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Créé par: FuelYourJets
Équipe: 2021-22 Jets de Winnipeg
Date de création initiale: 19 déc. 2021
Publié: 20 déc. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Jets trade for Tanev and Appleton, to bring back some familiarity with the Jets systems and players. Jets offer a premium 1st rounder to get 50% retained from Tanev so that he's only at $1,750,000 Cap Hit against the salary until 2025. This is the tightest you could squeeze the Cap, but with these 22 players, you could make some serious noise this year and beyond. Paying to fit Tanev in at a friendly Cap for the next few years, would be totally worth it. With the Already 22 players near Cap and whatever plan after this summer, this could be financially close in plan and very plausible.
Transactions
1.
WPG
  1. Appleton, Mason (171 000 $ retained)
  2. Tanev, Brandon (1 750 000 $ retained)
SEA
  1. Toninato, Dominic
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2022 (WPG)
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (WPG)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (WPG)
2.
WPG
  1. Choix de 7e ronde en 2022 (OTT)
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2281 500 000 $81 498 646 $145 122 $0 $1 354 $

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7 142 857 $7 142 857 $
AG
UFA - 5
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6 125 000 $6 125 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
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M-NTC
UFA - 4
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750 000 $750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
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3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
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3 640 000 $3 640 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
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8 250 000 $8 250 000 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 3
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725 000 $725 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
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3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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729 000 $729 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
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725 000 $725 000 $
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UFA - 1
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6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
DG
UFA - 7
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5 950 000 $5 950 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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6 166 667 $6 166 667 $
G
UFA - 3
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3 900 000 $3 900 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
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5 875 000 $5 875 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
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750 000 $750 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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900 000 $900 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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725 000 $725 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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5 291 667 $5 291 667 $
C, AD
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UFA - 3

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20 déc. 2021 à 8 h 53
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Ottawa is not spending a draft pick on a pending UFA that would be no better than Victor Mete or Nick Holden.

Try again.
20 déc. 2021 à 9 h 44
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Seattle isn’t retaining 1.75 m for 4 years for a 1st. If we’ve learnt anything about retention over the past couple of years, it’s that it’s not cheap to get teams to retain over a long period. Would take more than that. Might as well just include beaulieu in that trade and and swap the 4th for a prospect.
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20 déc. 2021 à 9 h 49
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I don't see how making a bad trade by overpaying for a couple bottom 6 players helps the Jets and there's not enough incentive there for Seattle to retain that long.
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20 déc. 2021 à 10 h 0
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This hurts the Jets.
20 déc. 2021 à 10 h 8
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Seattle isn’t retaining 1.75 m for 4 years for a 1st. If we’ve learnt anything about retention over the past couple of years, it’s that it’s not cheap to get teams to retain over a long period. Would take more than that. Might as well just include beaulieu in that trade and and swap the 4th for a prospect.


It should be enough really or pretty close, one year of dumping Mark Staal took a 2nd and he made almost $6M, Tanev is a fan favorite for the Kraken though so doubt they'd move him.
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20 déc. 2021 à 10 h 58
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
It should be enough really or pretty close, one year of dumping Mark Staal took a 2nd and he made almost $6M, Tanev is a fan favorite for the Kraken though so doubt they'd move him.


1.75 million over 4 years is worse than 3 million for 1 year. Especially for a team like seattle who will look to improve over the next 3-4 years.

I just don’t think it makes a lot of sense from seattles standpoint. But also probably too much to give up on wpgs side.

Also is PLD the #1 C now? I think he’s the main piece going forward.
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20 déc. 2021 à 15 h 48
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1.75 million over 4 years is worse than 3 million for 1 year. Especially for a team like seattle who will look to improve over the next 3-4 years.

I just don’t think it makes a lot of sense from seattles standpoint. But also probably too much to give up on wpgs side.

Also is PLD the #1 C now? I think he’s the main piece going forward.


Tanev would totally be worth it. I figured it would be another pick or prospect, but I believe Picks would be more valuable to Seattle. So there could be a strong possibility Seattle might listen to ideas on this matter, if there are good valuable picks for them to move forward with. This also realistically fits, so there is a possibility. So the negotiating begins.

I was thinking of putting a 2023 4th instead of the 5th. So there would be a 1st, 2nd and 2023 4th and Toninato for Tanev at $1,750,000, and Appleton. Or Adding another 5th or 4th pick. So that one would be a 1st, 2nd and 5th and 4th/5th for Tanev at $1,750,000 and Appleton. These are obviously just suggestions for a middle ground and both teams would negotiate, but negotiating to getting Tanev at $1,750,000 for a few years would totally be worth it. GOOD PICKS for Seattle would be worth it.
Jets have their team set for the next few years with most of the Cap about to be signed and locked up, good top prospects ready, they could give up a few good future picks to negotiate with Seattle for a beneficial Trade for both teams.

People tryna downplay Tanev's game don't understand how underrated his 2 way game is, with the limited time he gets. He has a Career 88.3% PK, only 2 teams in the NHL are over that this year(Penguins and Hurricanes), and the other teams are 85.7% PK and under. On a struggling Jets Penalty teams at 70.6%, Tanev would help make the Jets a better team in all aspects of the game. Tanev also has a Career 93.1% oiSv% 5on5. In 325 Games he has 1082 hits with a Career Average 13.29 Ice time. Tanev gets SH Goals and Points too.

Tanev developed a lot with the Jets players, he understands the Jets player and their systems, he has a very good consistent game and would help make the Jets better. Appleton understands the Jets players and their systems too, was a huge part of the team last year too, also with a weaker Defense. Getting both Tanev and Appleton back would bring some strong familiarity and chemistry. It would boost the teams morale and overall help make the Jets a stronger team.

THIS is a very good idea that could realistically happen. Also for Dubois, if he can improve on his 42.7 FO%. Then yeah for sure, he could get more Faceoffs and more ice time during in game scenarios. I love Dubois, I've made many Trades on here with Laine and Roslovic for Dubois. I knew Dubois would be very good for the Jets. Like that was a good realistic possiblity, so is this trade. This would be a trade well worth negotiating.

As for the other comment regarding Sens and Jets Trade, yes there is a strong mutual friendship building that could be agreed upon, with Future Considerations included... Not much risk to pay for with going forward. Without Trading Beaulieu there is no room for 22 players, even with maximizing the retained amounts and getting Tanev at $1,750,000 and Appleton at $729,000. This is a powerful trade that is worth negotiating to make things happen.
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20 déc. 2021 à 20 h 2
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Tanev would totally be worth it. I figured it would be another pick or prospect, but I believe Picks would be more valuable to Seattle. So there could be a strong possibility Seattle might listen to ideas on this matter, if there are good valuable picks for them to move forward with. This also realistically fits, so there is a possibility. So the negotiating begins.

I was thinking of putting a 2023 4th instead of the 5th. So there would be a 1st, 2nd and 2023 4th and Toninato for Tanev at $1,750,000, and Appleton. Or Adding another 5th or 4th pick. So that one would be a 1st, 2nd and 5th and 4th/5th for Tanev at $1,750,000 and Appleton. These are obviously just suggestions for a middle ground and both teams would negotiate, but negotiating to getting Tanev at $1,750,000 for a few years would totally be worth it. GOOD PICKS for Seattle would be worth it.
Jets have their team set for the next few years with most of the Cap about to be signed and locked up, good top prospects ready, they could give up a few good future picks to negotiate with Seattle for a beneficial Trade for both teams.

People tryna downplay Tanev's game don't understand how underrated his 2 way game is, with the limited time he gets. He has a Career 88.3% PK, only 2 teams in the NHL are over that this year(Penguins and Hurricanes), and the other teams are 85.7% PK and under. On a struggling Jets Penalty teams at 70.6%, Tanev would help make the Jets a better team in all aspects of the game. Tanev also has a Career 93.1% oiSv% 5on5. In 325 Games he has 1082 hits with a Career Average 13.29 Ice time. Tanev gets SH Goals and Points too.

Tanev developed a lot with the Jets players, he understands the Jets player and their systems, he has a very good consistent game and would help make the Jets better. Appleton understands the Jets players and their systems too, was a huge part of the team last year too, also with a weaker Defense. Getting both Tanev and Appleton back would bring some strong familiarity and chemistry. It would boost the teams morale and overall help make the Jets a stronger team.

THIS is a very good idea that could realistically happen. Also for Dubois, if he can improve on his 42.7 FO%. Then yeah for sure, he could get more Faceoffs and more ice time during in game scenarios. I love Dubois, I've made many Trades on here with Laine and Roslovic for Dubois. I knew Dubois would be very good for the Jets. Like that was a good realistic possiblity, so is this trade. This would be a trade well worth negotiating.

As for the other comment regarding Sens and Jets Trade, yes there is a strong mutual friendship building that could be agreed upon, with Future Considerations included... Not much risk to pay for with going forward. Without Trading Beaulieu there is no room for 22 players, even with maximizing the retained amounts and getting Tanev at $1,750,000 and Appleton at $729,000. This is a powerful trade that is worth negotiating to make things happen.


Don’t disagree with a lot of what you said. Was never downplaying tanev in fact thought it would take more than this to acquire him with retention.

Think there’s definitely a trade to be made for tanev.
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20 déc. 2021 à 20 h 34
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Don’t disagree with a lot of what you said. Was never downplaying tanev in fact thought it would take more than this to acquire him with retention.

Think there’s definitely a trade to be made for tanev.


Yeah I know Tanev is a very versatile and valuable key piece on any team. Small error on the second paragraph, but I did say an extra pick. What I meant was a 1st, 2nd and 4th and adding a later pick like a 6th or 7th, along with Toninato for $1,750,000 retained from Tanev till 2025. Possibly even a 3rd, along with the 1st and 2nd with Toninato. This would be a powerful trade that will bring strong Familiarity and Chemistry to the Jets.
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20 déc. 2021 à 20 h 56
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Yeah I know Tanev is a very versatile and valuable key piece on any team. Small error on the second paragraph, but I did say an extra pick. What I meant was a 1st, 2nd and 4th and adding a later pick like a 6th or 7th, along with Toninato for $1,750,000 retained from Tanev till 2025. Possibly even a 3rd, along with the 1st and 2nd with Toninato. This would be a powerful trade that will bring strong Familiarity and Chemistry to the Jets.


I feel like you might as well just include beaulieu in the trade to seattle, they’re not cap strapped and taking beaulieu just causes less headaches for the Ottawa trade.

At that point you could also just take out the 4th and 6th and make it a 2nd.

Also as for Dubois, if he improves in the dot he could for sure be the 1C.

I miss tanev a lot, especially on the PK as he’s just a little buzz ball. Jets played a very strong game against St. Louis and I expect to see that continue. I think Lowry will be good, he’s tough and holds people accountable.
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20 déc. 2021 à 21 h 10
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I feel like you might as well just include beaulieu in the trade to seattle, they’re not cap strapped and taking beaulieu just causes less headaches for the Ottawa trade.

At that point you could also just take out the 4th and 6th and make it a 2nd.

Also as for Dubois, if he improves in the dot he could for sure be the 1C.

I miss tanev a lot, especially on the PK as he’s just a little buzz ball. Jets played a very strong game against St. Louis and I expect to see that continue. I think Lowry will be good, he’s tough and holds people accountable.


%100 percent agree with everything you said.

Also regarding Tanev... I wonder if he'll get so hyped up joining the Jets again that in his Seasonal picture, we'll see an even more hyped up crazied photo haha.
 
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