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Quoting: BatVader

We were so soft last year in front of the net, and we solved that with Dillon, extremely hard to play against. Not the time to get rid of that. I mean ideally we just move Copp, and retool. But that won’t happen so if we are going for it, try and get severson, and make a trade for a 2RW. I figured that might not be enough for severson, wonder how much more I need to add.

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10 janv. 2022 à 19 h 48

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Devils are already set up to have too many LD and not enough RD moving forward. This trade isn't a fit.

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10 janv. 2022 à 19 h 51

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Quoting: tsyls

Just guessing, but…Schmidt+Vesalainen/Nikkanen+Beaulieu+2nd/1st

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10 janv. 2022 à 19 h 52

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Not sure this is the year we should be pushing for a run. I think we will struggle to catch up and earn a WC spot. If we are to the point of just squeaking in, I don’t want to spend any assets to upgrade. I’d be fine doing a 1-1 swap to a position of need, Vesa for a RHS winger who is a another reclamation project for example.
I don’t mind the NJ trade as it really doesn’t take anything away prospect wise although I doubt Jersey does it. Schmidt just bought a house in Peg too, so that would suck for him lol.
Play Heinola, Perfetti and Gus, get them up to speed, hopefully sign Smith when his season is done (I believe we still have his rights 1 more season as he was a late college guy) and play them in playoffs.

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10 janv. 2022 à 20 h 1

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Quoting: jgimp69

hopefully sign Smith when his season is done (I believe we still have his rights 1 more season as he was a late college guy) and play them in playoffs.

Age-20 in draft year, so can elect free agency whenever he leaves school (once he informs central registry that he has unenrolled, Winnipeg would have 30 day exclusive window to sign him, then he becomes UFA if they don’t).

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10 janv. 2022 à 20 h 5

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Quoting: BatVader

Just guessing, but…Schmidt+Vesalainen/Nikkanen+Beaulieu+2nd/1st

I’d think 1st > Beaulieu and 2nd.

Probably all depends if Devils think they will re-sign Severson. I hope they do and have no reason to think they won’t. But if it came to “we can’t” I would think would want either an NHL d-man or shooter on the wings in return. A Schmidt/Vesalainen package potentially could provide both.

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10 janv. 2022 à 20 h 6

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I like the swagger and passion of a Schmidt, usually one of the first interviews with the team playing good bad or otherwise. I think samberg probably replaces Dillon at some point, and stanley probably doesn’t get higher than a third pair, so heinola/samberg/Dillon/morrissey decision needs to be made at some point. Morrissey probably wins on longterm contract and possibly samberg as Dillon replacement, I wonder if they are skilled enough to win being that small or going to have to change strategy and follow Montreal and tb lead and last years cup success.

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10 janv. 2022 à 20 h 28

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Quoting: NHLfan10506

I would think Schmidt would need to be included just for cap purposes

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10 janv. 2022 à 20 h 41

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Quoting: MellowK

Devils are already set up to have too many LD and not enough RD moving forward. This trade isn't a fit.

Fair enough man, I didn’t realize how well off NJ is for LD, I just thought with hamilton signing maybe they’d move severson.

10 janv. 2022 à 20 h 41

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Quoting: BatVader

I would think Schmidt would need to be included just for cap purposes

Devils have plenty of space, especially with Subban’s $9m coming off books and likely replaced by $925,000 Reilly Walsh. If Severson had to be moved, got a lot to work with there. So lots of flexibility on our end.

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10 janv. 2022 à 20 h 44

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Quoting: jgimp69

No I agree we likely don’t make playoffs and we should retool and look ahead to next year. I just know that’s not what management will do, so decided to have fun with it.

Also hope we can sign smith as well.

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10 janv. 2022 à 20 h 51

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Devils would want futures for Severson. 1st + prospect for Severson. And that is if they don't extend him

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10 janv. 2022 à 20 h 56

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Really, Schmidt bought a house in Winnipeg??

10 janv. 2022 à 20 h 59

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Quoting: MisstheWhalers

Really, Schmidt bought a house in Winnipeg??

As per Dave Minuk in Nates last media session

10 janv. 2022 à 21 h 2

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No offense but I wouldn't be a fan of these trades especially trading the 1st round pick.

I like Severson but the Jets seem like they're much further away then just adding a Severson type and Kessel, really hope Chevy and ownership can see this group isn't going to get it done as they're presently built and some bigger changes are needed.

I'll be shocked if they can scrape into the playoffs.

Has anyone heard if the trade deadline is going to be pushed back at all due to the postponed games prolonging the season??

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10 janv. 2022 à 21 h 5

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Quoting: jgimp69

As per Dave Minuk in Nates last media session

Damn, guess he isn't going anywhere for awhile then.

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10 janv. 2022 à 21 h 25

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Quoting: Devil1122

Devils would want futures for Severson. 1st + prospect for Severson. And that is if they don't extend him

I don’t think they would. Ideally they would get 20-23 year old players and a d-man if they are losing both Severson and Subban (and possibly Graves). Fitzy has said he has had enough picks, he wants guys Jack/Nicos age.

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10 janv. 2022 à 23 h 6

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Quoting: NHLfan10506

This is what I tried to base my trade off of. I figured they’d probably want a replacement dman, plus a younger winger with potential. I feel like something built around Schmidt + Vesalainen could be done. But who knows, I didn’t realize NJ was rich at the LHD position.

10 janv. 2022 à 23 h 7

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Quoting: MisstheWhalers

Damn, guess he isn't going anywhere for awhile then.

I don’t hate this, need players like Schmidt. Energy guy, can play in any situation and on either side. I feel like Dillon/DeMelo will be the dman moved.

10 janv. 2022 à 23 h 9

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Quoting: MisstheWhalers

No offense taken that you wouldn’t like any of these. Trust me I’d rather see the jets just retool and go for it next year. I just know they won’t and figured I might as well have some fun. Jets are definitely more than a Kessel and severson away from the playoffs.

As for the deadline, I have no idea, I think they’re going to put a bunch of games into the Olympic break and try to see where things shake out. But who knows.

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11 janv. 2022 à 13 h 42

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Quoting: tsyls

One guy I'd be willing to move the 1st for would be Toffoli, at least they'd get a couple to three runs out of him and if things aren't working out could probably still get a 2nd for him if they traded him.

Ultimately they need an overhaul, their 1st should be borderline untouchable and think it probably needs to be a bigger overhaul then we think it needs to be.

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11 janv. 2022 à 14 h 2

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Quoting: MisstheWhalers

Ultimately they need an overhaul, their 1st should be borderline untouchable and think it probably needs to be a bigger overhaul then we think it needs to be.

This is the thing that has always bothered me with the Jets current core. Other than the WCF run season, the Jets have always played basically the same. Below average PP & PK (I guess we can blame that on coaching?), not prepared to start a lot of games with the same intensity as opponent, almost always play down to the level of the opponent, or play their game. We've had some turnover in core and key guys in that time, yet not much improvement.

I'm willing to stay patient for a while yet and see if Lowry can change the tendencies of this team, but it sure looks as though some bigger changes than even we think as @missthewhalers said, are needed to start a different trajectory. Certainly frustrating.

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11 janv. 2022 à 17 h 56

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Quoting: Windjammer

This is the thing that has always bothered me with the Jets current core. Other than the WCF run season, the Jets have always played basically the same. Below average PP & PK (I guess we can blame that on coaching?), not prepared to start a lot of games with the same intensity as opponent, almost always play down to the level of the opponent, or play their game. We've had some turnover in core and key guys in that time, yet not much improvement.

I'm willing to stay patient for a while yet and see if Lowry can change the tendencies of this team, but it sure looks as though some bigger changes than even we think as missthewhalers said, are needed to start a different trajectory. Certainly frustrating.

Totally agree with both of you. It’s quite frustrating and literally insane doing the same thing over and over.

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12 janv. 2022 à 22 h 3

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