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Créé par: Hii
Équipe: 2021-22 Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Date de création initiale: 10 mars 2022
Publié: 10 mars 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
So, this is the value for most of the players on Ottawa, Forsberg probably does not get traded and Paul is a maybe, Conor Brown will not be traded but for the purpose of this ACGM I will be trading them and looking at what their value should probably be in the trades. Also the teams that I have them going to are just placeholders.
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1.
OTT
  1. Petrov, Matvei
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (EDM)
EDM
  1. Brown, Connor
Détails additionnels:
You could probably get more anyway but you could definently get more with retention.
2.
OTT
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (WPG)
VAN
  1. Sanford, Zachary
Détails additionnels:
Third is probably his value, that's what it cost to pry him from ST. Louis, you could probably get a late pick if you retained.
3.
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  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (CGY)
Détails additionnels:
I think that he is worth a third round pick, maybe a little bit more and around the same thing with retention, he may be able to get a 3rd and a 5th if you get retained.
4.
OTT
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2023 (CBJ)
CBJ
  1. Ennis, Tyler
Détails additionnels:
Insanely high skilled but a smaller forward, he would be great for a team with a struggling second powerplay, he may not even be traded. But a 5th or a 4th is what he is worth, he is insanely high skilled and can play with skilled players but is also insanely hard working.
5.
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NSH
  1. Brown, Joshua
Détails additionnels:
4th or 5th maybe even later picks, probably a 4th or 5th if you got retained but he would be great for a team looking to add a big physical defensively capable defenceman to their point for a long playoff run, would not be suprised if some of the top contenders called about him as he would be great for a playoff run. He is capable of playing high minutes.
6.
OTT
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2023 (NYI)
NYI
  1. Mete, Victor
Détails additionnels:
Maybe a 5th but he could also go for less, he will not be back in Ottawa for the end of the year though I think as he is skilled and a very good skater but he does not fit the long term scheme of the team and will get pushed out by other defenceman, may not be traded.
7.
OTT
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (PIT)
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2022 (PIT)
PIT
  1. Paul, Nicholas
Détails additionnels:
Is a player that is worth a lot because of his skill, skating ability and other intangebles, helps that he is on a very good contract and any team will love the player, he will be a great add for a playoff team but will cost quite a bit giving he is on a steal of a contract and is a great depth player capable of playing in the top 6 and middle 6.
8.
OTT
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (COL)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (COL)
COL
  1. Forsberg, Anton
Détails additionnels:
He could be the best Goaltender on the market and I'm not convinced that he Sens should move him, for that reason I think that it will be a big overpay for them to move him as he has provided stability in the Sens net for almost two years. He might be the best goaltender on the market (if available) if MAF decides that he does not want to move. It will take a big overpayment for the Sens to move him that's why his value is high.
9.
OTT
TOR
  1. Zub, Artem
Détails additionnels:
Not available so don't even try.
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
1581 500 000 $52 096 507 $0 $4 507 500 $29 403 493 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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8 330 674 $8 330 674 $
AG
UFA - 7
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4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 4
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1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
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997 500 $997 500 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
C
UFA - 2
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
C
UFA - 1
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747 500 $747 500 $ (Bonis de performance107 500 $$108K)
AG
RFA - 1
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726 667 $726 667 $
AG
RFA - 1
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843 333 $843 333 $
AG
RFA - 5
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 7
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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787 500 $787 500 $
G
UFA - 2
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance450 000 $$450K)
DG/DD, AG
RFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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4 687 500 $4 687 500 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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4 975 000 $4 975 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 6
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance600 000 $$600K)
C
RFA - 2

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10 mars 2022 à 15 h 12
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I would agree to your valuation of the Brown-to-Edmonton trade provided Kassian was Ottawa-bound and Edmonton had another small piece, say a 4th, returning to Ottawa. No retention on Brown obviously.

I firmly accept that a fully-retained Connor Brown handily returns a 1st round pick, maybe a tiny little kicker to boot. Petrov is likely valued at around a 2nd round pick (just thinking if we redid that draft today, probably early second round?). I think this combination is asking for far, far too much from the Oilers.

I don't know how eager I am to pull the trigger on such a deal - I think I would - but man do I really like Petrov.
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10 mars 2022 à 15 h 14
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I would agree to your valuation of the Brown-to-Edmonton trade provided Kassian was Ottawa-bound and Edmonton had another small piece, say a 4th, returning to Ottawa. No retention on Brown obviously.

I firmly accept that a fully-retained Connor Brown handily returns a 1st round pick, maybe a tiny little kicker to boot. Petrov is likely valued at around a 2nd round pick (just thinking if we redid that draft today, probably early second round?). I think this combination is asking for far, far too much from the Oilers.

I don't know how eager I am to pull the trigger on such a deal - I think I would - but man do I really like Petrov.


Meh, doesn't have to be Petrov, has to be a good prospect though, maybe around a third in value.
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Quoting: BeterChiarelli
I would agree to your valuation of the Brown-to-Edmonton trade provided Kassian was Ottawa-bound and Edmonton had another small piece, say a 4th, returning to Ottawa. No retention on Brown obviously.

I firmly accept that a fully-retained Connor Brown handily returns a 1st round pick, maybe a tiny little kicker to boot. Petrov is likely valued at around a 2nd round pick (just thinking if we redid that draft today, probably early second round?). I think this combination is asking for far, far too much from the Oilers.

I don't know how eager I am to pull the trigger on such a deal - I think I would - but man do I really like Petrov.


Quoting: BeterChiarelli
I would agree to your valuation of the Brown-to-Edmonton trade provided Kassian was Ottawa-bound and Edmonton had another small piece, say a 4th, returning to Ottawa. No retention on Brown obviously.

I firmly accept that a fully-retained Connor Brown handily returns a 1st round pick, maybe a tiny little kicker to boot. Petrov is likely valued at around a 2nd round pick (just thinking if we redid that draft today, probably early second round?). I think this combination is asking for far, far too much from the Oilers.

I don't know how eager I am to pull the trigger on such a deal - I think I would - but man do I really like Petrov.


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Meh, doesn't have to be Petrov, has to be a good prospect though, maybe around a third in value.


maybe Lavoie?
10 mars 2022 à 15 h 22
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Quoting: BeterChiarelli
I would agree to your valuation of the Brown-to-Edmonton trade provided Kassian was Ottawa-bound and Edmonton had another small piece, say a 4th, returning to Ottawa. No retention on Brown obviously.

I firmly accept that a fully-retained Connor Brown handily returns a 1st round pick, maybe a tiny little kicker to boot. Petrov is likely valued at around a 2nd round pick (just thinking if we redid that draft today, probably early second round?). I think this combination is asking for far, far too much from the Oilers.

I don't know how eager I am to pull the trigger on such a deal - I think I would - but man do I really like Petrov.

Petrov is doing just as well as Bourgault right now, he probably should be valued at a late 1st round pick actually. He certainly has as much upside as anyone right now. He's big, fast, has great hands and a great shot - there's literally nothing to dislike about him.
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maybe Lavoie?


Not sure why Edmonton would do that though. If anything they're looking for big, physical winger who can score, Brown is not that.
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Meh, doesn't have to be Petrov, has to be a good prospect though, maybe around a third in value.


Quoting: oilersguy
maybe Lavoie?


If it were to be Lavoie, Edmonton probably still adds. I'd really prefer to send Kassian to the Atlantic in this deal, so if it needed to be a 1st, 2nd, and Lavoie, I'd honestly do it. At that price though I'd expect Ottawa on the hook for 50% of Brown and all of Kassian.

Quoting: CD282
Petrov is doing just as well as Bourgault right now, he probably should be valued at a late 1st round pick actually. He certainly has as much upside as anyone right now. He's big, fast, has great hands and a great shot - there's literally nothing to dislike about him.


Early second, late first, potayto potahto. But I fully agree, he's been an absolute gem of a find.

If Katz were to somehow revolutionize the hockey management front by having essentially two general managers - one for the NHL and cap stuff and one for drafting and development - I'd happily keep Holland and K.Gretz in that second silo. It's been one of the few things Kenny continues to do right.
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maybe Lavoie?

Quoting: CD282
Petrov is doing just as well as Bourgault right now, he probably should be valued at a late 1st round pick actually. He certainly has as much upside as anyone right now. He's big, fast, has great hands and a great shot - there's literally nothing to dislike about him.



Maybe, thanks for the insight into Petrov, I knew he was a good prospect, would Carter Savoie work?
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Maybe, thanks for the insight into Petrov, I knew he was a good prospect, would Carter Savoie work?

Savoie is matching Caufield's NHLe's in NCAA this year, for the 2nd year in a row.

No.
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Savoie is matching Caufield's NHLe's in NCAA this year, for the 2nd year in a row.

No.


Okay, for all the stuff that Lavoie gets in this forum he really isn't a bad player and is ranked pretty highly in the NHL top 100 prospects. I was just using this so Leafs fans could stop making ACGM's of them sending Mrazek over for Forsberg and Paul.
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Paul is on a good salary, but he's a UFA this summer.
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Paul is on a good salary, but he's a UFA this summer.


Okay, so, he is a rental, you have to pay for rentals too...
Everyone forgets that on this site.
11 mars 2022 à 10 h 42
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Okay, so, he is a rental, you have to pay for rentals too...
Everyone forgets that on this site.


Yes, but a UFA rental price is a bit lower than one with term. Nobody forgot anything.
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Yes, but a UFA rental price is a bit lower than one with term. Nobody forgot anything.


He still is a very highly rated player that will do anything for the coach in the game, any team would love to have him. What are you getting at?
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He still is a very highly rated player that will do anything for the coach in the game, any team would love to have him. What are you getting at?


I was just noting that he's a UFA, that's all. I'd love to have him, but would not overpay for a rental.
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I was just noting that he's a UFA, that's all. I'd love to have him, but would not overpay for a rental.


Oh, okay, I think that that is close to fair value given that their probably will be a bidding war, his base value is probably a second and rentention could get you a fourth or maybe alone he could get you a 2nd and 4th if a team ponnied up to get him.
 
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