Even with Mrazek, we’d still have ”no goalies whatsoever”
We don’t have interest in him
And if we did… u sure as hell aren’t getting a 3rd
Heck… good luck even getting the 5th
It’s not gonna be from us though

I don’t see Mikheyev coming back, he’ll be looking for as much money as possible and someone will pay him more than the leafs

Fair enough!
I remember seeing reports that there was a lot of interest in the case that the leafs decided to move him a couple weeks ago, so I don't think that the 3rd is a stretch.
Let's be honest, he would be an improvement over what you have currently. I do agree that he isn't a long term starter, but as your rebuild I think he could be a good addition in a tandem.

Yes ,you are probably right.

I always find interesting that fans think they dump 2m Holl and 1.5m Dermot for picks, "because they must go" then the Leafs are able to sign a UFA RHD Lybushin for 1.8m, which supposedly makes them better.
Kinda of interesting the only changes from the current lineup is Mrzarek, Dermot and Holl.

I am not saying that Dermott and Holl are awful or the problem necessarily. But, I think that at this point, with Sandin and Liljegren ready for the NHL (and both objectively better than Holl and Dermott), it doesn't make sense given the cap situation to keep either of those defenseman. On Lybushkin, are you saying that 1.8 million is too litte?

I don’t think what u saw said “a lot” of interest
And if it did, that had to be an exaggeration

Also, i challenge whether he actually would be bettter than what we have right now
Mrazek has an .890 save% this season for u guys
He’s playing TERRIBLE

And why would we pay a draft pick- or multiple picks, like u suggest- when there’s better guys than him as UFAs???
It just doesn’t make sense

Especially since we have UPL, a good young prospect who’s played well- actually BETTER than Mrazek (and on a much worse team) with a .917 save% this season
He’s gonna get his chance to be the starter for us

And sure, we’d like to pair a Vet with him
But like i said, there’s better available in UFA
Hell… we currently have Craig Anderson (.909sv%) and Dustin Tokarski (.902sv%) who are playing better than Mrazek…. and again, on a much worse team


I know the report said there were teams interested in him,
but we’ll see what u end up getting
I’m betting it’s a late round pick at best

I can’t see any way we’d be interested
Doesn’t make sense for us dude

U are t getting a 3rd for Holl either
He’s a bottom pair defenseman dude
And there’s a reason you’re trying to dump him

I think you’re WAY overvaluing your guys here dude

You make a convincing argument.
To be honest, I picked buffalo without too much thought, I was just basing it on the fact that the team doesn't have any goaltending depth.
So, you probably are right that a trade to buffalo doesn't make much sense....

However, I do still think that you are seriously undervaluing him.
He has been subpar and injured this year, but in the past 3 season with Carolina he was rocking at approximately a 915 sv % (923 in 12 games last year!).
I genuinely do believe that his value is around a 3rd and perhaps more (Tell me honestly you couldn't see Ken Holland giving us a 2nd for Mrazek come on).

As far as me overhyping the fact that there is a lot of interest surrounding him, this is a quote from Jeff Marek on Jan 29th.
"However, there have been some teams that have called the Maple Leafs and said, Look, if you're looking to make a move with that goaltender, give us a call, we are interested. Very much there is a marketplace for Petr Mrazek but for (GM) Kyle Dubas, all goaltending decisions are summer decisions."

Disagree on the 'WAY'.
I am not 'dumping' him. The leafs have better guys on the come up (Sandin, Liljegren), so we don't need him. The idea that Holl is not an NHL defenceman is ridiculous, Its us leafs fans completely picking on a guy and overreacting. When it comes to his analytics he has been decent this year.
Maybe a fourth is more appropriate but nothing less.

Here’s my major problem with what you’re saying….

U read that quote from Jeff Marek above,
and somehow him saying SOME TEAMS translated by you became A LOT OF TEAMS

His good stats came with a team that played awesome team defense- u gotta take that into account
I just don’t think any team out there is gonna give u a good pick for a guy playing so poorly this season- injury or not
I mean, good luck
Maybe Holland or some other sucker will get swindled by you guys??
If that happens…. U come on back & say “i told u so” to me
But i SERIOUSLY doubt it


And yeah, i do think you’re WAY overvaluing these guys
If just about EVERY Leafs fan is dumping the same exact players, they just aren’t gonna have value dude
If u guys know they aren’t good enough, so will NHL GMs

I think u have a problem translating what u read bud
I called him a BOTTOM PAIR DEFENSEMAN
I did not say he “is not an nhl defenseman” as u put it

Words matter

Damn homie you don't have to come after my reading comprehension skills like that.
Just trying to have a chill discussion, No need to get defensive.
Just remember me when Mrazek is dealt for more than a 3rd

No offense intended, and i mean that sincerely….
but u also did it when u heard Makek say “SOME teams” and u turned that into “A LOT” of teams

You’re clearly confusing things dude

LOL, Buffalo just loves to read his comments.
He is an empty kettle who would disagree with his own comment if he thought it would give him more air time.
You gave him a reasonable answer which should have solicited a like from him.
Most Buffalo fans only know what they read or hear here or in the media.
Currently Holl just may be Buffalo's BEST RHD, but I always give a thumbs up when he is traded to Buffalo for nearly nothing (very selfish on my part).
On the other hand, by nearly every metric Dermott is the Leafs worse D-man.
He has the lowest ice time, no PP, low PK, lowest hits, lowest Blocked shots, fewest goal, fewest points of any TML D-man
No one will give up a fourth for him.
If I were the Sabres GM I would try to get Holl for less than a third (he is worth more than that) but pass on Mrázek.

Well you aren’t the Sabres GM, thank goodness

I just think it makes no sense that the Leafs (if you the GM) you can rid yourself of 2m Holl, and1.5m Dermot for picks, and then sign supposedly the better Dman Lybushin for 1.8m.
Just asking of those three players named....who is the best player? By the way, I don't know enos ugh about Lyubushin, but in his first game, he misplayed a puck resulting in breakaway for a goal. If that had been Holl or Dermot the hangman's noose would have been out on CapFriendly.