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Créé par: KINGS67
Équipe: 2021-22 Kings de Los Angeles
Date de création initiale: 15 juin 2021
Publié: 15 juin 2021
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What if eventually kaprizov is not happy if the Wild can’t get him a center that he wants?

Idk when he would ask if ever but I’ll just put it for this season just for the fun of it.
The haul for him would be ridiculous!
Let’s make another move or 2 while I’m at it.
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      15 juin 2021 à 19 h 5
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      Minnesota laughs for hours on end. And Werenski already said he is only interested ib waiving for Detroit
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      15 juin 2021 à 19 h 7
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      Quoting: Gmonwy
      Minnesota laughs for hours on end. And Werenski already said he is only interested ib waiving for Detroit

      You know this was just for fun right? Hence the title.

      But in reality I don’t think this is that much of a laughable offer.
      15 juin 2021 à 19 h 20
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      Quoting: KINGS67
      You know this was just for fun right? Hence the title.

      But in reality I don’t think this is that much of a laughable offer.


      Then you are highly overrating Vilardi. I think any offer would have to start with Byfield and I don't see the Kings doing that. It's possibly Kaprizov wants to leave in the future, but that wouldn't be for at least a couple more years and it's way to premature to think about potential offers (though I can tell you the price will be astronomical assuming he stays healthy and continues his elite play). I know it's for fun, but this offer isn't close
      15 juin 2021 à 19 h 21
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      Quoting: TanSor
      Then you are highly overrating Vilardi. I think any offer would have to start with Byfield and I don't see the Kings doing that. It's possibly Kaprizov wants to leave in the future, but that wouldn't be for at least a couple more years and it's way to premature to think about potential offers (though I can tell you the price will be astronomical assuming he stays healthy and continues his elite play). I know it's for fun, but this offer isn't close

      Byfield won’t be involved for Eichel let alone kaprizov.

      Also Kaliyev won’t be a kaprizov per say but has an elite shot and proved it in the AHL. He definitely has potential to be a perennial 30-40 goal scorer but most likely needs the center that kaprizov needs so probably does no good to MIN. But I think you undervalue this offer tbh. But that’s ok it’s your opinion and a respected one. I wouldn’t want kaprizov leaving my team either
      15 juin 2021 à 19 h 24
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      Quoting: TanSor
      Then you are highly overrating Vilardi. I think any offer would have to start with Byfield and I don't see the Kings doing that. It's possibly Kaprizov wants to leave in the future, but that wouldn't be for at least a couple more years and it's way to premature to think about potential offers (though I can tell you the price will be astronomical assuming he stays healthy and continues his elite play). I know it's for fun, but this offer isn't close


      It's no different than the Eichel situation now. It wouldn't start with Byfield. If we were trading Kaprizov because he doesn't want to be here, Vilardi is a fine start, or Turcotte. That said, the deal as is would be a little light on quality and a little heavy on quantity for what I'd prefer (and I hate Kaliyev, so I personally would want him swapped out), but there is 100% room for a deal without Byfield.
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      15 juin 2021 à 19 h 25
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      Quoting: KINGS67
      Byfield won’t be involved for Eichel let alone kaprizov.


      That's my point, the price for Kaprizov would be stupidly high so it's not even worth discussing
      15 juin 2021 à 19 h 33
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      It's no different than the Eichel situation now. It wouldn't start with Byfield. If we were trading Kaprizov because he doesn't want to be here, Vilardi is a fine start, or Turcotte. That said, the deal as is would be a little light on quality and a little heavy on quantity for what I'd prefer (and I hate Kaliyev, so I personally would want him swapped out), but there is 100% room for a deal without Byfield.

      ****emo could be that replacement but yeah as far as NHLers returned back to MIN of course Iafallo or Kempe would be the go to guys.
      15 juin 2021 à 19 h 35
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      That's my point, the price for Kaprizov would be stupidly high so it's not even worth discussing

      It wouldn’t start with Byfield. But there could absolutely be a discussion with how many high end prospects MIN could choose from in LAs system. I think kings would be a number one trade team for MIN.
      15 juin 2021 à 19 h 46
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      Quoting: Caerii
      It's no different than the Eichel situation now. It wouldn't start with Byfield. If we were trading Kaprizov because he doesn't want to be here, Vilardi is a fine start, or Turcotte. That said, the deal as is would be a little light on quality and a little heavy on quantity for what I'd prefer (and I hate Kaliyev, so I personally would want him swapped out), but there is 100% room for a deal without Byfield.


      It is different though. Kaprizov isn't suffering from a potential career ending injury and he also doesn't have the alleged character concerns surrounding Eichel. Kaprizov is also a wing and less proven.

      Personally I'm not convinced Vilardi will be much more than a 2C which is still a good asset but not enough if we're trading Kaprizov. I'm also not super high on Turcotte. I watched him with the Badgers since I'm a UW alum and just wasn't as impressed as the hype made me think I would be. He's good, and probably a career top 6 C, but if we're trading a superstar winger I'd be whelmed if he were the main prospect coming back.
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      15 juin 2021 à 19 h 51
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      Quoting: TanSor
      It is different though. Kaprizov isn't suffering from a potential career ending injury and he also doesn't have the alleged character concerns surrounding Eichel. Kaprizov is also a wing and less proven.

      Personally I'm not convinced Vilardi will be much more than a 2C which is still a good asset but not enough if we're trading Kaprizov. I'm also not super high on Turcotte. I watched him with the Badgers since I'm a UW alum and just wasn't as impressed as the hype made me think I would be. He's good, and probably a career top 6 C, but if we're trading a superstar winger I'd be whelmed if he were the main prospect coming back.



      Eichel isn't suffering from a potential career ending injury either, and no one knows enough about Kaprizov's character to say whether he has character concerns or not.

      The point of this exercise is that you're trading him because he's not going to sign here long term. He doesn't want to be here. So you're not going to get an offer or return that you're going to think is good. You're not going to get a surefire 1C prospect in return. You're going to get a Vilardi or Turcotte type at most.
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      15 juin 2021 à 20 h 19
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      Quoting: Gmonwy
      Minnesota laughs for hours on end. And Werenski already said he is only interested ib waiving for Detroit


      Werenski doesn't have no-trade protection. He's not eligible for it until his 8th NHL season or until he's 27 years old.
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      15 juin 2021 à 20 h 56
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      Werenski doesn't have no-trade protection. He's not eligible for it until his 8th NHL season or until he's 27 years old.

      You have pretty good opinions. Let’s say all these guys are on the table for LA, would you think about this or is it way too much?

      It’s obviously all our prospects in a couple of baskets but that D corps sure is a hell of a corps and they get the young LW.

      Now obviously it’ll be one trade for a high end LHD or winger and then go UFA route for the other that doesn’t come by trade. But it’s so crazy to think LA can basically trade anything to get anyone and pay those players
      15 juin 2021 à 21 h 4
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      Quoting: KINGS67
      You have pretty good opinions. Let’s say all these guys are on the table for LA, would you think about this or is it way too much?

      It’s obviously all our prospects in a couple of baskets but that D corps sure is a hell of a corps and they get the young LW.

      Now obviously it’ll be one trade for a high end LHD or winger and then go UFA route for the other that doesn’t come by trade. But it’s so crazy to think LA can basically trade anything to get anyone and pay those players


      I don't think there's any bundle of assets that you could package up that would entice Minnesota to trade Kaprizov. If he was on the Kings, I wouldn't trade him unless someone like McDavid or MacKinnon was coming back. That kid is amazing.

      That's a bit more than I'm comfortable paying for Werenski. I'd do the #8 + Turcotte or Vilardi + a roster player or lesser prospect. You have two too many pieces in there for my tastes. By the way, Werenski's qualifying offer next year is $7M (his salary from next season).

      I would not pay Hamilton $9M/season. I don't think I'd pay Hamilton $7M/season. The Kings can't be paying 2nd pairing defensemen that much money. I'd make a huge splash for a #1 LHD, but I wouldn't spend more than $5M or so on a second pair RHD behind Doughty. Walker and Roy are fine for now. Faber and Grans (and maybe Spence) are coming up in the next couple seasons. I don't see any reason to tie up that much cap space on someone like Hamilton.
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      15 juin 2021 à 21 h 15
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      I don't think there's any bundle of assets that you could package up that would entice Minnesota to trade Kaprizov. If he was on the Kings, I wouldn't trade him unless someone like McDavid or MacKinnon was coming back. That kid is amazing.

      That's a bit more than I'm comfortable paying for Werenski. I'd do the #8 + Turcotte or Vilardi + a roster player or lesser prospect. You have two too many pieces in there for my tastes. By the way, Werenski's qualifying offer next year is $7M (his salary from next season).

      I would not pay Hamilton $9M/season. I don't think I'd pay Hamilton $7M/season. The Kings can't be paying 2nd pairing defensemen that much money. I'd make a huge splash for a #1 LHD, but I wouldn't spend more than $5M or so on a second pair RHD behind Doughty. Walker and Roy are fine for now. Faber and Grans (and maybe Spence) are coming up in the next couple seasons. I don't see any reason to tie up that much cap space on someone like Hamilton.

      Looking forward to seeing faber. Grans and definitely Spence. Spence is doing really good things right now
      15 juin 2021 à 21 h 20
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      As others have pointed out, Kap isn’t getting traded. But since this is just a thought exercise, IMO if he were on the market then the Wild better be committing to a full rebuild until ZP and Parise are off the books. If they were to lose Kaprizov, I wouldn’t at all care about staying competitive. I’d want them to sell all assets for futures and prep for a re-emergence in 4 years after those anchors are gone. So I’d like a package to be more future centric. Drop Iafallo, adjust to include Turcotte, better picks...something more focused on that.
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      15 juin 2021 à 21 h 22
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      Minnesota laughs for hours on end. And Werenski already said he is only interested ib waiving for Detroit

      Source?
      15 juin 2021 à 21 h 46
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      His butt, since Werenski has no ability to block a trade.
       
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