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Flames and Gaudreau decline that trade

18 oct. 2021 à 7 h 33

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Flames are not trading Gaudreau and a pick to a division rival for Yamamoto+Benson+what is allegedly the 32nd overall pick. That offer is trash.

18 oct. 2021 à 7 h 36

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Flames are not trading Gaudreau and a pick to a division rival for Yamamoto+Benson+what is allegedly the 32nd overall pick. That offer is trash.

Offer is trash 2 firsts and a second for a pending ufa? Umm I think that’s rather generous.

18 oct. 2021 à 7 h 36

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Flame decline, And even adding Gaudreau and MAF Edmonton is still nowhere near a cup team.

18 oct. 2021 à 7 h 48

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Offer is trash 2 firsts and a second for a pending ufa? Umm I think that’s rather generous.

You're also taking that 2nd of Flames which renders Benson pointless - not that he's even worth the 2nd rounder anyway. And Yamamoto+1st is not equivalent to Gaudreau. Don't think you would've last year accepted a trade offer involving Dube+1st for RNH before he was re-signed. Gaudreau is a step up from that when it comes to value.

18 oct. 2021 à 7 h 56

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No wouldn’t have accepted that because signing nuge was a priority and was in a playoff spot.. If Calgary wants to sign Jonny so be it work out a deal with him and have back in a flames jersey to start next year there is no commitment being offered to Jonny by Edmonton strictly a rental. Don’t even care if the agent and team continue extension talks while he’s playing.

18 oct. 2021 à 8 h 20

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mcdavid would need to score 3 points a game in the playoffs to win with that defence

18 oct. 2021 à 9 h 19

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mcdavid would need to score 3 points a game in the playoffs to win with that defence

Well I don’t think the d is all that bad it’s certainly not a strength to the team but solid goaltending and very deep productive forward group who also has strong two way players to help the d. Foegele Ryan Hyman jp nuge shore can all provide the d with serous support. Should be fine for a deep run and once your in anything can happen.

18 oct. 2021 à 9 h 27

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The d is very bad

18 oct. 2021 à 9 h 42

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The d is very bad

Well that’s a productive statement. Maybe a little insight to who’s soo bad next time. Nurse is a solid number one capable of insane amount of ice time. Barrie lead all d in points last year and was pretty solid defensively last years playoffs. Bouchard has been showing any concerns of him defensively are unwarranted as he’s been killing penalties already. Keith and ceci just joined the team and have been looking better with each game as they get use to the structure. The only guy could have concerns about health is Russell who is resting in press box.

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18 oct. 2021 à 9 h 45

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Do we really need paragraphs as to why the oilers defence is bad? They have a bunch of bad defenders, thats pretty much it. One of the worst defensive cores in the nhl for years and they made it even worse by adding ceci and keith and getting rid of bear.

18 oct. 2021 à 13 h 44

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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy

Flames and Gaudreau decline that trade

I wouldn't trade Yamamoto straight across for Gaudreau, who is a perennial playoff underperformer. Oiler need playoff studs.

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18 oct. 2021 à 14 h 42

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I wouldn't trade Yamamoto straight across for Gaudreau, who is a perennial playoff underperformer. Oiler need playoff studs.

Jonny has underperformed in past playoffs with the expectation on providing primary scoring. With this deal he comes in to help complement jp. With most of the focus being on Leon and mcdavid that should open them up easier match ups to provide secondary scoring.

18 oct. 2021 à 14 h 48

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Offer is trash 2 firsts and a second for a pending ufa? Umm I think that’s rather generous.

Too generous IMO. I don't think Gaudreau is worth that. Besides, he tends to disappear in the playoffs, so I'd find a more substantial player to rent. Filip Forsberg, for instance.

18 oct. 2021 à 14 h 55

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I wouldn't trade Yamamoto straight across for Gaudreau, who is a perennial playoff underperformer. Oiler need playoff studs.

Past 2 seasons, at 5v5:
Gaudreau: 126, 22-35-57 [0.45 P/GP]
Yamamoto: 79, 14-24-38 [0.48 P/GP]

Contracts:
Gaudreau: $6.75M x 1, UFA
Yamamoto: $1.175M x 1, RFA

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18 oct. 2021 à 18 h 17

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I wouldn't trade Yamamoto straight across for Gaudreau, who is a perennial playoff underperformer. Oiler need playoff studs.

You're tripping

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You're tripping

Not sure what you expect to get for him at the trade deadline; but it won't be as good as Yams, a 1st and Benson. You are right though; Gaudreau probably declines so he doesn't have to participate in the playoffs.

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19 oct. 2021 à 17 h 15

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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy

You're tripping

Then you missed this:

Past 2 seasons, at 5v5:
Gaudreau: 126, 22-35-57 [0.45 P/GP]
Yamamoto: 79, 14-24-38 [0.48 P/GP]

Contracts:
Gaudreau: $6.75M x 1, UFA
Yamamoto: $1.175M x 1, RFA

19 oct. 2021 à 18 h 12

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Then you missed this:

Past 2 seasons, at 5v5:
Gaudreau: 126, 22-35-57 [0.45 P/GP]
Yamamoto: 79, 14-24-38 [0.48 P/GP]

Contracts:
Gaudreau: $6.75M x 1, UFA
Yamamoto: $1.175M x 1, RFA

To be fair nearly half that production from yam was catching lightening in bottle. He needs to find a way to be more consistent.

19 oct. 2021 à 18 h 39

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Then you missed this:

Past 2 seasons, at 5v5:
Gaudreau: 126, 22-35-57 [0.45 P/GP]
Yamamoto: 79, 14-24-38 [0.48 P/GP]

Contracts:
Gaudreau: $6.75M x 1, UFA
Yamamoto: $1.175M x 1, RFA

No i didnt, he had a great rookie season of like 25 games being carried by Draisaitl. Dube could uave put up those points in that scenario. Last year was more realistic of what he is. Gaudreau will probably have double Yams points this year

20 oct. 2021 à 8 h 12

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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy

Mostly due to powerplay time I reckon. But the fact that Gaudreau is a $6.75M UFA and Yamamoto is a $1.175M RFA means that Yamamoto has more value - especially since Edmonton just threw over $88M at LW's in the offseason.

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