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Buffalos asking price for Eichel Reinhart and Ristolainen according to NRD

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Équipe: 2021-22 Sabres de Buffalo
Date de création initiale: 20 juill. 2021
Publié: 20 juill. 2021
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  1. Dumba, Matt
  2. Rossi, Marco
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (PIT)
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (MIN)
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (MIN)
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The 2022 1st round pick would be conditional.


Condition: If Jack Eichel fails to play in 50% of the regular season for Minnesota, the 2022 1st round pick is returned to Minnesota and Buffalo does not receive it.

That means if the 2021-2022 regular season is 82 games long, Eichel will need to appear in 41 of those games for Minnesota in order for Buffalo to receive the pick.
MIN
  1. Eichel, Jack
Détails additionnels:
The equivalent of 4 first round picks in an average draft year

OR

Two roster players, two solid prospects and a first.
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BUF
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (LAK)
LAK
  1. Reinhart, Sam [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
A top 10 pick for the upcoming draft or its equivalent.
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BUF
  1. Ginning, Adam [Liste de réserve]
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (PHI)
PHI
  1. Ristolainen, Rasmus (2 700 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
A solid prospect and a 2nd round pick.
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VGK
  1. Choix de 6e ronde en 2021 (COL)
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LAK
  1. Tokarski, Dustin
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2021 (MTL)
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20 juill. 2021 à 17 h 19
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I predicted that Adams was going to outprice Eichel from truly realistic offers.

Seems I was about right on that.
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20 juill. 2021 à 17 h 33
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Adam's is an idiot if he thinks he is getting 4 1sts for Eichel, he is not McDavid or MacKinnon FFS!
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The Sabres continue to navigate the Jack Eichel trade waters. Told the price hasn’t changed: 2 NHL players, 2 top prospects and/or a 1st round pick(s) - minimum 4 assets.
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20 juill. 2021 à 17 h 34
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Another awful year for the Sabres. This looks like an AHL team.
20 juill. 2021 à 17 h 35
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Sabres also dont want or need Dumba stop trying to force it. Minnesota wants to keep him as well. Dumba isnt a thing
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Adam's is an idiot if he thinks he is getting 4 1sts for Eichel, he is not McDavid or MacKinnon FFS!


McDavid and MacKinnon are not playing for Buffalo either.
20 juill. 2021 à 17 h 37
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Sabres also dont want or need Dumba stop trying to force it. Minnesota wants to keep him as well. Dumba isnt a thing


According to NRD, who went on the Instigators podcast earlier today, he's one of the pieces being discussed.

https://twitter.com/NHLRumorsDaily/status/1417513217585201155
20 juill. 2021 à 17 h 37
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McDavid and MacKinnon are not playing for Buffalo either.


Obviously but not sure what that has to do with Adam's being an idiot and asking for McDavid/MacKinnon prices?!
20 juill. 2021 à 17 h 41
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Obviously but not sure what that has to do with Adam's being an idiot and asking for McDavid/MacKinnon prices?!


Eichel, McDavid and MacKinnon are all bona fide elite #1 centermen in the NHL.
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According to NRD, who went on the Instigators podcast earlier today, he's one of the pieces being discussed.

https://twitter.com/NHLRumorsDaily/status/1417513217585201155


Hes a big name with a big contract, he's probably guessing or Minnesota brought the name up. If Dumba the main piece coming back, im done with this team, I dont care how many useless firsts they bring back. They have no chance to recover their franchise if they botch the Eichel trade
20 juill. 2021 à 17 h 44
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How about pettersson + 4th for risto half retained
20 juill. 2021 à 17 h 47
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Eichel, McDavid and MacKinnon are all bona fide elite #1 centermen in the NHL.


LMAO! Do you seriously think Eichel is in McDavid and MacKinnon league? How many 100 point seasons does Eichel have? Right 0! Howabout 40 goal seasons? Again 0! He has as many 80 point seasons as Aho and has been around longer than Aho. So his value is = to Aho NOT McDavid and MacKinnon!
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How about pettersson + 4th for risto half retained


It's gotta be a solid prospect and a 2nd.

Or something close to it.
20 juill. 2021 à 17 h 51
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Hes a big name with a big contract, he's probably guessing or Minnesota brought the name up. If Dumba the main piece coming back, im done with this team, I dont care how many useless firsts they bring back. They have no chance to recover their franchise if they botch the Eichel trade


Everybody thought Pierre Dorion botched the Erik Karlsson trade because it seemed all we got back was a pile of junk for him.

Turns out it worked just fine for us.
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20 juill. 2021 à 17 h 53
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LMAO! Do you seriously think Eichel is in McDavid and MacKinnon league? How many 100 point seasons does Eichel have? Right 0! Howabout 40 goal seasons? Again 0! He has as many 80 point seasons as Aho and has been around longer than Aho. So his value is = to Aho NOT McDavid and MacKinnon!


Eichel would have 100 point seasons as well.

Just needs to be on a team that hasn't missed the playoffs for 10 years.
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It's gotta be a solid prospect and a 2nd.

Or something close to it.


Pettersson + Bjorkqvist? For risto half retained + 5th
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Everybody thought Pierre Dorion botched the Erik Karlsson trade because it seemed all we got back was a pile of junk for him.

Turns out it worked just fine for us.


Dorian didnt trade for the 27 year old offensive dman though
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Pettersson + Bjorkqvist? For risto half retained + 5th


Pettersson is a cap dump and was made Pittsburgh's 6th/7th defenceman during the playoffs.

He has really fallen out of favor with Sullivan.

Turn Pettersson into a fresh 2nd round pick and Buffalo most likely says yes.



One team that could use Pettersson is Detroit.

Their defence on the left side is extremely weak and the Wings are more than 20 million from the cap floor.
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Pettersson is a cap dump and was made Pittsburgh's 6th/7th defenceman during the playoffs.

He has really fallen out of favor with Sullivan.

Turn Pettersson into a fresh 2nd round pick and Buffalo most likely says yes.



One team that could use Pettersson is Detroit.

Their defence on the left side is extremely weak and the Wings are more than 20 million from the cap floor.


Ok, how about 3rd + Bjorkqvist
20 juill. 2021 à 18 h 24
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Eichel would have 100 point seasons as well.

Just needs to be on a team that hasn't missed the playoffs for 10 years.


Edmonton hasn't had a great team either yet McDavid still puts up 100+ points so that is a pretty lame excuse if you ask me
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Dorian didnt trade for the 27 year old offensive dman though


True, but I will say this:


1. Buffalo will be losing Colin Miller in the expansion draft.

2. Buffalo will be trading away Ristolainen within 2-3 weeks.

3. Henri Jokiharju is not a #1 defenceman in the NHL.


Those are huge losses on the right side of Buffalo's defence and they can't be ignored.

Based on what I heard from NRD and the Instigators podcast early today, it would make sense for Kevyn Adams to ask about Dumba.

He needs to stop the bleeding.



If I were someone who doesn't want Dumba on my team, I would look at it this way

The main piece in this Eichel trade would not be Dumba, but Rossi.

He can play centre.

He's a blue-chip prospect who was taken in the top 10 in one of the best draft classes in years.

He will almost certainly be a solid NHL player.



At the end of the day, Buffalo needs to get the biggest and most valuable return for Eichel.

If that means bringing in Dumba, then Kevyn Adams did what he had to do.
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Ok, how about 3rd + Bjorkqvist


If no other team matches or exceeds that offer, Buffalo will say yes to that.
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Edmonton hasn't had a great team either yet McDavid still puts up 100+ points so that is a pretty lame excuse if you ask me


Edmonton is no longer one of the worst teams in the league and they occasionally make the playoffs.

Buffalo hasn't made the playoffs in 10 years.


Since they were drafted 1st and 2nd overall in 2015, Eichel had to play with people like Kyle Okposo, Jeff Skinner and Zemgus Girgensons.

Meanwhile, McDavid gets to play with Nuge and Draisaitl.


Once Eichel is on a different team, he'll over-preform expectations.

That's a given.
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True, but I will say this:


1. Buffalo will be losing Colin Miller in the expansion draft.

2. Buffalo will be trading away Ristolainen within 2-3 weeks.

3. Henri Jokiharju is not a #1 defenceman in the NHL.


Those are huge losses on the right side of Buffalo's defence and they can't be ignored.

Based on what I heard from NRD and the Instigators podcast early today, it would make sense for Kevyn Adams to ask about Dumba.

He needs to stop the bleeding.



If I were someone who doesn't want Dumba on my team, I would look at it this way

The main piece in this Eichel trade would not be Dumba, but Rossi.

He can play centre.

He's a blue-chip prospect who was taken in the top 10 in one of the best draft classes in years.

He will almost certainly be a solid NHL player.



At the end of the day, Buffalo needs to get the biggest and most valuable return for Eichel.

If that means bringing in Dumba, then Kevyn Adams did what he had to do.


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20 juill. 2021 à 19 h 27
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Edmonton is no longer one of the worst teams in the league and they occasionally make the playoffs.

Buffalo hasn't made the playoffs in 10 years.


Since they were drafted 1st and 2nd overall in 2015, Eichel had to play with people like Kyle Okposo, Jeff Skinner and Zemgus Girgensons.

Meanwhile, McDavid gets to play with Nuge and Draisaitl.


Once Eichel is on a different team, he'll over-preform expectations.

That's a given.


If that's what you think trade him to the Sens instead
 
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