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Oilers Still Interested In Debrusk And Linked To Kessel

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Équipe: 2021-22 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 19 août 2021
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Looks like Holland is going all out on the forward group if he gets these 2 wingers.
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19 août 2021 à 18 h 21
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Boston doesn’t consider that, it’s gonna take more than that just to get them to take Kassian’s contract alone.
19 août 2021 à 18 h 31
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Boston doesn’t consider that, it’s gonna take more than that just to get them to take Kassian’s contract alone.


Kassian was better than DeBrusk and they get a pretty good goalie prospect, thats leaning heavily towards Boston
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19 août 2021 à 18 h 39
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Kassian was better than DeBrusk and they get a pretty good goalie prospect, thats leaning heavily towards Boston

They’ve got Vladar and swayman the swagman they don’t need another
19 août 2021 à 18 h 46
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Kassian was better than DeBrusk and they get a pretty good goalie prospect, thats leaning heavily towards Boston


When was he better than DeBrusk? He was awful this year when DeBrusk had a down year and played in 2018-20 with McDavid and Draisaitl on his line who carried him. On top of that, his contract is bad. Rodrigue is decent but the Bruins already have two young goalies in Swayman and Keyser so he wouldn't have a spot in the AHL.
19 août 2021 à 19 h 32
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They’ve got Vladar and swayman the swagman they don’t need another


Vladar was traded. That being said. This doesn’t solve any needs for Boston.
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19 août 2021 à 19 h 37
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If you were to make a list of things the bruins don’t need more of, it’s probably bottom six grit.
19 août 2021 à 19 h 52
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Lol we have Ullmark signed for 4yr and Swayman is already better than Rodrigue. Neither guy your offering moves the needle for Boston.
19 août 2021 à 21 h 16
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That'll never be considered
19 août 2021 à 21 h 29
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Any Oilers trade for DeBrusk is going to have to include Kassian to make the money work. Same with most any other team at this point with most rosters set. Kassian is big and can skate and fits a Bruins style of game so I do see a fit. Appears DeBrusk isn’t fitting into the Bruins plans so dealing from a position of weakness. Unless he rebounds big, no one will want to take on that QO.

Think ahead one year and it’s likely they don’t qualify DeBrusk and lose him for nothing. Even at the trade deadline, they likely need to take something not very good back or a lower pick to take the contract. I could see this happen only b/c the Bruins would have an asset earlier in the year to use or flip. Only reason Oilers do this is he is local and more likely to stay for less than his QO at year end or to free up more cap room for 22-23 if they walk away.

I don’t think the Oilers give up that much honestly. Maybe Kassian and a B prospect or mid-round pick. Bruins will be hard pressed to get a good return.
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19 août 2021 à 21 h 49
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Any Oilers trade for DeBrusk is going to have to include Kassian to make the money work. Same with most any other team at this point with most rosters set. Kassian is big and can skate and fits a Bruins style of game so I do see a fit. Appears DeBrusk isn’t fitting into the Bruins plans so dealing from a position of weakness. Unless he rebounds big, no one will want to take on that QO.

Think ahead one year and it’s likely they don’t qualify DeBrusk and lose him for nothing. Even at the trade deadline, they likely need to take something not very good back or a lower pick to take the contract. I could see this happen only b/c the Bruins would have an asset earlier in the year to use or flip. Only reason Oilers do this is he is local and more likely to stay for less than his QO at year end or to free up more cap room for 22-23 if they walk away.


Actually, completely false. There isn't much of a logjam at lw. If he fits on the 3rd this year, he'll stay there. Really no reason to trade him for us. Kassian could fit, sure, but he's not an interesting piece in this trade. Neither are any of the other pieces, honestly. It's a no.
19 août 2021 à 22 h 10
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Actually, completely false. There isn't much of a logjam at lw. If he fits on the 3rd this year, he'll stay there. Really no reason to trade him for us. Kassian could fit, sure, but he's not an interesting piece in this trade. Neither are any of the other pieces, honestly. It's a no.


Didn’t say there was a log jam, it’s money. Does Boston want to take the risk of hoping he turns around enough to qualify, or dump that risk on someone else to get something of marginal value. I’m fine with waiting until next summer for the Bruins to pull another Ritchie and then the Oilers possibly sign him as a UFA. Oilers don’t need to get DeBrusk now. It’s the Bruins that need to manage the return on their quickly depreciating asset. If this trade happens, it’s the Bruins initiating it, not Edm coming begging.
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19 août 2021 à 23 h 8
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Didn’t say there was a log jam, it’s money. Does Boston want to take the risk of hoping he turns around enough to qualify, or dump that risk on someone else to get something of marginal value. I’m fine with waiting until next summer for the Bruins to pull another Ritchie and then the Oilers possibly sign him as a UFA. Oilers don’t need to get DeBrusk now. It’s the Bruins that need to manage the return on their quickly depreciating asset. If this trade happens, it’s the Bruins initiating it, not Edm coming begging.


You can in fact trade until the deadline. And, I did in fact say IF he fits, he stays. He could be traded by the deadline. He could also be worth his QO. Who knows? What I'm saying for sure is that the Bruins would not consider this as an appropriate offer for JD, considering the cap dump you included as well as a 3rd and a goalie, all of which is low on our list of needs. We don't accept. Plain and simple enough for you?
19 août 2021 à 23 h 35
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You can in fact trade until the deadline. And, I did in fact say IF he fits, he stays. He could be traded by the deadline. He could also be worth his QO. Who knows? What I'm saying for sure is that the Bruins would not consider this as an appropriate offer for JD, considering the cap dump you included as well as a 3rd and a goalie, all of which is low on our list of needs. We don't accept. Plain and simple enough for you?


Slow down when you read and it may be plain and simple for you. Good luck with DeBrusk, prepare to be disappointed with how it ends.
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20 août 2021 à 0 h 12
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Slow down when you read and it may be plain and simple for you. Good luck with DeBrusk, prepare to be disappointed with how it ends.


I guess we aren't understanding each other. Also, YOU proposed this trade, not me. So all this bs about Boston initiating the trade is delusional. And, I'll remind you, yet again, that he can be traded at the deadline, even if it's for not as much. We wouldn't be taking this trade, that, again, YOU proposed, not me. Nothing in this trade that you proposed helps us in any way. Kassian is not better than debrusk, and is a cap dump. You'll need to pay to get rid of him. Not much, but we aren't taking him without it.
20 août 2021 à 0 h 54
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I guess we aren't understanding each other. Also, YOU proposed this trade, not me. So all this bs about Boston initiating the trade is delusional. And, I'll remind you, yet again, that he can be traded at the deadline, even if it's for not as much. We wouldn't be taking this trade, that, again, YOU proposed, not me. Nothing in this trade that you proposed helps us in any way. Kassian is not better than debrusk, and is a cap dump. You'll need to pay to get rid of him. Not much, but we aren't taking him without it.


I didn’t propose the trade. This isn’t my team. I only stated that any trade with Edm would need Kassian to make the money work, the tough spot the Bruins are in with the qualifying offer and that the Oilers as a result wouldn’t offer as much as the trade proposed. Thanks for proving my point on your reading comprehension. Movin’ on.
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20 août 2021 à 7 h 27
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I didn’t propose the trade. This isn’t my team. I only stated that any trade with Edm would need Kassian to make the money work, the tough spot the Bruins are in with the qualifying offer and that the Oilers as a result wouldn’t offer as much as the trade proposed. Thanks for proving my point on your reading comprehension. Movin’ on.


Right, sorry about that. I just see so many of these JD to Edmonton trades for kassian or some other crap that they are all just blurring together at this point. Truly sorry about that. Here I'll amend myself: it's a trade that was proposed by an Edmonton fan. And yes, I understand, kassian needs to be moved to make the money work. For Edmonton. But there is no reason for Boston to do that. Again, we'll decline.
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20 août 2021 à 8 h 7
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Lol we have Ullmark signed for 4yr and Swayman is already better than Rodrigue. Neither guy your offering moves the needle for Boston.


yeah then when Ullmark inevitably gets hurt you have Swayman and...
20 août 2021 à 8 h 10
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Quoting: JeffSkinnerFan53
They’ve got Vladar and swayman the swagman they don’t need another


Quoting: l19f9
Vladar was traded. That being said. This doesn’t solve any needs for Boston.


Ullmark is a bandaid. Rodrigue is also still a prospect, he has some time to develop
20 août 2021 à 8 h 12
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I'm not sure why Edmonton would be interested in DeBrusk, he's not big & physical and doesn't play the 2-way game that Edmonton seems to be targeting recently (Hyman, Foegele). Honestly Holloway is better than DeBrusk right now and millions cheaper.
20 août 2021 à 8 h 31
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Lol we have Ullmark signed for 4yr and Swayman is already better than Rodrigue. Neither guy your offering moves the needle for Boston.


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yeah then when Ullmark inevitably gets hurt you have Swayman and...


Rodrigue just turned 21 last month, he's not realistically an NHL option for a few years yet. Honestly if Boston developed him for his 21, 22, 23 and 24-year-old seasons he should be ready to play full-time when the Ullmark contract is up. For reference, he's 2 years younger than Swayman.

(Note, this comment is not an endorsement of the trade proposal being discussed, I just wanted to point out that the Ullmark signing has nothing to do with Rodrigue's value to Boston.)
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20 août 2021 à 8 h 46
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Kessel isn’t linked to you guys from what I know he wants to play for The Golden Knights
20 août 2021 à 9 h 12
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yeah then when Ullmark inevitably gets hurt you have Swayman and...


LOL between Eichel injury and disagreement and Ullmark commenting that they had him doing activities well before he should have been, I'm going going to say the Buffalo staff (like their franchise) is just a dumpster fire that has no idea what they're doing. Ullmark also doesn't have to be leaned on for starts in Boston because we have Swayman. I don't think people realize just how good Swayman was last year when Rask and Halak went down.
20 août 2021 à 9 h 19
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LOL between Eichel injury and disagreement and Ullmark commenting that they had him doing activities well before he should have been, I'm going going to say the Buffalo staff (like their franchise) is just a dumpster fire that has no idea what they're doing. Ullmark also doesn't have to be leaned on for starts in Boston because we have Swayman. I don't think people realize just how good Swayman was last year when Rask and Halak went down.


Lehner* Whats also funny though is Dr. Cappuccino (yes thats his real name) saved Kevin Everett from permanent paralysis and is highly regarded, but then we keep hearing $hit like that
20 août 2021 à 9 h 33
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Lehner* Whats also funny though is Dr. Cappuccino (yes thats his real name) saved Kevin Everett from permanent paralysis and is highly regarded, but then we keep hearing $hit like that


I'll have to go back and find it, but after he signed with Boston there was a comment he made about Buffalo's staff mismanaging his injury and rehab.
20 août 2021 à 9 h 43
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I'll have to go back and find it, but after he signed with Boston there was a comment he made about Buffalo's staff mismanaging his injury and rehab.


LOL
 
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