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Morgan Rielly sounds like a bank

Créé par: NHLfan10506
Équipe: 2021-22 Devils du New Jersey
Date de création initiale: 18 août 2021
Publié: 18 août 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
NJD
  1. Engvall, Pierre
  2. Rielly, Morgan
  3. Choix de 6e ronde en 2023 (TOR)
TOR
  1. White, Colton
  2. Wood, Miles
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (NJD)
Détails additionnels:
Using Tyson Barrie trade from Colorado as a comp here. In that deal, Avs traded Barrie, Alex Kerfoot and a 6th for Nazem Kadri, Calle Rosen and a 3rd.

Leafs would likely get a better package from another team as Devils aren’t giving away core players or 1st round picks for rentals, especially at positions where they have multiple top prospects and would be unlikely to re-sign Rielly.
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18 août 2021 à 15 h 41
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You know what it kinda does. Sounds like a small American bank
18 août 2021 à 15 h 48
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no just no, not even close to enough
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18 août 2021 à 15 h 49
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no just no, not even close to enough


Explain to me how Rielly gets a bigger return than Barrie got for Avs
18 août 2021 à 15 h 52
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Explain to me how Rielly gets a bigger return than Barrie got for Avs


Because Ristolainen got a better deal and so did Seth Jones. Rielly is miles better than Ristolainen and he's right on par with Jones. If you want an elite puck moving defenceman from a team that's in a clear win now mode and likes those exact types of players, you're going to pay a premium. Likely going to overpay to convince Toronto to even move him right now. You're offer is severely lacking in quality. Easy decline.
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18 août 2021 à 15 h 54
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Explain to me how Rielly gets a bigger return than Barrie got for Avs


hes not a seth jones dont get me wrong, but, this guy is a top pairing guy on a top team in the nhl, hes been scoring the same as hamilton over the last few years, im not saying send us everything you have, im just saying the leafs get more than that in a riley trade, a first and a good defensive prospect and maybe a third, miles wood and white just dosent make sense for both sides lets be honest here. idk why this is a bad trade for both sides, leafs would be losing their best defenseman with no replacement for him and NJD is getting another OFD

plus engvall adds no value to this trade
18 août 2021 à 15 h 59
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
Explain to me how Rielly gets a bigger return than Barrie got for Avs


Because Rielly is better. The narrative leafs give on Rielly defense game is bad. He never had a stable d partner nor had a good one until Brodie.

He's get more value than Barrie easily even with Barrie being a RD which makes GM's go crazy
18 août 2021 à 16 h 9
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Because Ristolainen got a better deal and so did Seth Jones. Rielly is miles better than Ristolainen and he's right on par with Jones. If you want an elite puck moving defenceman from a team that's in a clear win now mode and likes those exact types of players, you're going to pay a premium. Likely going to overpay to convince Toronto to even move him right now. You're offer is severely lacking in quality. Easy decline.


Rielly is better than Risto, but disagree with Jones.
The Risto trade was a shocking overpay.
If Leafs can get similar, they should take it and run with with Sandin.

(Also, if the argument was simply, its a seller's d-man market, could say Devils should charge premium for Subban at 50% too)

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hes not a seth jones dont get me wrong, but, this guy is a top pairing guy on a top team in the nhl, hes been scoring the same as hamilton over the last few years, im not saying send us everything you have, im just saying the leafs get more than that in a riley trade, a first and a good defensive prospect and maybe a third, miles wood and white just dosent make sense for both sides lets be honest here. idk why this is a bad trade for both sides, leafs would be losing their best defenseman with no replacement for him and NJD is getting another OFD

plus engvall adds no value to this trade


I don't think NJD is a realistic landing place for Rielly.
And I picked Wood since Leafs always seem to be trading for him.
But the idea was to provide a realistic comp off Barrie deal.

Quoting: DroverD2
Because Rielly is better. The narrative leafs give on Rielly defense game is bad. He never had a stable d partner nor had a good one until Brodie.

He's get more value than Barrie easily even with Barrie being a RD which makes GM's go crazy


Rielly's defense wouldn't concern me as much as him losing PP time to a rookie.
18 août 2021 à 16 h 19
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if you're trading a defender you compare him to the current market. Considering what Jones got Rielly should be somewhere closer to that than to whatever Barrie got
18 août 2021 à 17 h 1
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Rielly is better than Risto, but disagree with Jones.
The Risto trade was a shocking overpay.
If Leafs can get similar, they should take it and run with with Sandin.

(Also, if the argument was simply, its a seller's d-man market, could say Devils should charge premium for Subban at 50% too)


Rielly:
https://jfresh.substack.com/p/jfreshs-mailbag-february-20th

Jones:
https://mobile.twitter.com/JFreshHockey/status/1418706601381400577/photo/1

Calling them close was me being generous.. it's not even close in reality.
18 août 2021 à 17 h 6
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Rielly:
https://jfresh.substack.com/p/jfreshs-mailbag-february-20th

Jones:
https://mobile.twitter.com/JFreshHockey/status/1418706601381400577/photo/1

Calling them close was me being generous.. it's not even close in reality.


It’s not close in reality.
Jones can play defense.
18 août 2021 à 17 h 25
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It’s not close in reality.
Jones can play defense.


Do you watch hockey? Clearly not. Because Jones is not good at defence. Great try though.
18 août 2021 à 17 h 28
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Do you watch hockey? Clearly not. Because Jones is not good at defence. Great try though.


Do you just read internet stat cards? Clearly so. Because Jones has long track record of being elite two-way d-man.
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Do you just read internet stat cards? Clearly so. Because Jones has long track record of being elite two-way d-man.


LOL no he doesn't. If you watch him play, you'd see. He's targeted when teams play against him because they know he's extremely vulnerable.

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