That’s great, if Edmundson is out for some time, Nike can get occasional ice time

No Belzile on waivers today. Doesn’t necessarily mean that he’ll be on the opening night roster, since the habs have a bunch of LTIR and normal IR to deal with. Tomorrow they need to be cap and roster compliant, which they should be as long as they send down one of Primeau/Poehling/Guhle/Romanov/Caufield and place Byron and Weber on LTIR.

Interesting player for MTL roster & cap/LTIR situation on waivers today : Gambrell (SJ)

Former 2nd pick center coming with 1.1m / 1 year deal.

SJ preferred to keep an undrafted player and a 4th pick rookie with no AHL/NHL games, so I'm not sure Gambrell camp was good...

But still, that could be the 1 million dollar player the Habs pick to optimize their LTIR. He could fight for a role on 4th line too with Paquette injured and Poehling struggling.

According to Arpon, "On Friday morning, according to a source, the Canadiens got their answer from the NHL. They will be able to put Price on LTIR"

If Bergevin goes for Price on LTIR, he adds : "In an ideal world, the Canadiens would sign or trade for a player at $1.125 million, which is the most a team is allowed to bury in the minors this season. That would allow them to get very close to the new upper limit, then loan that player to Laval on Tuesday and replace him with someone cheaper, like Poehling. The Tampa Bay Lightning did this last season when they signed Boo Nieves to a one-year contract for $708,000, which is a weird number."

That might work, although I’m not sure if the timing lines up. They can’t claim him until 2:00 tomorrow, and the roster deadline is tomorrow, I’m not sure what time. If it’s after 2:00 then it works. Then after that they can place Gambrell on waivers, and he either gets re-claimed by San Jose or the habs get free depth.

I think it's 5 pm EST

Then that’s perfect.

So the order of operations would be:

1. Place Teasdale, Brook, and Norlinder on SOIR.
2. Place Paquette, Edmundson, and Hoffman on IR.
3. Claim Gambrell.
4. Send down Poehling and Primeau.
5. Place Weber, Price, and Byron on LTIR.
— Montréal’s ACSL is $81,213,394 —
6. Place Gambrell on waivers.
7. Send down Guhle.
8. Gambrell is sent down or gets claimed.
9. Call up Poehling.
10. Take Paquette off IR.

And if we wanted to claim or trade for someone else we would need to either send down Poehling or place Belzile/Montembeault on waivers non-roster.

Also, the process of claiming Gambrell gives us an extra $220K in cap flexibility for the rest of the year.

Thanks!

so that's the training camp equation https://www.capfriendly.com/ltir-faq

Even if we put 3 players on LTIR, ACSL would be calculated as soon as the first player is placed on LTIR (most likely first Price to get as close to the cap limit), right?

The ACSL is calculated by the first player, but off-season LTIR is complicated. Arpon’s proposed roster is $10,970,537 over the cap with no-one on LTIR.

My guess is that Weber & Byron might already be on off-season LTIR, so they are placed on regular LTIR at the exact same time, and the ACSL is calculated then, in which case it would be $81,213,394. Price is placed on LTIR after that, and the ACSL stays the same.

But again these are just guesses based on context and what Arpon is saying, because with Arpon’s roster placing Price on LTIR before Weber/Byron would result in an ACSL above the cap by around $470K, which I don’t think is possible.

Alex Barré-Boulet is on waivers today…

French-Canadian - ✅
Centre - ✅
Cheap Deal - ✅
Young with Potential - ✅

I don’t see why the habs wouldn’t to it. Plus he has 3 years left on a league minimum deal, so if he works out that could be amazing 2 years down the line.

Although it is unlikely that the habs get him, given that they are near the bottom of the waiver priority list.

I'm reading he isnt really a center. But he does have a nice potential on offence (so not necessarily a 4th line role)

Brooks from TOR could fit in MTL tho

Big chance Montreal claims nobody. Bergevin is probably fine with what he has.

IDK how he can be fine with Belzile on its roster and with a question mark on 4th line role but yes, we do love to follow waivers but GMs dont seem to care that much

Belzile is on the 5th line today. I don't think he's a regular 12 guy. He will be one of our healthy scratches.

Formation du #CH à l'entraînement ce matin. Paquette de retour avec le groupe.Toffoli-Suzuki-CaufieldDrouin-Dvorak-AndersonArmia-Evans-GallagherLehkonen-Perreault-PaquetteBelzile-PoehlingKulak-PetryChiarot-SavardRomanov-WidemanGuhle-NikuAllenPrimeauMontembeault

— Patrick Friolet (@PFrioletRDS) October 11, 2021

I’m assuming that Paquette is playing C, and it’s good to see him back. Guhle will probably be sent back to Junior later today or tomorrow. And they might as well send down Poehling and Belzile once Hoffman is back.

Dominique Ducharme announces Kaiden Guhle is heading to Prince Albert, he will not start the season with the Canadiens.

— Arpon Basu (@ArponBasu) October 11, 2021

Welp you called it seconds before it happened.

MON claims Brooks

— Elliotte Friedman (@FriedgeHNIC) October 11, 2021

Looks like we got our 4th line center.

Yep, I guess Poehling will start in the minors/as a healthy scratch

So Poehling is going to Laval to comply with the roster limit. Belzile will likely be there soon.

If we are fully healthy when Edmundson gets back, Niku will probably be sent to Laval. So our healthy lineup probably looks like:

Toffoli - Suzuki - Caufield
Drouin - Dvorak - Anderson
Hoffman - Evans - Gallagher
Lehkonen - Brooks - Armia
Edmundson - Petry
Romanov - Savard
Chiarot - Wideman
Allen
Montembeault

Scratches:
Perreault
Paquette
Kulak

So Poehling is on the 23-man opening roster, but Niku isn’t. I guess that means they’re able to place Niku on IR, since he hasn’t been placed on waivers.

Poehling is there for maximizing LTIR, and I guess Niku is technically not fully healthy yet.

So Montréal’s ACSL is $81,451,370. Price is on LTIR right now, and Weber and Byron will probably be placed on LTIR soon, in which case the ACSL won’t change.

So obviously the salary cap doesn’t even need to be considered while Price is out.

When Price gets back, we’re looking at around $1.3 million in cap flexibility with a 23 man roster and around $2 million on a 22 man roster (which would be the amount we consider when adding a player via trade) and around $2.8 million on a 21 man roster. Those numbers shouldn’t get any lower, since we can run on emergency exceptions if we run into injury troubles. And obviously our cap flexibility would increase if anyone else were to sustain a Long-Term injury.

I read that teams are allowed to backdate the assignment of a player to IR but only to the time of the illness or injury.

IR means 7 days out, so Niku in theory cant play until 18 october. Instead, MTL would backdate the injury to 1st October when Niku got injured. By doing this Niku can be on IR for less than 7 days because MTL can legitimately backdate the assignment and prove with medical records his 1st october injury.

source https://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/and-now-you-know/2019/10/21/20890160/understanding-ir-and-ltir-for-the-leafs-this-season-toronto-maple-leafs