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Équipe: 2021-22 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 6 juill. 2021
Publié: 6 juill. 2021
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EDM
  1. Miller, Colin
  2. Skinner, Jeff
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (BUF)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (BUF)
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  2. Russell, Kris
  3. Choix de 6e ronde en 2021 (EDM)
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  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (EDM)
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DET
  1. Kassian, Zack
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (EDM)
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EDM
  1. Choix de 7e ronde en 2022 (NJD)
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  2. Samorukov, Dmitri
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2021 (EDM)
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6 juill. 2021 à 22 h 29
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This must be pistol Pete’s account….
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6 juill. 2021 à 22 h 32
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I feel like you could get more from buffalo, I wonder if they would give up their first pick this year for someone to take skinner?

Also I think Detroit would accept.
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6 juill. 2021 à 22 h 33
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Absolutely not. Neal has an easy buyout if it comes down to it. Skinners contract given his play over the last two seasons is the type of deal that can completely cripple a franchise. Oilers window is opening now and Skinner could completely end the chance of competing. Biggest no i've ever seen on this sight in the last year.
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6 juill. 2021 à 22 h 35
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Holland should be fired for making the trade with the Sabres.

Why people continue to give Yamamoto 3 million is baffling.
He has no arbitration rights, he has zero power and he needs to be qualified at 800K you just gave him 2 million more than he’s worth, Oilers comp is JP & he only makes 1.2M
Start there next time.
I can get behind the NJ trade but Kassian has to be retained and throwing in a second is madness.
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6 juill. 2021 à 22 h 38
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That'd be a good trade for New Jersey.
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6 juill. 2021 à 22 h 40
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Quoting: Bobcaygeon97
Holland should be fired for making the trade with the Sabres.

Why people continue to give Yamamoto 3 million is baffling.
He has no arbitration rights, he has zero power and he needs to be qualified at 800K you just gave him 2 million more than he’s worth, Oilers comp is JP & he only makes 1.2M
Start there next time.
I can get behind the NJ trade but Kassian has to be retained and throwing in a second is madness.


He's worth 3M$ tho FWIW pun intended

I usually give him about a 3 x 3

Anticipates a likely ascension soon
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6 juill. 2021 à 22 h 41
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Wings pass, greiss not going anywhere and it wi take a lot more then a 2nd to get rid of that garbage contract. Oilers give up a first and lavoie to even get the conversation started
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6 juill. 2021 à 22 h 42
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Quoting: Lancebmx
I feel like you could get more from buffalo, I wonder if they would give up their first pick this year for someone to take skinner?

Also I think Detroit would accept.


Wings pass, kassian is dog crap and on a Terrible contract for long term. Oilers give up way more or no go
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6 juill. 2021 à 22 h 42
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
That'd be a good trade for New Jersey.


Samorukov is a "meh" prospect. The Devils have a bunch of LHD prospects they are looking to pan out.... If the Devils are going to weaponize the cap room, this really isn't enough to interest a move.
6 juill. 2021 à 22 h 42
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Yeah I mean sknners contract could be argued as one of the worst in sports history at least yashin and Luongo were really good for a long time

Yash was 2nd in Hart voting in '99 (ahead of hasek)

Rick Dipietro failed mostly due to injuries
6 juill. 2021 à 22 h 44
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Quoting: Bobcaygeon97
Holland should be fired for making the trade with the Sabres.

Why people continue to give Yamamoto 3 million is baffling.
He has no arbitration rights, he has zero power and he needs to be qualified at 800K you just gave him 2 million more than he’s worth, Oilers comp is JP & he only makes 1.2M
Start there next time.
I can get behind the NJ trade but Kassian has to be retained and throwing in a second is madness.


Completely agree this your point on Yamamoto. He's definitely a hard working player and I'm sure he'll turn out into a great player. But for the time being he hasn't put up the numbers he is expected to playing with Draisaitl. He's likely getting around $1.5M max on a bridge deal.
6 juill. 2021 à 22 h 53
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Wings pass, kassian is dog crap and on a Terrible contract for long term. Oilers give up way more or no go


He still has some trade value to a couple teams, easy to eat half his salary and get a third or fourth on top
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6 juill. 2021 à 23 h 10
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Wings pass, kassian is dog crap and on a Terrible contract for long term. Oilers give up way more or no go


That said there are bigger fish to fry with the cap, but if a team like Pit or Nyr want Kassian at 1.6m I would eat that other 1.6 for three years for a second. Plus whatever comes back for him a third or fifth or whatever.
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6 juill. 2021 à 23 h 13
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Quoting: Lancebmx
That said there are bigger fish to fry with the cap, but if a team like Pit or Nyr want Kassian at 1.6m I would eat that other 1.6 for three years for a second. Plus whatever comes back for him a third or fifth or whatever.


They aren't trying up a retention slot for 3 years for a 2nd, not worth it. Gotta think long term
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6 juill. 2021 à 23 h 24
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They aren't trying up a retention slot for 3 years for a 2nd, not worth it. Gotta think long term


Isn't it only 3 contracts per year? Or is it 3 contracts max for the duration of those contracts? I was led to believe it was 3 a year.
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6 juill. 2021 à 23 h 31
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Isn't it only 3 contracts per year? Or is it 3 contracts max for the duration of those contracts? I was led to believe it was 3 a year.


3 at a time no matter how long they are. So this would tie up 1 of them for 3 years
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6 juill. 2021 à 23 h 32
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Isn't it only 3 contracts per year? Or is it 3 contracts max for the duration of those contracts? I was led to believe it was 3 a year.


Here's what the nhl rules say

Retained salary by the trading team cannot be more than 15 percent of the upper salary cap limit. A maximum of 3 such contracts with salary retained in a trade can be on a team's books at any one time.
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6 juill. 2021 à 23 h 38
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Here's what the nhl rules say

Retained salary by the trading team cannot be more than 15 percent of the upper salary cap limit. A maximum of 3 such contracts with salary retained in a trade can be on a team's books at any one time.


All teams are limited to a maximum of 3 retained salary contracts per season.

I got that from the CBA so that's why I thought that.
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6 juill. 2021 à 23 h 56
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All teams are limited to a maximum of 3 retained salary contracts per season.

I got that from the CBA so that's why I thought that.


Thanks for the education, see I didn't know this that's why I thought it was good value. I'm thinking now the best value is in higher cap hit with less term.
7 juill. 2021 à 1 h 45
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Much like Stecher I don't see Greiss being traded in the off season but its likely he gets traded at the TDL.
7 juill. 2021 à 5 h 47
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Detroit declines, reasons given by other posters.
7 juill. 2021 à 11 h 2
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Quoting: Lancebmx
I feel like you could get more from buffalo, I wonder if they would give up their first pick this year for someone to take skinner?

Also I think Detroit would accept.


I feel buffalo would rather eat the Skinner contract than give up the 1st if they where a more competitive team it might different.
 
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