Quoting: MauriceArthur15
We heard 4 1st rounders for Eichel. We gotta take what GMs and insiders say with a grain of salt. The most realistic trade will be Coleman return. 2020 1st, and Nolan Foote. In that trade I severely overpaid and y'all still aint happy, showing how bias is misguiding your judgement.
Gave a 2023 1st, 2022 2nd, Dermott and Hiroven for Hagel
There is no bias here, purely objective. Why would the Hawks move Hagel for anything other then a large overpay? There is not one trade involving Hagel that will go through without the other team's fanbase being unhappy. Hawks aren't shopping him and have zero reason to move him other then a offer they can't refuse. Not sure why that's difficult to understand?
Dermott btw will be perceived as a cap dump by the Hawks. Hawks are loaded with younger, cheaper, higher upside, and or better players/prospects then Dermott so that is likely viewed as a cap dump and doesn't add value but subtracts value from the trade. I already discussed how valuable very late 1st round picks are. Very late 2nd round picks even less so. Hirvonen is a good prospect sure, but I'm not sure I would call him a top prospect; he's probably not even in Toronto's top 3 prospects.
You are showing you aren't happy, because you just aren't grabbing the facts that the Hawks aren't trading Hagel, have been approached by multiple teams shutting them all down, and every beat writer is saying it's going to be a massive overpayment. This is not that. A 1st, one of your top 3 if not top 2 prospects is what is likely needed to get the Hawks to listen all based on the reports and analysts from the pros. And no, that's not fair to toronto but that is the position and luxury the Hawks are in with owning Hagel.
And btw, Eichel is a horrible measuring stick given his public display of wanting out, Buffalo's public display of keeping him out unless they he has the surgery they want, needing a massive surgery that will likely impact his play long term, carrying a $10M cap hit (most teams can't absorb) and then UFA in 4 years for a lot of unknowns how he will perform post op. With all that, he was never worth 4 first round picks.