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Créé par: Poehling
Équipe: 2022-23 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 4 oct. 2021
Publié: 4 oct. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Breaking down this trade :

Toronto gets better short terms
Montreal gets better long terms

Price + Gallagher = Marner + Amirov
Mrazek and Kerfoot holds value but they need to send money back. MTL send a young C in Poehling who could take a roster spot

This is IF MTL misses the playoffs AND Toronto loses again in the first round and Marner still struggling to score in the postseason
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4 oct. 2021 à 18 h 27
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Quoting: Oodz
Bruh what? U think gallagher is worth more than marner? Ur acc wild lmao


How are Sandin a 1st and 2nd worth more than Romy Zuke and 1st? Zuke gets 2 1st and a 2nd on his own Romy another 1st and a 1st on top of all that is what we were equating Marner to. Marner = 4 1sts + 2nd in this scenario. I had Gally at Sandin + 1st and 2nd that is literally a good prospect + 1st + 2nd nowhere near 4 1sts +. Come on try to keep up.
4 oct. 2021 à 18 h 54
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Quoting: BigDaddyOvech
Why is Rantanen the comparison? he doesn't kill penalties. Marner does. They both play with elite centres and both had similar in points which puts them in top 10 of point producers. The only person in top 10 who's even close to playing as much SH time as Marner is Marchand but otherwise none of the top point producers kill penalties. So, ya Marner is elite and I'm happy he's a leaf.


Want to do Landeskog then again he took a discount but isn't worth more than 8-9 Mil so 1-2 mil less than Marners contract. Puts up the same numbers and kills penalties and is also elite. I wasn't the one proposing to trade Marner just commented on why it was bad for Montreal. I also didn't mean for it to sound like I was saying Marner was as severely overpaid as Price cause he isn't just that the package leaving Montreal is creating more holes that we don't need. Prise is at least 3 times better than Mrazek, Kerfoot is not needed as he would be relegated to the 4th line, Amirov is a good prospect but not on a team so deep at wing for so long and Marner is an upgrade on much of what we have but the difference between Marner and Gallagher is about the difference between Marner and Nylander. Yes Marner is an upgrade but not one we really are in dire need of doing since we need a top pairing D man or top 6 center more.
4 oct. 2021 à 21 h 44
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
Price was awful in the regular season and the Habs had one more non-OT win than the two worst teams in the division and only 4 more points than the team behind them. He was a big reason why they were fighting to make the playoffs till the end.


Price only sucked the past regular season, the other regular season the team wasn’t helping him
4 oct. 2021 à 21 h 45
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Quoting: palhal
Leafs are far better having Mrzaek, Marner and Kerfoot at 18,5m than Gallagher and Price at 17m.
Plus Poehling has shown he is NHLer except for one game. Amirov has much more upside than Poehling.


Price Gallagher in the playoffs or Marner Mrazek Kerfoot … you can’t be serious you take the 2nd choice
4 oct. 2021 à 21 h 51
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Price only sucked the past regular season, the other regular season the team wasn’t helping him


Price has been, at best, mediocre in the past 4 regular seasons
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4 oct. 2021 à 22 h 6
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
Price has been, at best, mediocre in the past 4 regular seasons


Only statistically
Like Gibson
The goalies aren’t bad suddenly, they just can’t carry the team always
4 oct. 2021 à 22 h 7
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Quoting: Poehling
Only statistically
Like Gibson
The goalies aren’t bad suddenly, they just can’t carry the team always


and sometimes they're just bad.
Like Price.
Goalies are quiet often bad suddenly and that means they cant carry a team any more.
4 oct. 2021 à 22 h 8
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Quoting: Campabee
How are Sandin a 1st and 2nd worth more than Romy Zuke and 1st? Zuke gets 2 1st and a 2nd on his own Romy another 1st and a 1st on top of all that is what we were equating Marner to. Marner = 4 1sts + 2nd in this scenario. I had Gally at Sandin + 1st and 2nd that is literally a good prospect + 1st + 2nd nowhere near 4 1sts +. Come on try to keep up.


Quoting: Campabee
How are Sandin a 1st and 2nd worth more than Romy Zuke and 1st? Zuke gets 2 1st and a 2nd on his own Romy another 1st and a 1st on top of all that is what we were equating Marner to. Marner = 4 1sts + 2nd in this scenario. I had Gally at Sandin + 1st and 2nd that is literally a good prospect + 1st + 2nd nowhere near 4 1sts +. Come on try to keep up.


Are u referring to nick Suzuki as zuke
4 oct. 2021 à 22 h 11
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Quoting: Poehling
Price Gallagher in the playoffs or Marner Mrazek Kerfoot … you can’t be serious you take the 2nd choice


Price is also 33 years old bruh. Marner is a superstar who isn’t even in his prime yet. No ones gonna pay 10.5 mill for price who’s gonna be in his late 30s. Gallagher is also 29 years old. Leafs wouldn’t do gallagher and price for marner straight up. If this was a prime price, than obv it would be a diff convo.
4 oct. 2021 à 22 h 13
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
and sometimes they're just bad.
Like Price.
Goalies are quiet often bad suddenly and that means they cant carry a team any more.


You don’t watch hockey so how would you know if he became bad ?
4 oct. 2021 à 22 h 13
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Quoting: Campabee
Want to do Landeskog then again he took a discount but isn't worth more than 8-9 Mil so 1-2 mil less than Marners contract. Puts up the same numbers and kills penalties and is also elite. I wasn't the one proposing to trade Marner just commented on why it was bad for Montreal. I also didn't mean for it to sound like I was saying Marner was as severely overpaid as Price cause he isn't just that the package leaving Montreal is creating more holes that we don't need. Prise is at least 3 times better than Mrazek, Kerfoot is not needed as he would be relegated to the 4th line, Amirov is a good prospect but not on a team so deep at wing for so long and Marner is an upgrade on much of what we have but the difference between Marner and Gallagher is about the difference between Marner and Nylander. Yes Marner is an upgrade but not one we really are in dire need of doing since we need a top pairing D man or top 6 center more.


Did u just say landesgok puts up the same numbers as marner? Was landesgok top 5 in points last year ?
4 oct. 2021 à 22 h 14
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Quoting: Oodz
Price is also 33 years old bruh. Marner is a superstar who isn’t even in his prime yet. No ones gonna pay 10.5 mill for price who’s gonna be in his late 30s. Gallagher is also 29 years old. Leafs wouldn’t do gallagher and price for marner straight up. If this was a prime price, than obv it would be a diff convo.


I am talking for one playoffs series only, you have too choose Price Gallagher Poehling or Mrazek Marner Kerfoot
4 oct. 2021 à 22 h 16
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Want to do Landeskog then again he took a discount but isn't worth more than 8-9 Mil so 1-2 mil less than Marners contract. Puts up the same numbers and kills penalties and is also elite. I wasn't the one proposing to trade Marner just commented on why it was bad for Montreal. I also didn't mean for it to sound like I was saying Marner was as severely overpaid as Price cause he isn't just that the package leaving Montreal is creating more holes that we don't need. Prise is at least 3 times better than Mrazek, Kerfoot is not needed as he would be relegated to the 4th line, Amirov is a good prospect but not on a team so deep at wing for so long and Marner is an upgrade on much of what we have but the difference between Marner and Gallagher is about the difference between Marner and Nylander. Yes Marner is an upgrade but not one we really are in dire need of doing since we need a top pairing D man or top 6 center more.


Quoting: Campabee
Want to do Landeskog then again he took a discount but isn't worth more than 8-9 Mil so 1-2 mil less than Marners contract. Puts up the same numbers and kills penalties and is also elite. I wasn't the one proposing to trade Marner just commented on why it was bad for Montreal. I also didn't mean for it to sound like I was saying Marner was as severely overpaid as Price cause he isn't just that the package leaving Montreal is creating more holes that we don't need. Prise is at least 3 times better than Mrazek, Kerfoot is not needed as he would be relegated to the 4th line, Amirov is a good prospect but not on a team so deep at wing for so long and Marner is an upgrade on much of what we have but the difference between Marner and Gallagher is about the difference between Marner and Nylander. Yes Marner is an upgrade but not one we really are in dire need of doing since we need a top pairing D man or top 6 center more.


The difference between marner and nylander/gallagher is at least 2 firsts and a prospect. U have to understand that there is a tier amongst players, marner is a bonafide superstar in the league- finishing top 5 in points proved that. And if u say his playoff performance in validates that point, what about mcdavid and drai?
4 oct. 2021 à 22 h 17
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I am talking for one playoffs series only, you have too choose Price Gallagher Poehling or Mrazek Marner Kerfoot


Why would a team make a trade for just one playoff series ? Everyone knows that marner had a bad playoffs, but he’s 24 and a superstar. How come no one talks about drai and McDavid getting swept and their terrible playoff performance ?
4 oct. 2021 à 22 h 32
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Quoting: Poehling
You don’t watch hockey so how would you know if he became bad ?


tell me you got nothing without saying you got nothing
4 oct. 2021 à 22 h 41
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
tell me you got nothing without saying you got nothing


You’re a Leafs fans you cant watch another team than your Leafs who didn’t won a playoffs series since 2004
4 oct. 2021 à 22 h 42
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Quoting: Oodz
Why would a team make a trade for just one playoff series ? Everyone knows that marner had a bad playoffs, but he’s 24 and a superstar. How come no one talks about drai and McDavid getting swept and their terrible playoff performance ?


Because it’s only be 1 year, Marner is never great (he is not bad at all, but Price is always Great during the playoffs)
4 oct. 2021 à 22 h 44
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Because it’s only be 1 year, Marner is never great (he is not bad at all, but Price is always Great during the playoffs)


that's because they wouldnt make the playoffs in a full year with price so it wouldnt matter
4 oct. 2021 à 22 h 56
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
that's because they wouldnt make the playoffs in a full year with price so it wouldnt matter


Yeah right the Leafs with Price wouldn’t make the playoffs but with the Habs sure 😂 Leafs fans can’t be Canadian
4 oct. 2021 à 22 h 58
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Yeah right the Leafs with Price wouldn’t make the playoffs but with the Habs sure 😂 Leafs fans can’t be Canadian


yeah, because Price is a bad goalie in the regular season and bad goaltending sinks good teams all the times.
Also, what a weird thing to say about Leafs fans not being canadian. Incredibly weird.
5 oct. 2021 à 1 h 0
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Quoting: Oodz
The difference between marner and nylander/gallagher is at least 2 firsts and a prospect. U have to understand that there is a tier amongst players, marner is a bonafide superstar in the league- finishing top 5 in points proved that. And if u say his playoff performance in validates that point, what about mcdavid and drai?


LMAO that is literally what I said Marner = 4 1sts + 2nd = Suzuki ( 2 1sts + 2nd) + Romanov (1 1st) + 1st + 2nd. Gallagher = 1st + top prospect + 2nd = Sandin (top prospect) + 1st + 2nd. We are literally saying the same thing but somehow you are offended when I say it lol. What I was saying though is Marner does not fill a need for us, he would be a great luxury but is not a necessity as we already have strong wingers through out the lineup. If he was a center then yeah the deal makes sense, or if he was a top pairing LHD it would make sense as it would fill a need. As it stands though to move Gallagher + Price for Marner makes little sense.
5 oct. 2021 à 8 h 59
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Price Gallagher in the playoffs or Marner Mrazek Kerfoot … you can’t be serious you take the 2nd choice


Then if the offer was so good for the Leafs, why did a Habs fan propose it? Yep, Price and Gallagher were good in the for one year. But Price isn't worth his price soon and neither will be Gallagher.
Actually Kerfoot was the second best Leaf forward in the playoffs last season.
Trading Kerfoot leaves a gaping hole at centre for the Leafs that AHLer Poeling isn't filling.
5 oct. 2021 à 10 h 9
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Quoting: Campabee
Want to do Landeskog then again he took a discount but isn't worth more than 8-9 Mil so 1-2 mil less than Marners contract. Puts up the same numbers and kills penalties and is also elite. I wasn't the one proposing to trade Marner just commented on why it was bad for Montreal. I also didn't mean for it to sound like I was saying Marner was as severely overpaid as Price cause he isn't just that the package leaving Montreal is creating more holes that we don't need. Prise is at least 3 times better than Mrazek, Kerfoot is not needed as he would be relegated to the 4th line, Amirov is a good prospect but not on a team so deep at wing for so long and Marner is an upgrade on much of what we have but the difference between Marner and Gallagher is about the difference between Marner and Nylander. Yes Marner is an upgrade but not one we really are in dire need of doing since we need a top pairing D man or top 6 center more.


Landeskog had 0.02 SH TOI/G last year and he's not a top ten in the league point producer. So no, that isn't a comparison imo.
5 oct. 2021 à 12 h 25
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Quoting: palhal
Then if the offer was so good for the Leafs, why did a Habs fan propose it? Yep, Price and Gallagher were good in the for one year. But Price isn't worth his price soon and neither will be Gallagher.
Actually Kerfoot was the second best Leaf forward in the playoffs last season.
Trading Kerfoot leaves a gaping hole at centre for the Leafs that AHLer Poeling isn't filling.


I said Price Gallagher Poehling for the playoffs or Marner Mrazek Kerfoot. We are not talking about the trade, only if you had too choose between first or second option. Which one would you take entering the playoffs
5 oct. 2021 à 12 h 27
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I said Price Gallagher Poehling for the playoffs or Marner Mrazek Kerfoot. We are not talking about the trade, only if you had too choose between first or second option. Which one would you take entering the playoffs


I'm still not sure. Three NHLer for two....it still leaves a big hole at centre for the Leafs.
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