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Créé par: Blizz
Équipe: 2021-22 Wild du Minnesota
Date de création initiale: 9 juin 2021
Publié: 9 juin 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
57 750 000 $
55 000 000 $
54 500 000 $
11 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
12 250 000 $
12 000 000 $
1750 000 $
13 250 000 $
Transactions
1.
MIN
  1. Braun, Justin
  2. Patrick, Nolan [Droits de RFA]
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (PHI)
PHI
  1. Dumba, Matt
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2021 (MIN)
2.
MIN
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2021 (DET)
DET
  1. Parise, Zach
  2. Rask, Victor
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (PIT)
  4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (MIN)
  5. Choix de 4e ronde en 2022 (MIN)
Détails additionnels:
Pay Detroit a 1st plus a 3rd to take a year of Rask and Buyout the Parise contract
3.
BUF
  1. Rossi, Marco
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (MIN)
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (PHI)
Détails additionnels:
Not sure if this is enough to get Eichel, maybe a future 2nd or 3rd added.
4.
MIN
SEA
  1. Soucy, Carson
Détails additionnels:
Selected by Seattle
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2021
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Logo de PIT
Logo de DET
Logo de MIN
Logo de MIN
Logo de MIN
2022
Logo de MIN
Logo de MIN
Logo de MIN
Logo de MIN
Logo de SJS
Logo de MIN
2023
Logo de MIN
Logo de MIN
Logo de MIN
Logo de MIN
Logo de MIN
Logo de MIN
Logo de MIN
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $76 043 333 $0 $815 000 $5 456 667 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
7 750 000 $7 750 000 $
AG
UFA - 5
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
10 000 000 $10 000 000 $
C
UFA - 5
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AD, AG
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
3 100 000 $3 100 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
C
UFA - 8
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
880 833 $880 833 $ (Bonis de performance600 000 $$600K)
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
725 000 $725 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
AG, C, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 3
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
3 650 000 $3 650 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
7 575 000 $7 575 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
3 666 667 $3 666 667 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
795 000 $795 000 $ (Bonis de performance132 500 $$132K)
DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
825 833 $825 833 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
G
RFA - 2
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
725 000 $725 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
750 000 $750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Équipe de réserve
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
825 833 $825 833 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
AG, C
RFA - 1

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9 juin 2021 à 4 h 59
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Philly probably takes that, but you haven;t signed him?
9 juin 2021 à 5 h 2
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Have you looked at the buyout of Parise contract? I
21-22: 2.3 mil
22-23: 6.3 mil
23-24: 7.3 mil
24-25: 7.3 mil
Then 25-29 = 833,333

That's going to cost a lot more then a 1st and a 3rd to move. The cost would be so bad and painful that you would agree that its just better to keep him.
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9 juin 2021 à 5 h 5
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Quoting: Hammerwise
Philly probably takes that, but you haven;t signed him?


Whoops thought I did, had him on a one year one mil deal originally...

edited spelling
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9 juin 2021 à 5 h 11
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Have you looked at the buyout of Parise contract? I
21-22: 2.3 mil
22-23: 6.3 mil
23-24: 7.3 mil
24-25: 7.3 mil
Then 25-29 = 833,333

That's going to cost a lot more then a 1st and a 3rd to move. The cost would be so bad and painful that you would agree that its just better to keep him.


It could for sure, but I think for a team like Detroit it may be enough especially with it costing essentially nothing but a swap of 4ths
9 juin 2021 à 5 h 19
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It could for sure, but I think for a team like Detroit it may be enough especially with it costing essentially nothing but a swap of 4ths


The Red Wings charged the Rangers a 2nd for a Staal a player they could use and cost a total of 5.7 against the cap this is almost 5 times that (buyout cap hit total is 26.8) amount and 8 times the term. They are going to ask a price that the Wild will not pay.
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9 juin 2021 à 5 h 31
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Eichel deal gets pretty easily outbid. You're light at least 1 piece. And that piece is not a future 2nd or 3rd. Think NHL player or top 5 organizational prospect. You can probably work Rask into the Eichel deal as well since the Sabres will have the space.
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9 juin 2021 à 5 h 33
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It could for sure, but I think for a team like Detroit it may be enough especially with it costing essentially nothing but a swap of 4ths


Detroit will have more than a half dozen offers of cap dump deals to chose from theese next few weeks.

With the 50-contract rule and everything else that factors in meaning that they can't agree to them all they will chose the ones that brings the best returns for the team. Both the quality of the player and how much help Detroit needs at his position will matter a lot as well as what the cost is both in actual dollars and cap and what return Detroit gets will be used to determine how good the proposed deal is for Detroit.

This will be an auction to see which teams will offer the best deal for Detroit and this deal will not be one of the winners.

If the offer had been 5-6 first round picks then maybe you'd be in with a chance...
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9 juin 2021 à 5 h 51
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It could for sure, but I think for a team like Detroit it may be enough especially with it costing essentially nothing but a swap of 4ths


First, welcome to Cap Friendly. The Parise contract is untradeable but with that being said we'll do it for both your 1sts this year, your 2022 1st (unprotected) and Marco Rossi. And I'm being generous...
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9 juin 2021 à 5 h 55
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What you are forgetting with this, it's entirely still up to Parise, or any other players to say yes.

The wild shouldn't risk losing two top 4 d with Soucy, & Dumba
9 juin 2021 à 5 h 55
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Quoting: RedWing9119
First, welcome to Cap Friendly. The Parise contract is untradeable but with that being said we'll do it for both your 1sts this year, your 2022 1st (unprotected) and Marco Rossi. And I'm being generous...


How about you are dreaming
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No chance like ever
9 juin 2021 à 6 h 35
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Quoting: BoeserSZNMNBoy
How about you are dreaming
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No chance like ever


I think you missed the point entirely.

Yes Minnesota would not trade that to get rid of Parise, but the Wings or any other team with cap space is not doing it for a 1st and a 3rd. You are asking a team to absorb over 30 million in cap if they do. To buy him out is going to cost 6.66 million but the cap hit over the 8 years is 26 million in total.

If you look at comparables, it took a 1st to get a team to take and buyout Marleau for 1 year and 6 million or a 1st and retention and other pieces for Backes and his 2 year 6 million dollar cap hit. This trade is 4 times that of Marleau and almost 3 times as long as Backes' deal.

What he is trying to say is he can not be traded unless Minny pays and pays what they would think is way too much. He is not saying Minny would do it, just what it would take. Thus his all cap UNTRADEABLE, comment.
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9 juin 2021 à 6 h 36
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Quoting: BoeserSZNMNBoy
That you are this offended calling a stranger you don't know names is very telling

Not going to argue your ignorant statement exaggerating that it would cost Ross, & more


I didn't call you any names and your response is bizarre. Toronto paid a 1st for 6.25. What's your argument? If this site upsets you so much that you can't make a lucid argument then maybe it's not the place for you.
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9 juin 2021 à 6 h 40
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Quoting: BoeserSZNMNBoy
That you are this offended calling a stranger you don't know names is very telling

Not going to argue your ignorant statement exaggerating that it would cost Ross, & more


While the drug comment is wrong, your also guilty of calling his comment ignorant is wrong. As I said, it is 26 million dollar cap hit over 8 years, and no team is doing that for a single 1st and a 3rd, it will cost and probably not what Minnesota is willing to pay.
9 juin 2021 à 6 h 44
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Quoting: mikearky
I think you missed the point entirely.

Yes Minnesota would not trade that to get rid of Parise, but the Wings or any other team with cap space is not doing it for a 1st and a 3rd. You are asking a team to absorb over 30 million in cap if they do. To buy him out is going to cost 6.66 million but the cap hit over the 8 years is 26 million in total.

If you look at comparables, it took a 1st to get a team to take and buyout Marleau for 1 year and 6 million or a 1st and retention and other pieces for Backes and his 2 year 6 million dollar cap hit. This trade is 4 times that of Marleau and almost 3 times as long as Backes' deal.

What he is trying to say is he can not be traded unless Minny pays and pays what they would think is way too much. He is not saying Minny would do it, just what it would take. Thus his all cap UNTRADEABLE, comment.

I put it in caps the second time because the poster obviously didn't read the first time I said it.
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9 juin 2021 à 6 h 51
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While the drug comment is wrong, your also guilty of calling his comment ignorant is wrong. As I said, it is 26 million dollar cap hit over 8 years, and no team is doing that for a single 1st and a 3rd, it will cost and probably not what Minnesota is willing to pay.


That comment is no more "wrong" then calling someone crazy or insane which is the bread and butter of this site. If they are going to say something outlandish then they better be willing to support it with an actual argument or they're just wasting everyone's time.
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