is the trickiest one to do but I agree with the guy that thinks Im the devil, making it too complicated is not a good idea. Its got to be something even casual fans can understand. Original rights teams gets to match any offer plus 100K as the benefit of owning the rights. Total dollar value gets the tie breaker. Each team is done alphabetically. Bidding is where Im confused. How do we do a silent auction?
Quoting: Ricochetti
Sorry, forgot to address this part, was sidetracked.
Just like any game, you tend to end up with casual and hardcore players. Casual players tend to waiver faster and be rather sporadic in activity.
I'm not suggesting we rush headfirst into things, but that we don't have to mirror the real life timelines. Regardless, I think we'll be deep enough into the playoffs by the time we get to UFA bidding that a performance based influence can still be taken into account there. For the most part, decisions that are made now aren't going to be drastically affecting who to trade/not trade (imho). I don't see enough of a reason to delay our schedule on those grounds. The delays that should happen are those necessary to be properly prepared to execute plans and the Entry Draft which we have already decided is based on the real life lottery.
The real playoffs, protected lists, expansion draft, and free agency, don't impact our decisions here, as they will differ from the real life teams (for the most part) regardless of whether we wait or not.
I need to elaborate a bit. Im NOT suggesting doing the events at the EXACT time as the real thing. All I'm saying is that we postpone the events of the expansion draft, Entry draft, UFA to later like maybe late May or at the very least the Stanley cup finals round. At that point, pretty much all the variables have been set. Once we have all the rules agreed upon and approved by rangersandislesfan, then setting dates can happen. You're talking about confirming and making rules official after we've already set dates for these things. IMO we're doing this backwards. Let's make sure everything is hashed out first then set the dates. Whether they are earlier like proposed or later like I mentioned. we aren't in any rush. We have tons of time! Its still only April!
As for your last sentence. I disagree wholeheartedly. I think real life actions will drastically affect peoples perceptions in our game. The over exaggerated example I use is injuries/Illness. What if Crosby gets a concussion in the finals this year and misses an entire year of hockey again in real life? Are you willing to trade me five 1st round picks for Crosby now? Of course not, the real world is our basis for our actions. You want Crosby because he is one of the best scorers in the league and scored 40+ goals this year in real life. You won't want Crosby in our game if he's injured and possibly going to retire as a result.
Obviously that is an exaggeration and I understand that waiting for the playoffs to be over is maybe too long of time and not needed but I guarantee you right now a player that was going to be exposed to expansion or not be resigned or whatever was traded away in our game and is going to be a huge contributor to his team and get resigned for huge money that had the GM in the game had the chance to wait longer before making a decision on, now would of.