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Équipe: 2021-22 Predators de Nashville
Date de création initiale: 13 déc. 2021
Publié: 13 déc. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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SJS
  1. Svechkov, Fedor [Liste de réserve]
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (NSH)
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MTL
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (NSH)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (NSH)
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NSH
  1. Carter, Jeff
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If PIT falls out of contention
PIT
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (NSH)
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4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
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5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
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725 000 $725 000 $
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2 857 143 $2 857 143 $
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2 300 000 $2 300 000 $
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
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UFA - 1
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817 500 $817 500 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
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2 400 000 $2 400 000 $
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
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3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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733 333 $733 333 $
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1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
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1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
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M-NTC
UFA - 1
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
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13 déc. 2021 à 21 h 22
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nice trade, Sharks accept
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13 déc. 2021 à 21 h 42
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San Jose greatly needs Center depth in their prospect pool, I think they would take this
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13 déc. 2021 à 21 h 54
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nice trade, Sharks accept


Quoting: glarson17
San Jose greatly needs Center depth in their prospect pool, I think they would take this


It feels like a ton to give up for a rental (I don't see NSH attempting to re-sign Hertl), but it's the kind of return I'd want if NSH trades Forsberg.
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13 déc. 2021 à 22 h 6
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It feels like a ton to give up for a rental (I don't see NSH attempting to re-sign Hertl), but it's the kind of return I'd want if NSH trades Forsberg.


I get not wanting to give up this much for a rental, but the players who can be used as rentals are really good this year.
13 déc. 2021 à 22 h 20
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If the Pens somehow fall out of playoff contention, it will cost much more than a 3rd for Carter.. we would pretty much have to give that 3rd to LAK, since he will play 50+ games. I would think a 2nd+ or maybe just a 2nd would do it.
13 déc. 2021 à 22 h 33
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Pens aren’t selling Carter for less than they paid for him.
13 déc. 2021 à 22 h 49
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If the Pens somehow fall out of playoff contention, it will cost much more than a 3rd for Carter.. we would pretty much have to give that 3rd to LAK, since he will play 50+ games. I would think a 2nd+ or maybe just a 2nd would do it.


For what I was looking for here (a vet 4th line center with size and Finals experience), that's more than I'd want to spend. I could see a team wanting to play him higher in the lineup paying a 2nd though (especially if PIT retains, which NSH doesn't need them to). That 3rd going to LA is already a sunk cost though. PIT would have to pay that regardless of whether they trade Carter. A buyer shouldn't have to factor that into his value to them.

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Pens aren’t selling Carter for less than they paid for him.


PIT has already received a lot of the value from what they paid for Carter though (the salary retention from LA, and the use of the player himself). Anyone trading for Carter wouldn't be getting much of that, so shouldn't have to pay as much for less value.
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13 déc. 2021 à 23 h 8
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I really like the additions, but it just feels like a lot to give up when this team needs to be focusing on youth/picks.

I'd be hesitant to give up that much for a pure rental, but that top 6 looks great. Would Hertl fit this system though? I don't know enough about his game. And would they be able to sign him? I wonder. I know you said pure rental, but they might have the cap space to try. Matching 6 year deals at $7.5m for Forsberg and Hertl?

I like Carter, but I agree that I wouldn't go higher than a 3rd. A 2nd is too much. Maybe Brassard would fit? He doesn't have the size Carter has, but he has playoff experience and should be around a 3rd as well in terms of value.

I think that's fair for Chiarot and he would definitely bolster the 3rd pair, but I wonder if NSH needs to add a defenseman this year. Boro and Benning look better this season, and I like what I see from Myers when he actually plays. I don't want to lose so many picks for rentals, so maybe they just roll with what they have now into the playoffs and keep the two picks.
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13 déc. 2021 à 23 h 47
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I really like the additions, but it just feels like a lot to give up when this team needs to be focusing on youth/picks.

I'd be hesitant to give up that much for a pure rental, but that top 6 looks great. Would Hertl fit this system though? I don't know enough about his game. And would they be able to sign him? I wonder. I know you said pure rental, but they might have the cap space to try. Matching 6 year deals at $7.5m for Forsberg and Hertl?

I like Carter, but I agree that I wouldn't go higher than a 3rd. A 2nd is too much. Maybe Brassard would fit? He doesn't have the size Carter has, but he has playoff experience and should be around a 3rd as well in terms of value.

I think that's fair for Chiarot and he would definitely bolster the 3rd pair, but I wonder if NSH needs to add a defenseman this year. Boro and Benning look better this season, and I like what I see from Myers when he actually plays. I don't want to lose so many picks for rentals, so maybe they just roll with what they have now into the playoffs and keep the two picks.


I agree it's too much, and inadvisable. I just wanted to see how much I could bolster the lineup, without destroying the future completely.

I still think it's a bit too much for Hertl, but if Glass is ready for a middle six role next season, Svechkov isn't absolutely vital for the future. Maybe SJ sends back a 3rd or 4th with him, as NSH wouldn't need them to retain any salary like most contenders would? However, I don't see NSH re-signing Hertl for the kind of term he'd want, with the depth coming up on the right side (Tomasino, Evangelista, Afanasyev, Kunin).

Carter was just the first guy I thought of for the 4th line. PIT seems like a solid bet for a playoff spot, so it's not too likely anyway. Brassard is an interesting thought. Whoever it is, a 3rd is the max I'd want to pay for that role.

I'm not certain that offer for Chiarot doesn't get beat. I agree Boro and Benning have looked much better this year, and have more confidence in them as a 3rd pair than anyone else NSH has rolled out there the past few years. I don't have confidence in either of them being able to handle top four minutes though, if there's an injury. Chiarot is more of an insurance policy if something happens to one of the other defencemen, and means the Preds wouldn't have to dress Harpur if a LD goes down. I like what I've seen from Myers in his sporadic appearances too. Not sure he's ready for a full time role in the playoffs though, with how little he's played to date.

In the end, I agree the Preds should chance it with what they have, instead of spending this much on rentals. But with all the core players at the top of their games this season, I can't help but wonder what if...
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13 déc. 2021 à 23 h 47
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Sharks happily accept
14 déc. 2021 à 7 h 36
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Chiarot is for a 1st. He don’t want the 2+3

It could be chiarot half retained and 3rd for a 1st round pick. So it would be a early 3rd for a late first .

Chiarot half retained to move up 40 or so spots is fair
 
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