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Créé par: Drsods17
Date de création initiale: 16 févr. 2022
Publié: 17 févr. 2022
Équipe: 2022-23 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Joseph, Pierre-Olivier3925 000 $
Kapanen, Kasperi33 450 000 $
Yamamoto, Kailer21 500 000 $
Heinen, Danton33 000 000 $
Friedman, Mark2875 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Athanasiou, Andreas54 000 000 $
Malkin, Evgeni37 000 000 $
Rask, Victor54 250 000 $
Rutta, Jan42 100 000 $
DeSmith, Casey31 650 000 $
Transactions
1.
PIT
  1. 2022 3e round pick (NYI)
NYI
  1. Pettersson, Marcus
2.
PIT
  1. Barrie, Tyson
  2. Yamamoto, Kailer [Droits de RFA]
  3. Lavoie, Raphael
  4. 2022 1e round pick (EDM)
EDM
  1. Guentzel, Jake
3.
PIT
  1. Tarasenko, Vladimir
STL
  1. Kapanen, Kasperi
  2. 2022 1e round pick (EDM)
Rachats de contrats
  • Jack Johnson: 1 916 667 $
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2022
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Logo de NYI
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Logo de PIT
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2023
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de TOR
2024
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2281 500 000 $80 079 167 $0 $82 500 $1 420 833 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Athanasiou, Andreas
4 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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Crosby, Sidney
8 700 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 3
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Tarasenko, Vladimir
7 500 000 $
AD
NTC
UFA - 1
Rask, Victor
4 250 000 $
C
UFA
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Malkin, Evgeni
7 000 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 4
Yamamoto, Kailer
1 500 000 $
AD, C
RFA - 2
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McGinn, Brock
2 750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
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Carter, Jeff
3 125 000 $
C, AD
NMC
UFA - 2
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Heinen, Danton
3 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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Zucker, Jason
5 500 000 $
AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 1
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Blueger, Teddy
2 200 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de EDM
Lavoie, Raphael
870 000 $
AD, C
RFA - 1
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Puustinen, Valtteri
842 500 $
AG
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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Dumoulin, Brian
4 100 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 1
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Barrie, Tyson
4 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de PIT
Jarry, Tristan
3 500 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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Matheson, Michael
4 875 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de PIT
Marino, John
4 400 000 $
DD
UFA - 5
Logo de PIT
DeSmith, Casey
1 650 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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Joseph, Pierre-Olivier
925 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
Rutta, Jan
2 100 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
Logo de PIT
Friedman, Mark
875 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2

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17 févr. à 8 h 34
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Can't see that getting you Tarasenko.
17 févr. à 8 h 38
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Take out Lavoie and the Oilers accept. They dont have alot of right shot wingers in their system, they would be giving up 2 in this deal. Maybe swap Lavoie with Savoie.
17 févr. à 8 h 41
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Pens decline the first two trades. Were not trading Guentzel and even if we did it would be a way better return
17 févr. à 8 h 44
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Not sure why PIT is moving Guentzel.

Pretty underwhelming for Vladdy.
17 févr. à 9 h 7
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Take out Lavoie and the Oilers accept. They dont have alot of right shot wingers in their system, they would be giving up 2 in this deal. Maybe swap Lavoie with Savoie.

Edmonton has more right shot forward prospects in the system than left shot. And Savoie has more value than Lavoie.

I'd rank Edmonton's forward prospects like this:

Holloway L
Savoie L
Bourgault R
Petrov R
Lavoie R
Tullio R
Berezkin R
Denezhkin L
17 févr. à 9 h 17
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Edmonton has more right shot forward prospects in the system than left shot. And Savoie has more value than Lavoie.

I'd rank Edmonton's forward prospects like this:

Holloway L
Savoie L
Bourgault R
Petrov R
Lavoie R
Tullio R
Berezkin R
Denezhkin L


Holloway L
Bourgault R
Lavoie R
Savoie L
Petrov- plays LW

The rest probably wont be NHL regulars and Savoie is a shrimp, further away from being NHL ready, & doesnt play C as well as wing, so Lavoie>Savoie.
17 févr. à 9 h 41
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I’d say Edmonton’s cap situation moving forward is a huge stumbling block in making a move like this.
17 févr. à 9 h 46
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I’d say Edmonton’s cap situation moving forward is a huge stumbling block in making a move like this.


With our cap situation and overall team need... really would be better off going for another top 4 Dman or starting goalie if you're going to make a blockbuster trade.
17 févr. à 10 h 17
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Pens decline the first 2, St. Louis declines the Kap trade
17 févr. à 10 h 23
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Quoting: ceeque84
Holloway L
Bourgault R
Lavoie R
Savoie L
Petrov- plays LW

The rest probably wont be NHL regulars and Savoie is a shrimp, further away from being NHL ready, & doesnt play C as well as wing, so Lavoie>Savoie.

Lavoie doesn't play center either, never has. You should get to know the prospects on the team, they're fun to follow.

Savoie is posting similar NHLe's in NCAA as Cole Caufield - he has a far higher ceiling than Lavoie. Perhaps Bourgault is ahead of him, I have all of Bourgault, Savoie and Petrov very close to each other. Petrov shoots right.

Here is their current age and NHLe:

Savoie, 20: 22-24-46
Petrov, 18: 18-23-41
Bourgault, 19: 20-20-40
Lavoie, 21: 12-12-24
Tullio, 19: 15-22-37

Recently Lavoie seems to have settled in and is scoring at a point-per-game pace, so I think his NHLe will rise towards the end of the season. But right now he's the oldest of the 5 and has the lowest production, although he is playing in the hardest league. Right now Savoie looks like a 20+ goal scorer in the NHL, while Lavoie does not. Lavoie may be closer to playing in the NHL, but his ultimate ceiling appears to be lower.
17 févr. à 10 h 27
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Quoting: ceeque84
Holloway L
Bourgault R
Lavoie R
Savoie L
Petrov- plays LW

The rest probably wont be NHL regulars and Savoie is a shrimp, further away from being NHL ready, & doesnt play C as well as wing, so Lavoie>Savoie.

I wouldn't be so sure: https://theathletic.com/2794655/2021/08/29/lowetide-why-oilers-fans-should-be-excited-about-the-progress-of-maxim-berezkin/?amp
17 févr. à 10 h 31
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Holloway L
Bourgault R
Lavoie R
Savoie L
Petrov- plays LW

The rest probably wont be NHL regulars and Savoie is a shrimp, further away from being NHL ready, & doesnt play C as well as wing, so Lavoie>Savoie.


Quoting: CD282
Lavoie doesn't play center either, never has. You should get to know the prospects on the team, they're fun to follow.

Savoie is posting similar NHLe's in NCAA as Cole Caufield - he has a far higher ceiling than Lavoie. Perhaps Bourgault is ahead of him, I have all of Bourgault, Savoie and Petrov very close to each other. Petrov shoots right.

Here is their current age and NHLe:

Savoie, 20: 22-24-46
Petrov, 18: 18-23-41
Bourgault, 19: 20-20-40
Lavoie, 21: 12-12-24
Tullio, 19: 15-22-37

Recently Lavoie seems to have settled in and is scoring at a point-per-game pace, so I think his NHLe will rise towards the end of the season. But right now he's the oldest of the 5 and has the lowest production, although he is playing in the hardest league. Right now Savoie looks like a 20+ goal scorer in the NHL, while Lavoie does not. Lavoie may be closer to playing in the NHL, but his ultimate ceiling appears to be lower.

I should point out that Lavoie's recent point-per-game pace in the AHL would result in an NHLe of 20-20-40 if maintained long term. So his production right now as a 21-year-old is behind 20-year-old Savoie and about where 19-year-old Bourgault and 18-year-old Petrov are at.
17 févr. à 11 h 0
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Banni
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Quoting: ceeque84
Take out Lavoie and the Oilers accept. They dont have alot of right shot wingers in their system, they would be giving up 2 in this deal. Maybe swap Lavoie with Savoie.


your not getting Jake.

what's even more funny than how bad that trade is for PIT, is that you have somehow come to the conclusion that it's an over pay?
because 40 goal wingers grow on trees.
 
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