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Unexpected Offer Sheet

Créé par: dtd_tank
Date de création initiale: 25 août 2021
Publié: 25 août 2021
Équipe: 2021-22 Red Wings de Detroit
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Hronek, Filip44 500 000 $
Yamamoto, Kailer44 055 000 $
Offres hostiles
Le salaire annuel moyen (AAV) de l'offre hostile est calculé en divisant la valeur totale du contrat par: 1. La durée totale du contrat, ou 2. Cinq ans
JOUEURAAVCOMPENSATION
Yamamoto, Kailer4 055 000 $
Choix de 2e ronde en 2022
Rachats de contrats
  • Frans Nielsen: 4 250 000 $
  • Justin Abdelkader: 2 305 556 $
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Richard Pánik: 1 375 000 $ (50%)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2022
DET
WSH
DET
DET
COL
VGK
DET
DET
2023
DET
DET
DET
DET
DET
DET
DET
2024
DET
DET
DET
DET
DET
DET
DET
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $67 509 723 $0 $4 518 750 $13 990 277 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
DET
Bertuzzi, Tyler
4 750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
DET
Larkin, Dylan
6 100 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
Yamamoto, Kailer
4 055 000 $
AD, C
RFA - 1
DET
Vrána, Jakub
5 250 000 $
AG
UFA - 3
DET
Suter, Pius
3 250 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
DET
Zadina, Filip
894 167 $
AD, AG
RFA - 1
DET
Fabbri, Robby
2 950 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
DET
Rasmussen, Michael
1 460 000 $
AG, C, AD
RFA - 3
DET
Raymond, Lucas
925 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 3
DET
Veleno, Joseph
894 167 $
C
RFA - 2
DET
Namestnikov, Vladislav
2 000 000 $
AD, AG, C
UFA - 1
DET
Erne, Adam
2 100 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
DET
Leddy, Nick
5 500 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
DET
Hronek, Filip
4 500 000 $
DD
RFA - 3
DET
Nedeljkovic, Alex
3 000 000 $
G
UFA - 2
DET
Staal, Marc
2 000 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 1
DET
Seider, Moritz
863 333 $
DD
RFA - 3
DET
Greiss, Thomas
3 600 000 $
G
UFA - 1
DET
Oesterle, Jordan
1 350 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
DET
Stecher, Troy
1 700 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
DET
Gagner, Sam
850 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
DET
DeKeyser, Danny
5 000 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 1
DET
Lindström, Gustav
850 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
DET
Stephens, Mitchell
737 500 $
C
RFA - 1

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25 août 2021 à 14 h 3
#1
I am Loui Eriksson
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Edmonton matches so easily what are you doing?
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25 août 2021 à 14 h 3
#2
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Going to need to offer a lot more than that to have a chance.
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25 août 2021 à 14 h 3
#3
mokumboi
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Well, Yama won;t sign that and the Oil would match anyway.
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25 août 2021 à 14 h 6
#4
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25 août 2021 à 14 h 16
#5
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Quoting: mokumboi
Well, Yama won;t sign that and the Oil would match anyway.

Quoting: Byrr
Going to need to offer a lot more than that to have a chance.

Quoting: Juiceman
Edmonton matches so easily what are you doing?


How exactly does EDM match? they have $2478033 to sign him (considering a 23 man roster and Klefbom LTIR)...

But sure, I'll increase to 3.8M.
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25 août 2021 à 14 h 24
#6
Banni
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Quoting: Juiceman
Edmonton matches so easily what are you doing?


Right, With what cap space? Edmonton is already about $3,500,000 over the cap.
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25 août 2021 à 14 h 31
#7
STL V5 GM
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Quoting: Juiceman
Edmonton matches so easily what are you doing?


Quoting: Byrr
Going to need to offer a lot more than that to have a chance.


Quoting: mokumboi
Well, Yama won;t sign that and the Oil would match anyway.


EDM doesn't have enough cap space to match that
25 août 2021 à 14 h 58
#8
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Quoting: LGuy54
EDM doesn't have enough cap space to match that


With a 25 man roster, including a $4 million defenseman who is probably not going to start the season on the ice.
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25 août 2021 à 15 h 0
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Quoting: Byrr
With a 25 man roster, including a $4 million defenseman who is probably not going to start the season on the ice.


Which includes Yamamoto, so they only get to send 2 guys down if they sign him to this OS. One is a goalie, one is worth <1M. The CF sheet already considers most of Klefbom's LTIR money in use.
25 août 2021 à 15 h 1
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Quoting: dtd_tank
Which includes Yamamoto, so they only get to send 2 guys down if they sign him to this OS. One is a goalie, one is worth <1M. The CF sheet already considers most of Klefbom's LTIR money in use.


As few as 2, as much as 4. A quick 30 second look, after dropping down to 21 skaters and Klef on LTIR, Edmonton has $237,199 in space. Which means to keep one of their young stars, they would need to move a small contract out to have 22 on the roster and match this offer, say a Kyle Turris. Its not reasonable.
25 août 2021 à 15 h 8
#11
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
Right, With what cap space? Edmonton is already about $3,500,000 over the cap.


Wow good job man. I don’t think you accounted for the fact that Klefbom on ltir and the fact that they have a 25 man roster meaning they could send up to 4 players down to the minors. Don’t base your arguments from one glance at the cap friendly cap space page
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25 août 2021 à 15 h 13
#12
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Quoting: Juiceman
Wow good job man. I don’t think you accounted for the fact that Klefbom on ltir and the fact that they have a 25 man roster meaning they could send up to 4 players down to the minors. Don’t base your arguments from one glance at the cap friendly cap space page


The CF page already considers all but $943,032 of Klefbom's LTIR in use. Add in 4 contracts (Stalock, Lagesson, Perlini, Shore are my guesses?) gets you to $4,053,032 using all of the LTIR available and only a 21 man roster. So if I increase the OS to $4.055M (done!), that puts it over the edge. Right?
25 août 2021 à 15 h 20
#13
I am Loui Eriksson
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Quoting: dtd_tank
The CF page already considers all but $943,032 of Klefbom's LTIR in use. Add in 4 contracts (Stalock, Lagesson, Perlini, Shore are my guesses?) gets you to $4,053,032 using all of the LTIR available and only a 21 man roster. So if I increase the OS to $4.055M (done!), that puts it over the edge. Right?


They’ll probably find a way to match but I don’t really think I Yamamoto is even worth that much at this point…
25 août 2021 à 15 h 22
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Quoting: Juiceman
They’ll probably find a way to match but I don’t really think I Yamamoto is even worth that much at this point…


I would probably agree, yeah. If he comes out with his 19-20 self and goes PPG, then for sure he is. You really don't know what you'll get though, do ya?
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25 août 2021 à 17 h 23
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I'm not sure I'd give $4mm/year to someone with so few games. Is it the Drai/McDavid effect (Drai or McD were on the ice with Kailer over 65% of the time)? His numbers without them aren't good (even with RNH).

If you are going to do that, why not just put in Berggren (who will probably make the NHL before Raymond anyway)?
 
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