That should be a reasonable price for him, but Im guessing he gets 7x8.5

Trouba is making 8m… I don’t see him making less especially w him being the big fish of free agency

Yeah Trouba is overpaid but Hamilton shouldn't get overpaid too lol. 2 negatives don't equal a positive and btw Trouba is better at defense than Hamilton

That probably should be it, but I think you'll be two mil short.

I like the rationale on the Ducks trade. I think Gibson would be an interesting add. Is he that much better than Nedeljkovic and Mrazek? I'm not so sure, but it's ideal for Carolina to have a long term goaltender with this core. Hakanpaa is not an every day D man, and Hamilton is really a liability on the back end. You could probably improve in free agency or via trade. A lot of teams are open for business this offseason.

Uhhh, no he isn't. Neither are good defensively, but Hamilton is at least aware of the defensive zone... Trouba... isn't

As for this, Nedeljkovic is a better goaltender right now than Gibson. Why would Carolina move their stud of the future for a guy who's nearly 30? That's one way to make the team significantly older. If you had done this with Kochetkov or Makiniemi who have been domestic starters in Europe... we're having a different conversation. But why on gods green earth would Carolina move Nedeljkovic right now?

I don't see that Gibson trade from the Canes side. Under Rod, we've never been a single goalie type of team. Maybe that is because we've never had a goalie the caliber of Gibson, but I think it is the GM philosophy

It’s free agency… everyone gets overpaid.

56.03cf% 56.07ff% 56.55xgf% DH.

49.37cf% 50.85ff% 50.11xgf% JT

Doesn’t look like he’s better 😊

Trouba is actually average at best Hamilton is really good.

his agent wanted Pitrangelo money and with his point totals and skills someone is gonna give him 8.8 x 7

Nedeljkovic is a longer term answer in goal than Gibson.... why would Carolina consider this? Oh, and Hakanpaa was fantastic in Carolina.

Also, saying Hamilton is a defensive liability is a joke. He's not Slavin, but he isn't Brent Burns

I agree. Trouba is actually trash. What a terrible contract. Hamilton at least has upside… Trouba is a massive cap dump.

Uhhhhhhh Hamilton was literally used as a dumping tool TWO years in a row by BOS and it worked, because his defense stinks. Trouba's been a rock at D this entire season.

Also are you really gonna compare a goalie who's been basically alone in carrying his team since 2018 with someone who's played what, 30 games in the NHL?

Because it NEVER, EVER happens that a goalie plays fantastic for a while and then gets back down to earth right? Oh wait, Matt Murray and Jordan Binnington literally just did this in these past 2-3 seasons.

Okay, he isn't Brent Burns circa 2015 or 2017 but the last two seasons Burns has actually been very solid defensively.

Wouldn't surprise me if someone desperate enough topped that offer.

Murray you can argue was playing poorly because of his poor defense and Binnington was just never good. He was a product of St Louis' incredible blueline.

Hamilton is FAR better defensively than Trouba. If you look beyond the time Hamilton was 19 and 20, he's been incredible. Mainly for his offense, but he's not stupid defensively. Trouba on the other hand has had terrible seasons when he hasn't had someone like Morrisey to babysit him

I'm talking stereotypical Brent Burns... no one really cares about how Brent Burns has been recently.

Remove your Carolina glasses. Hamilton was BAD in the bubble, like he made so many defensive mistakes it was hilarious and was meh in these playoffs.

Trouba has been a massive disappointment offensively but his defense has been rock solid, and he’s done that without a partner like Slavin.

Also I’m sorry but STL’s D-core was very good but not elite. They had a number one in Petro a number 2 in Parayko but no real number 3, Bouwmeester had severely declined, Dunn is not a number 3, Edmundson is a number 4 and Gunnarsson/Boetuzzo are number 6s. Remove Binnington’s unbelievable run and STL doesn’t even come close to the SC. Their run STARTED when he showed up for god’s sake

Gibson trade isn’t awful. I think the Ducks would ask for a little more. But it’s pretty reasonable

They should trade for Eichel instead of extending Hamilton.

I hope that's plan b

They have a lot of good forward prospects, and draft picks that won’t be high first. Plus they would have the best center core in the league.

No it's not a joke. The team that overpays for him will be sorry. Hakanpaa is a 7 on a contending team, not a 5 or 6. The Canes tried to pull a Capitals and get a cheap D man for a cup run (Kempny in 2018) and it didn't work. Gibson is an elite goaltender on a great contract. Ned is a good goalie, but I don't think his ceiling is as high. The trade might be off, but if Carolina is trying to win now, it's probably not an unreasonable move. Ned will have growing pains. Gibson has been through that.

unless he gets more through signing bonuses yeah he aint making more than 8.8.

For instance he can have a cap hit of 6.5 but his signing bonuses would need to be double digits for the first 4 years of his 7 year deal to get him into satisfied range

Not gonna happen. Also I think contracts with so much fluctuating in salary got banned in the last CBA. There's much stricter rules in there now.

A team like EDM or PHI who's desperate to get better could very well offer him $9M.

no teams can give big signing bonuses but they cannot give out more than 3-4 years in double digits I believe. Before it could be for the entirety of the contract. In general though usually SB in the double digits rarely occur for more than 3 years as lets be real, besides Toronto and the Rangers who has the money to give double digit bonuses. Like Oilers are giving Mcdavid double digit bonus but they cannot afford to give anyone else lul.