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Wilson Christmas Present - Dubas gift for Leafs fans

Créé par: yikes
Équipe: 2021-22 Sharks de San Jose
Date de création initiale: 16 nov. 2021
Publié: 16 nov. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
This is just a for fun post
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3925 000 $
Transactions
1.
ARI
  1. Chmelevski, Alexander
  2. Kniazev, Artemi
  3. Labanc, Kevin
  4. Vlasic, Marc-Édouard
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (SJS)
  6. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (SJS)
2.
SJS
  1. Alnefelt, Hugo
  2. Duke, Dylan [Liste de réserve]
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (TBL)
  4. Choix de 5e ronde en 2023 (TBL)
TBL
  1. Émond, Zacharie
  2. Hertl, Tomas (2 812 500 $ retained)
  3. Merkley, Nick
Détails additionnels:
Detroit retains 1.4etc million (50%) on top, giving Tampa Hertl for a 1.4m cap hit.
3.
SJS
DET
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2022 (BUF)
  2. Choix de 7e ronde en 2022 (ARI)
  3. Choix de 5e ronde en 2023 (TBL)
4.
SJS
  1. Tarasenko, Vladimir (2 000 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
After DET TBL SJS combine for a three way, SJ jumps in a three way as the broker for retention on Tarasenko to grab a nice asset for their help.
STL
5.
SJS
  1. Amirov, Rodion
  2. Hirvonen, Roni [Liste de réserve]
  3. Holl, Justin
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (TOR)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (TOR)
TOR
  1. Tarasenko, Vladimir (2 750 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
*if the Leafs somehow miss the playoffs they can opt. to change their pick to 2023 (top 5 protected) and keep the 2022 pick*
6.
SJS
    SJS keeps Roni here but could be the 2nd or something else blah blah
    STL
    1. Amirov, Rodion
    2. Holl, Justin
    3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (TOR)
    4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (TOR)
    Rachats de contrats
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    2024
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    2681 500 000 $64 282 863 $0 $590 000 $17 217 137 $
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    C
    M-NTC
    UFA - 6
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    3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 2
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    925 000 $925 000 $
    AG
    RFA - 5
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    842 500 $842 500 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
    C
    UFA - 2
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    C, AG
    RFA - 3
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    AD, AG
    UFA - 1
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    C, AG
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
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    AG, AD
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    UFA - 2
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    C
    UFA - 2
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    866 667 $866 667 $
    AD
    RFA - 4
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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    925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
    DG
    UFA - 1
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    5 280 000 $5 280 000 $
    DD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 4
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    2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
    G
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
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    725 000 $725 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 1
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    10 000 000 $10 000 000 $
    DD
    NMC
    UFA - 6
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    2 175 000 $2 175 000 $
    G
    UFA - 2
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    850 833 $850 833 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
    DG
    RFA - 3
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    796 667 $796 667 $
    DG/DD
    UFA - 1
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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    783 333 $783 333 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 1
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    2 108 696 $2 108 696 $
    AG, AD
    NMC
    UFA - 1
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    925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
    AG, AD
    UFA - 1
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    850 000 $850 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
    6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
    AG, AD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Sharks de San Jose
    500 000 $500 000 $
    AG
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Sharks de San Jose
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    UFA - 3

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    16 nov. 2021 à 17 h 27
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    NotJimBenning
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    It is EXTREMELY difficult to do three-way trades in CF due to the interface, I wish they would add that function. I like the thinking with this one. Good job!
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    16 nov. 2021 à 17 h 31
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    The Blues have zero use for Holl, which means that offer is all futures, which means there's no chance the Blues do it.
    16 nov. 2021 à 17 h 44
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    Quoting: mokumboi
    The Blues have zero use for Holl, which means that offer is all futures, which means there's no chance the Blues do it.


    I mean to be frank - idk how Amirov, 1st, 2nd (or Roni) isnt futures... Holl is literally just cap purposes, you could flip if necessary but he also is not a bad piece. So I don't see your point. Because Amirov is a great prospect not a whatever prospect, Roni is the same (or the 2nd as I said), and the first (which is also flexed for 2023). I mean you could def ask for something other than the 2nd but I don't see many teams paying more than the;

    A prospect (Amirov)
    B prospect (Roni)
    2nd
    1st
    useful roster player (that moves for cap purposes)

    I sent the Blues the 2023 2nd because that could be more enticing but as I said, it could be Amirov, Roni H, 1st, Holl instead of the 2nd it could be change to more future assets/ prospects but that just gets complicated.

    You could do;

    Amirov
    Roni
    1st
    SDA

    and SJS gets a couple 3rds or something but Amirov is a solid centerpiece.
    16 nov. 2021 à 17 h 47
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    What the heck is this Arizona trade
    16 nov. 2021 à 17 h 48
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    Quoting: glarson17
    What the heck is this Arizona trade


    getting rid of Vlasic? p simple
    16 nov. 2021 à 17 h 51
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    getting rid of Vlasic? p simple


    By giving our top D prospect, another prospect, two seconds and labanc? Just buy him out, that is a ridiculous loss for the sharks.
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    16 nov. 2021 à 17 h 54
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    Modifié 16 nov. 2021 à 18 h 1
    Quoting: glarson17
    By giving our top D prospect, another prospect, two seconds and labanc? Just buy him out, that is a ridiculous loss for the sharks.


    have you seen the Vlasic buyout? It's part of why Vlasic has arguably the worst contract in the league. Hes dead weight. Labanc has been in the dog house for almost 2 years even if he plays decent. We've got younger better players coming up - Kniazev is not our top D prospect just because he had a great camp lol. Chmelevski is worth moving and 2 2nds to keep a first instead is pretty good.

    I dont think people realize Vlasic will not cost a 1st, prospect to move. And it is much worse to buy him out.

    Labanc - we'd only see two seconds max if we traded him so nothing crazy
    Chmelevski - running out of time and worth changing scenery if it means not touching our other prospects
    two seconds - we actually dont lose a first
    Kniazev - a better prospect than Chmelevski would be required

    So basically 4 seconds and two prospects to move Vlasic in my eyes; is a steal.

    Ferraro, Dahlen, Knyzhov, Middleton need new contracts, so will our goalies - so will Eklund Balcers and Barabanov... resign, regardless of this post, Hertl - yeah we still need money

    Quoting: mokumboi
    I feel like you misunderstood. I said the offer IS all futures, which is the problem. The Blues are not trading Tarasenko without getting back something that helps them now.

    As for Holl, the Blues have no use for him. They are all full up on RDs.


    My bad! I felt like Amirov is super enticing for the Blues tho. I think he could play within two years if he trends upwards.
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    16 nov. 2021 à 17 h 56
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    Quoting: yikes
    I mean to be frank - idk how Amirov, 1st, 2nd (or Roni) isnt futures... Holl is literally just cap purposes, you could flip if necessary but he also is not a bad piece. So I don't see your point. Because Amirov is a great prospect not a whatever prospect, Roni is the same (or the 2nd as I said), and the first (which is also flexed for 2023). I mean you could def ask for something other than the 2nd but I don't see many teams paying more than the;

    A prospect (Amirov)
    B prospect (Roni)
    2nd
    1st
    useful roster player (that moves for cap purposes)

    I sent the Blues the 2023 2nd because that could be more enticing but as I said, it could be Amirov, Roni H, 1st, Holl instead of the 2nd it could be change to more future assets/ prospects but that just gets complicated.

    You could do;

    Amirov
    Roni
    1st
    SDA

    and SJS gets a couple 3rds or something but Amirov is a solid centerpiece.



    I feel like you misunderstood. I said the offer IS all futures, which is the problem. The Blues are not trading Tarasenko without getting back something that helps them now.

    As for Holl, the Blues have no use for him. They are all full up on RDs.
    16 nov. 2021 à 18 h 4
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    Quoting: glarson17
    By giving our top D prospect, another prospect, two seconds and labanc? Just buy him out, that is a ridiculous loss for the sharks.


    I’ll be honest with you, it might look like a lot to you but there’s no chance Arizona does this deal without a 1st in there. That deal is so bad for so long there’s no way they’re doing it for 2nds and a top d prospect, even with lebanc
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    16 nov. 2021 à 18 h 6
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    Quoting: Yotes269
    I’ll be honest with you, it might look like a lot to you but there’s no chance Arizona does this deal without a 1st in there. That deal is so bad for so long there’s no way they’re doing it for 2nds and a top d prospect, even with lebanc


    Just felt like Arizona should collect about 20 seconds 💪💪
    Lmao
    16 nov. 2021 à 18 h 12
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    Quoting: glarson17
    By giving our top D prospect, another prospect, two seconds and labanc? Just buy him out, that is a ridiculous loss for the sharks.

    Vlasic might take more than that to dump imo

    Quoting: mokumboi
    I feel like you misunderstood. I said the offer IS all futures, which is the problem. The Blues are not trading Tarasenko without getting back something that helps them now.

    As for Holl, the Blues have no use for him. They are all full up on RDs.


    we could keep Holl and offer up Knyzhov then!
    we will need a RD prospect anyways!
    16 nov. 2021 à 18 h 15
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    this is a solid idea! i like it
    few hopeful items though!
    I think Vlasic might retire this offseason!
    he is seeing his playing time slip away and he will eventually be a healthy scratch by seasons end!
    but if he intends on playing out his deal this is the best case senario to free ourselves of his deal.
    i would also like to see us trade Bonino if Bordeleau is going to make the team otherwise keep him till Bordeleau is ready to take the 3C spot on our lineup.
    the RW 2nd 3rd and 4 th line spots will be Robins Coe and Weisblatt sooner than later with Meier locked in now on the right side with Eklund Dahlin Balcers and Barabanov on the right plus we have Gushin and Raska looking to break into the lineup sooner or later
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    16 nov. 2021 à 18 h 38
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    Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
    we could keep Holl and offer up Knyzhov then!
    we will need a RD prospect anyways!


    Holl is 29 tho lol
    16 nov. 2021 à 18 h 39
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    Holl is 29 tho lol


    I'm just spit balling here trying to make things work.
    16 nov. 2021 à 19 h 23
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    Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
    Vlasic might take more than that to dump imo


    we could keep Holl and offer up Knyzhov then!
    we will need a RD prospect anyways!


    Quoting: yikes
    have you seen the Vlasic buyout? It's part of why Vlasic has arguably the worst contract in the league. Hes dead weight. Labanc has been in the dog house for almost 2 years even if he plays decent. We've got younger better players coming up - Kniazev is not our top D prospect just because he had a great camp lol. Chmelevski is worth moving and 2 2nds to keep a first instead is pretty good.

    I dont think people realize Vlasic will not cost a 1st, prospect to move. And it is much worse to buy him out.

    Labanc - we'd only see two seconds max if we traded him so nothing crazy
    Chmelevski - running out of time and worth changing scenery if it means not touching our other prospects
    two seconds - we actually dont lose a first
    Kniazev - a better prospect than Chmelevski would be required

    So basically 4 seconds and two prospects to move Vlasic in my eyes; is a steal.

    Ferraro, Dahlen, Knyzhov, Middleton need new contracts, so will our goalies - so will Eklund Balcers and Barabanov... resign, regardless of this post, Hertl - yeah we still need money



    My bad! I felt like Amirov is super enticing for the Blues tho. I think he could play within two years if he trends upwards.


    If it seriously takes that much to dump him then just scratch him, the sharks can’t afford to give up all these assets. I’m fine with moving labanc, he has value, and simek, who might take a small sweetener, for cap space. That’s $7 mil there off the books.
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    16 nov. 2021 à 19 h 37
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    Still don’t know if Tampa can afford that even at only 25% of his contract. They might have to sideline a guy like perry to be able to get that 1.25 free
     
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