Why would Brown be more expensive than Reinhart?

Good point. Trade is modelled after the Coleman trade Tampa did. Coleman cost a 1st and a 1st round prospect from an earlier draft, same package here. Coleman was traded at 1.8m with an extra year on his contract just like this too and I’d say Brown is better then Coleman.

I’d say the fact that he’s almost 5m/year cheaper than Reinhart and scoring at a 60 point pace on a bottom 5 team speaks to value. Reinhart was acquired needing a new expensive contract. You get two years of Brown at a tiny hit to the cap. Line driver and doesn’t even play with the top Ottawa players. One of the leagues best pkers as well. But I’d say the contract is the biggest reason.

Yeah, I just think if they're spending basically two 1sts, they should address a need. The Panthers are loaded at the wings (which is why Tippett is falling out of favor). They don't necessarily need a guy like Brown.

They could get a legitimate top4 dman with this price. Someone like Severson from NJ, I'd say. Brown would be a risk they don't have to take since he's been on a 60-point pace for only 26 games.

Connor Brown brings a LOT MORE than points though. He's a match up forward who scores mainly at ES (~top-70 in the NHL) and on the PK (elite Pker). He got quite good at takeaways (was 2nd behind Mark Stone last season) and received Selke votes last season.

Reinhart and Brown should be switched in OP's lineup

Marchment - Lundell - Brown

would be hell of a 3rd line

And Brown scoring is just not from this season, 0.63 PPG in Ottawa (153 GP)

Ottawa should add a little something but what? What kind of depth the Panthers need?

All that being said, even though this trade is very good, I hope the Sens actually extend Connor Brown instead of trading him. Players like that don't grow on trees.

Ottawa would likely need to add a little something. Maybe the VAN or BOS 2022 3rd?

I know what Brown brings to the table, the Panthers have players like that, too. I don't see Brown the way you see him (he has more giveaways than takeaways and I don't believe he'd be in the Panthers' 1st PK unit), but I get that he's a fan favorite. I see guys like Lomberg and Hornqvist through pink glasses.

I don't believe Sens have anything to add, the Panthers should probably be giving away less. This trade feels like too much for something the Panthers don't need.

To be fair, I think the giveaways can directly be attributed to trying to facilitate offence on a team, and more specifically a line, where there isn’t a ton of anyone else doing so and I’d suspect those would go down considerably on a team like Florida where that wouldn’t be asked of him as much.

But point well received. That’s why I titled the AGM, mid sized splash. Definitely not the flashiest addition.

I think I also may have misunderstood floridas cap situation for next year. Maybe it’s not as dire of a situation as I thought it was.

Nah you clearly seem to be among the average NHL fans who don't really know who Connor Brown is. And it's ok because the vast majority of hockey fans don't know anything outside of their own team

People like me don't value Brown because he is a "fan favorite" lol, I could care less. But the facts don't lie and I dig a lot of deeper than the average hockey fan does.

- Top-50 in EVP + SHP (even strength points + short handed points) , despite heavy defensive deployment
- 2nd in takeaways (behind only the TkA King Mark Stone)
- 3rd in SH TOI/GP among forwards (elite PKer)
- 17th in Selke votes

There's also the eye test and Connor Brown does A LOT everywhere on the ice. When you know and understand hockey, it's easy to see why he's a coach favorite and quintessential forward.


Also, you say "he has more giveaways than takeaways"... ok 27 vs 20 this season (sample size)... but what about last season? 56 TkAs vs 29 GvAs. Same story the year before and every other godamn season in his career... funny how you conveniently let that part out


Also, "don't believe he'd be in the Panthers' 1st PK unit" : maybe not because Barkov is an elite 2-way center and Lundell is a rookie but the same kind of player. However, it gives the coaching staff more options if they want to rest Barkov and/or Huberdeau so they get more offensive deployments.




This I can perfectly understand though and I believe it is also a tad too much value, Tippett is still too good of an asset to be on top of that 1st.

Sens fans shouldn't hope to see this trade happen either. It would mean that they can't extend Brown and have to "sell him", which means another rebuilding move... Sens need more good vets, not less.

I don't know what stats you're looking at, but I can't find that flattering numbers. In takeaways per game, Brown would rank 7th among the Panthers this season. And his "heavy defensive deployment" means taking 56.4% of his faceoffs in the defensive zone. That's 6th among the Sens' forwards with at least 10 games played, and Formenton is 0.1% behind him.
In EV points, Brown is on pace to have 18 by the midpoint of the season (now). That would be 7 points shy of the 50th place in the league among forwards.

You're an Ottawa fan and it's okay to hype your players. I could dig stats to prove Gustav Forsling is a 1st-pair defenseman. That's what we do as fans.

lol it's okay you basically just proved my point. For some reason, you come back again with this season stats (small sample on a team that HEAVILY struggled for the first 20 games) when I explained to you that the stats I provided were about the last 2 seasons.

And for some reason you want to underrate Connor Brown's contributions. Nobody here did that for Panthers players, au contraire, I hyped them. Forsling too, I find he is excellent

You're acting like if there's a pissing match that doesn't even exist. Funny stuff.