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Kravtsov to SJS

Créé par: Mursu
Date de création initiale: 17 oct. 2021
Publié: 17 oct. 2021
Équipe: 2021-22 Rangers de New York
Explications
Fair trade SJS?
Pajuniemi is on the 3rd because I really like him and see him as the perfect slot in for the Rangers on the 3rd.
Yes Strome is worth a 1st, don't kid yourself saying he isn't

If you disagree with this trade, let me know in the comments (also there is a reason none of are the actual GM of any team, so don't get heated).
Transactions
1.
NYR
  1. 2023 1e round pick (OTT)
  2. 2022 7e round pick (NYI)
OTT
  1. Strome, Ryan
2.
NYR
  1. Hertl, Tomas
SJS
  1. Kravtsov, Vitali
  2. Reunanen, Tarmo
  3. Brodzinski, Jonny
  4. 2023 1e round pick (OTT)
  5. 2024 2e round pick (NYR)
  6. 2022 4e round pick (WPG)
3.
NYR
  1. 2024 5e round pick (ARI)
ARI
  1. Hájek, Libor
Rachats de contrats
  • Henrik Lundqvist: 1 500 000 $
  • Kevin Shattenkirk: 1 433 333 $
  • Dan Girardi: 1 111 111 $
  • Anthony Deangelo: 383 334 $
  • Brad Richards: 0 $
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2022
NYR
NYR
STL
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYI
2023
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
2024
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
ARI
NYR
NYR
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $73 025 219 $0 $7 632 500 $8 474 781 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
NYR
Lafrenière, Alexis
925 000 $
AG
RFA - 2
NYR
Zibanejad, Mika
5 350 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 1
NYR
Kreider, Chris
6 500 000 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 6
NYR
Panarin, Artemi
11 642 857 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 5
SJS
Hertl, Tomas
5 625 000 $
C, AD
NTC
UFA - 1
NYR
Kakko, Kaapo
925 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
NYR
Goodrow, Barclay
3 641 667 $
AG, C, AD
NTC
UFA - 6
NYR
Chytil, Filip
2 300 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
NYR
Pajuniemi, Lauri
883 750 $
AD
RFA - 2
NYR
Blais, Samuel
1 500 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
NYR
Rooney, Kevin
750 000 $
AG, C, AD
UFA - 1
NYR
Reaves, Ryan
1 750 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
NYR
Lindgren, Ryan
3 000 000 $
DG
RFA - 3
NYR
Fox, Adam
925 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
NYR
Shesterkin, Igor
5 666 667 $
G
UFA - 4
NYR
Miller, K'Andre
925 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
NYR
Trouba, Jacob
8 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 5
NYR
Georgiev, Alexandar
2 425 000 $
G
RFA - 1
NYR
Nemeth, Patrik
2 500 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 3
NYR
Lundkvist, Nils
925 000 $
DD
RFA - 3
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
NYR
Hunt, Dryden
762 500 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
NYR
Gauthier, Julien
775 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
NYR
Tinordi, Jarred
900 000 $
DG
UFA - 2

Unités spéciales

Avantage numérique 1
Panarin, A.
Hertl, T.
Kreider, C.
Zibanejad, M.
Fox, A.
Avantage numérique 2
Lafrenière, A.
Chytil, F.
Kakko, K.
Pajuniemi, L.
Lundkvist, N.
Infériorité numérique 1
Goodrow, B.
Rooney, K.
Lindgren, R.
Fox, A.
Infériorité numérique 2
Zibanejad, M.
Kakko, K.
Miller, K.
Trouba, J.

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17 oct. à 23 h 53
#1
Ragsandbluesfan
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Hes worth a 1st but not Ottawa's 1st
17 oct. à 23 h 53
#2
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Kravtsov and the first is more than enough
Mursu et sensibleguy a aimé ceci.
17 oct. à 23 h 54
#3
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
Hes worth a 1st but not Ottawa's 1st


Well think Ottawa = insert team name here
17 oct. à 23 h 56
#4
Ragsandbluesfan
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
Kravtsov and the first is more than enough


Rest is filler besides the 2nd really
17 oct. à 23 h 58
#5
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
Rest is filler besides the 2nd really


A tier prospect
B tier prospect
Depth player
1st
2nd
4th

wouldn't call it filler but hey if it makes it work it makes it work
18 oct. à 0 h 0
#6
STL
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
Kravtsov and the first is more than enough


Agreed, Kravtsov and OTT 1st is plenty
Mursu a aimé ceci.
18 oct. à 0 h 2
#7
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Quoting: jwg314
Agreed, Kravtsov and OTT 1st is plenty


If Hertl were that cheap, I would pull the trigger on it, but I want to give SJS a few pieces they can work with (Tarmo and a few extra picks) to make the SJS fans happy
18 oct. à 0 h 3
#8
Ragsandbluesfan
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Quoting: Mursu
A tier prospect
B tier prospect
Depth player
1st
2nd
4th

wouldn't call it filler but hey if it makes it work it makes it work


Idk if Reunanen is B-tier, also Brdozinski isn't depth hes an AHL'er
18 oct. à 0 h 3
#9
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Quoting: Mursu
If Hertl were that cheap, I would pull the trigger on it, but I want to give SJS a few pieces they can work with (Tarmo and a few extra picks) to make the SJS fans happy


That's a potential top prospect and potential lottery pick. SJS would take that for sure.
Mursu a aimé ceci.
18 oct. à 0 h 4
#10
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The trade itself is a crazy overpay, but it could easily blow up in NYR's face depending on his extension and Fox's extension.

Ultimately I just don't think it's worth it. In my opinion, stick with Strome, or go with Chytil. I'm not saying Hertl sucks by any means, but I struggle to see how him and his likely 7million dollar cap hit - that will likely see one of Lafreniere, Kakko, or Miller to be lost - will be better than the current "Bread and Butter" chemistry we have. Strome should come in at 5million maximum on his next deal. Otherwise we give the reigns to Chytil. It's just too tight with the cap hit to do this, unless some seriously drastic/impossible measures are made
Mursu a aimé ceci.
18 oct. à 0 h 6
#11
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Quoting: mvp13
The trade itself is a crazy overpay, but it could easily blow up in NYR's face depending on his extension and Fox's extension.

Ultimately I just don't think it's worth it. In my opinion, stick with Strome, or go with Chytil. I'm not saying Hertl sucks by any means, but I struggle to see how him and his likely 7million dollar cap hit - that will likely see one of Lafreniere, Kakko, or Miller to be lost - will be better than the current "Bread and Butter" chemistry we have. Strome should come in at 5million maximum on his next deal. Otherwise we give the reigns to Chytil. It's just too tight with the cap hit to do this, unless some seriously drastic/impossible measures are made


I agree with you just playing around with a few ideas
18 oct. à 0 h 7
#12
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Quoting: jwg314
Agreed, Kravtsov and OTT 1st is plenty


Has any rental in nhl history fetched such a price?
18 oct. à 0 h 7
#13
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
Rest is filler besides the 2nd really


Sue. It’s an overpay
18 oct. à 0 h 8
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
Idk if Reunanen is B-tier, also Brdozinski isn't depth hes an AHL'er


Tarmo is a B-Tier prospect no sugar coating it but a talented one at that, ill admit
18 oct. à 0 h 8
#15
Quaaludes
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This is an easy no
18 oct. à 0 h 8
#16
STL
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
Has any rental in nhl history fetched such a price?


No, I think it's more than generous.
18 oct. à 0 h 9
#17
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Quoting: gary_bettman
This is an easy no


You're out of your mind.
Mursu a aimé ceci.
18 oct. à 0 h 9
#18
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Quoting: Mursu
I agree with you just playing around with a few ideas


Gotchyah, no problem!

If NYR manage to get Fox on a smaller AAV deal than most people generally expect, it's possible it could work out. But he's probably gonna get the 9+mil, and it's even tight to keep Strome's 5mil after that
Mursu a aimé ceci.
18 oct. à 0 h 9
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Quoting: gary_bettman
This is an easy no


I knew I was waiting for this comment! What would you like give a realistic answer please
18 oct. à 0 h 10
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Quoting: Mursu
A tier prospect
B tier prospect
Depth player
1st
2nd
4th

wouldn't call it filler but hey if it makes it work it makes it work


Who's the A tiered prospect? I don’t see one.
18 oct. à 0 h 11
#21
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Quoting: mvp13
The trade itself is a crazy overpay, but it could easily blow up in NYR's face depending on his extension and Fox's extension.

Ultimately I just don't think it's worth it. In my opinion, stick with Strome, or go with Chytil. I'm not saying Hertl sucks by any means, but I struggle to see how him and his likely 7million dollar cap hit - that will likely see one of Lafreniere, Kakko, or Miller to be lost - will be better than the current "Bread and Butter" chemistry we have. Strome should come in at 5million maximum on his next deal. Otherwise we give the reigns to Chytil. It's just too tight with the cap hit to do this, unless some seriously drastic/impossible measures are made


Also true. No way in hell NYR can afford to extend Hertl and Fox.
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18 oct. à 0 h 11
#22
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Quoting: mvp13
Gotchyah, no problem!

If NYR manage to get Fox on a smaller AAV deal than most people generally expect, it's possible it could work out. But he's probably gonna get the 9+mil, and it's even tight to keep Strome's 5mil after that


Just make deals where the AAV hit goes growing past 2024 (with the CBA coming to an end) in a post-covid world the salary cap should shoot up so that is possible to make it work
18 oct. à 0 h 11
#23
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Quoting: Mursu
I knew I was waiting for this comment! What would you like give a realistic answer please


Don't even humor him.
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18 oct. à 0 h 14
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Quoting: glarson17
Who's the A tiered prospect? I don’t see one.


Kravtsov is an A tier prospect if you disagree with that then I presume your A tier prospects are (my S tier prospects) generational talents (such as Laf, Kaapo, Stutzle, etc). A tier prospects are prospects with a top 6 ceilings, but who will not turn into Crosby or McDavid.

A tier prospects have a ceiling similar to Barzal, Strome, Eberle, Kreider, etc.
18 oct. à 0 h 20
#25
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Quoting: Mursu
Kravtsov is an A tier prospect if you disagree with that then I presume your A tier prospects are (my S tier prospects) generational talents (such as Laf, Kaapo, Stutzle, etc). A tier prospects are prospects with a top 6 ceilings, but who will not turn into Crosby or McDavid.

A tier prospects have a ceiling similar to Barzal, Strome, Eberle, Kreider, etc.


Your argument was fine until you included Barzal in that group.
 
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