Debrincat is not getting traded and if he were to, this sure as **** isn't getting it done

Hawks will require a higher pick and better prospects. Too far off. They'll simply keep him

Did you click on the wrong pick when making the trade or do you seriously believe *Logan Stanley* is worth a 2nd?

I can't see Chicago trading Debrincat.

I get that debrincat is a top goal scorer, and would be exactly what the jets need. But I doubt Chicago trades him to a division rival, if they did it would take more than this and at that point the jets should stay away. Try and look at another sniper. Maybe it’s time to entertain the return of laine.

I didn't know Alex DeBrincat was the second coming of McDavid lol. What do you propose his value is if Scheifele, Heinola and a 1st is so far off?

He's proven he's an elite goal scorer and just turned 24 years old a month ago. He's not McDavid but he's a top 10 player under 25 years old and a top 10 goal scorer in the league that happens to be on one of the best cap hits in the league with RFA status following expiration of his current contract.

It's easy to understand why the Hawks wouldn't want the centerpiece of the trade coming back to be Scheifele who's almost 29 years old and only 2 years remaining on his contract to a team that is more then 2 years away from competing; especially if Cat is gone. Then a middle 1st round pick, and a defensive prospect that looks promising but hasn't proven himself yet in the league. All in exchange to owning a kid's contractual rights for his career at this point, who's proven to be an elite goal scorer that just turned only 24 years old?

This trade isn't close

I won’t deny that cat is excellent, and a top goal scorer in the league. I don’t know much about his defensive play but that doesn’t really matter when you score as many as he does. I just think that you’re forgetting that scheifele has been consistently at a PPG over the last 6 years, sometimes over a PPG. He’s also a center which usually holds more value over wingers. I’d say cat and scheifele are close in value, but cat being younger and an RFA gives him the edge. Scheifele also is a consistent 30 goal scorer, at least 30 goal pace. This year is an anomaly, slow start (26 pts in 36 gp) after suspension and covid quarantine but picking it up.

Once again like I said before on this thread, it takes more than what’s proposed here to get cat considering it’s an inter divisional trade. I just don’t think it works for the jets to give up more than this. At that point you’re just creating more holes than you’re filling. Plus like you said timeline likely just doesn’t add up on the return for the hawks. Just not good trade partners here IMO.

Cat's age and being an RFA don't just give Cat a edge over Scheifle, it gives Cat substantial value over Scheifele. 2 more seasons of Sheifele at age 29 in another month or so versus an entire career of Cat who just turned 24 years old is simply not close to value.

If they were both the same age and both RFAs after next season, then you are right they are close, but the difference in contract situations and age is massive. Sheifele is already starting to enter the downward trend of his career arguably, or objectively will be soon. Cat is just getting started. In other words, look what Cat has produced since just turning 24 years old, Schiefele wasn't close at that age so there is an argument Cat has a lot more to offer in the future despite Schiefele's and Cat's on ice production at their peaks (so far for Cat) have been relatively close.

Put it simply, there is all upside with Cat and all downside with Sheifele at this point and a mid 1st and Heinola IMO don't make up the difference.

I guarantee you there’s a gm that would give up a second for Stanley

Well, it won't be Boston. If they acquire a 3rd pair D, it would be a right-handed dman.

Debrincat isn't getting traded, but if he does its Perfetti+