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Créé par: NewDG
Équipe: 2021-22 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 18 janv. 2022
Publié: 18 janv. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Wright, Shane
3925 000 $
Transactions
1.
MTL
  1. Kravtsov, Vitali
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (NYR)
NYR
  1. Chiarot, Ben (1 750 000 $ retained)
  2. Lehkonen, Artturi
2.
MTL
  1. Monahan, Sean
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (CGY)
3.
MTL
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (NSH)
NSH
  1. Weber, Shea
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (ANA)
  3. Choix de 6e ronde en 2022 (MTL)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2022
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2023
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2024
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2581 500 000 $72 350 391 $597 561 $2 325 000 $9 149 609 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AG
UFA - 3
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance537 500 $$538K)
C
UFA - 1
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 6
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG, AD
RFA - 1
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6 375 000 $6 375 000 $
C, AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
4 450 000 $4 450 000 $
C
UFA - 4
Wright, Shane
925 000 $925 000 $
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
750 000 $750 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
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880 833 $880 833 $ (Bonis de performance300 000 $$300K)
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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750 000 $750 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
917 831 $917 831 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
875 000 $875 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
2 343 750 $2 343 750 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
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2 875 000 $2 875 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance637 500 $$638K)
DG
RFA - 1
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
925 000 $925 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
750 000 $750 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
750 000 $750 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
761 250 $761 250 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
950 000 $950 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
950 000 $950 000 $
AG, AD, C
UFA - 1
Équipe de réserve
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
750 000 $750 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
G
UFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
750 000 $750 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
750 000 $750 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
AG, AD
UFA - 1

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18 janv. 2022 à 22 h 22
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You do realize draft is in Montreal this year and that any trades for first they will be demanding a 2022 pick right
18 janv. 2022 à 22 h 31
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Why does Nashville trade a 2nd round pick for a guy that may never play again?
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18 janv. 2022 à 22 h 32
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Yes but they secure 1 or the 3 first pick of 2022. The aim is Connor Bedard in 2023.
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18 janv. 2022 à 23 h 0
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Quoting: DaHabs
You do realize draft is in Montreal this year and that any trades for first they will be demanding a 2022 pick right


Quoting: NewDG
Yes but they secure 1 or the 3 first pick of 2022. The aim is Connor Bedard in 2023.


It's ok, neither of those teams are trading their firsts in those deals.
18 janv. 2022 à 23 h 33
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Why would montreal give Nashville a 3rd & 6th pick. We’re doing Nashville a Hugh solid because Nashville is on the hook for Weber’s contract Montreal gets a 2nd and Nashville gets Weber who retires and is bought out.
18 janv. 2022 à 23 h 50
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Flames arent doing that
18 janv. 2022 à 23 h 54
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All those teams decline
19 janv. 2022 à 0 h 30
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Quoting: Flynnster
Why would montreal give Nashville a 3rd & 6th pick. We’re doing Nashville a Hugh solid because Nashville is on the hook for Weber’s contract Montreal gets a 2nd and Nashville gets Weber who retires and is bought out.


Ok so there is some things that need to be laid out with this statement just to clarify for others who see it and repeat it.

First off, just to get this out of the way, that 2nd rounder is worth more than that 3rd and a 6th together. So just right there, the Habs are getting more than they lose here. Not that that's the point here but its just important to note.

Secondly, Weber's recapture penalty would be around 6M in cap for Nashville and 1.8M for MTL if Weber officially retires at seasons end. (The NHL amended a rule that changed the rule that would have resulted in Weber's cap hit penalty being like 27M/year to Weber's max AAV/year). While 6M would definitely suck for Nashville, they're currently 10M under the cap ceiling already this year and have historically been a team that does not spend all the way up to the cap anyway. (Unless they absolutely went for the cup) So the cap hit they would be hit with might not even affect their roster at all really as its currently constructed. In addition to that, Nashville is not actually paying any of Weber's recapture penalty so they are not paying any real money here. Only cap hit penalties but as I mentioned, this probably wouldn't affect them really.

Thirdly, Weber is still owed 6M in his contract and chances are he'll still want that money. His contract is insured so he will still receive most of that money as long as he doesn't officially retire. He has injuries bad enough that he can milk the rehab for like the rest of his contract if he really wanted to. No doctor is going to force him to play because its the team doctor that does the evaluation. So there isn't really a benefit to Weber retiring. He still gets his money, Nashville and Montreal don't get a cap penalty. Everyone's happy if he doesn't retire. If he retires, MTL and NSH get slapped with cap hit penalties and he forgoes that money remaining on his contract.

Now, with this all said, Weber DOES have value still. Just not really to Nashville anymore. Because Weber's contract has a high cap hit but low salary, teams who don't want to have to spend up to the cap floor every year, like Arizona, would be wise to acquire Weber and take him off LTIR and just keep him in the press box. This way they'll have 7.8M of cap helping them reach the cap floor but also not have to pay that much actual real money. They'd be paying 1M in actual money so that they don't HAVE to spend another 6.8M is actual money. Considering Arizona is having problems with cashflow, this would save them tons of money they'd have to spend to reach the cap floor every year.

Also Weber's contract will never be bought out. Its hurts the team buying him out more than it helps them. Its what people call a "buyout proof contract" so that will never happen.
19 janv. 2022 à 0 h 49
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What happened to Habs fans? Why are all your trade proposals so outrageous?

You want the Rangers to send a top prospect and a 1st for a good third liner and a expiring defenseman who is worth no more than a 2nd?\

With all due respect, Get a grip folks.
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