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Créé par: Alfie11
Équipe: 2020-21 Kraken de Seattle
Date de création initiale: 25 mai 2021
Publié: 26 mai 2021
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I'm trying to do a proper, full expansion draft, and would like some input on these teams if y'all don't mind. These were some teams I had questions about. I'm not gonna ask for every team because I think I have a fairly good idea for most, and often if I'm struggling to make a decision for the 7th forward or whatever it doesn't matter anyway because it's likely the 4th D or 2nd G gets taken regardless, but if you're here and want to provide another protection list for your fave team feel free of course, I'm always down to learn more about other teams.
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MIN
    Is this gonna be Minnesota's protection list? I would assume they value Dumba over any other individual forward they would want to protect and could lose, but it's tough leaving guys like Greenway, Foligno unprotected (or JEE if I'm mistaken and one of these guys would be protected over him). If the Wild can't swing a Dumba trade prior to the expansion draft, would they be a team willing to give up assets to protect Greenway and Foligno? It'll be a tough choice for Seattle regardless, but the Wild are poised to lose a good player without a deal in place (either Talbot or Greenway would be my guess given this as the list).
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    NSH
      I'm assuming Nashville goes with the 4/4/1 route again, is this accurate? If so, are Jarnkrok and Kunin the two extra forwards that get protected (Forsberg and Arvidsson are no-brainers to me)? I feel like the only other guy I'd consider using a slot on is Trenin. Is there any way Duchene or Johansen might get protected? I feel like those would be contracts the Preds would like out of so they'll both be exposed, and honestly Seattle might take a chance on one of them if they can't get enough quality centres elsewhere.
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      PIT
        These are the guys I know are getting protected but I'm really not sure about the rest lol. I would assume Zucker/McCann/Dumoulin/Pettersson, is that accurate? Did Matheson improve enough to be worth protecting? Would Tanev, Blueger, or Carter edge out Zucker or McCann?
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        STL
          Who's the 7th forward they're gonna protect? I would assume one of Blais, Sundqvist, or Sanford, but I'm not sure who is the current best of that bunch. The real question is though, any shot the 2 unprotected guys gets taken over Dunn?
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          WPG
            I'm assuming only one of these forwards and one of these defensemen get kept. Which ones? I'd personally be partial to Appleton and DeMelo but idk, teams like big guys and Stanley/Lowry are massive, plus I know Lowry's useful on the PK. I'd assume Seattle probably goes with the unprotected forward here regardless.
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            26 mai 2021 à 3 h 50
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            Even while injured, Sundqvist will be protected. And while I hope they would expose Krug and protect Dunn, I can;t say that is what will happen.

            And I'm pretty sure the Wild would protect Greenway before Zuccs.
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            26 mai 2021 à 3 h 56
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            gonna have to think the Jets will try to strike a deal again, the organizations very loyal to their players and the piece we could stand to lose wouldn't be very expendable
            26 mai 2021 à 4 h 1
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            Quoting: mokumboi
            Even while injured, Sundqvist will be protected. And while I hope they would expose Krug and protect Dunn, I can;t say that is what will happen.

            And I'm pretty sure the Wild would protect Greenway before Zuccs.


            Zuccarello has a NMC, so unless he waves, he'll be protected.
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            26 mai 2021 à 4 h 10
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            You're spot on for the Wild. It'll likely come down to either Greenway or Talbot. However, our Athletic beat-writer Michael Russo has been chattering for the last week that Seattle might have some interest in Carson Soucy. Why they would take him over either Greenway or Talbot I've no clue, but it's there irregardless of that fact.

            The thing is though, we might be possible candidates to make a side deal with Seattle too. Guerin is on record that would make a deal if it came to that if it meant keeping someone like Foligno, so who knows. It's an enigma, even to ourselves. 🤷‍♂️
            26 mai 2021 à 4 h 13
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            Quoting: mokumboi
            Even while injured, Sundqvist will be protected. And while I hope they would expose Krug and protect Dunn, I can;t say that is what will happen.

            And I'm pretty sure the Wild would protect Greenway before Zuccs.

            Zucc has a NMC. He was also their 2nd best producer in terms of points per game this year so it's jot like he's a bum yet either. Good to know about Sundqvist. As a fan of the Blues, is there any upside to Blais or Sanford that might entice Seattle to take one of them, or is taking Dunn pretty much a no-brainer? I'd assume the latter tbh but I do hear a lot of hype around Blais (to be fair though, most of that comes from the fantasy community who love his hits production lol)

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            gonna have to think the Jets will try to strike a deal again, the organizations very loyal to their players and the piece we could stand to lose wouldn't be very expendable

            Who would they want to protect? I would assume this means the Jets would try to protect both Lowry and Appleton, sacrificing a pick or prospect to get Seattle to claim whichever one of DeMelo/Stanley gets left available instead of the forward they have to leave available, is that right? Which one of DeMelo/Stanley is valued higher rn btw?
            26 mai 2021 à 4 h 17
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            Quoting: RazWild
            You're spot on for the Wild. It'll likely come down to either Greenway or Talbot. However, our Athletic beat-writer Michael Russo has been chattering for the last week that Seattle might have some interest in Carson Soucy. Why they would take him over either Greenway or Talbot I've no clue, but it's there irregardless of that fact.

            The thing is though, we might be possible candidates to make a side deal with Seattle too. Guerin is on record that would make a deal if it came to that if it meant keeping someone like Foligno, so who knows. It's an enigma, even to ourselves. 🤷‍♂️

            Good to know, thanks for your input. I'd have to imagine Soucy only becomes an option if they manage to trade Dumba and thus go 7-3-1, but Talbot would probably still be the better selection, if for no other reason than he can be immediately swapped for more value than Soucy has to a team desperate for a goalie. What would a side deal look like potentially? Hartman and a 2nd to select Soucy ("protecting" Talbot/Greenway/Foligno)?
            26 mai 2021 à 4 h 33
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            Penguins will protect Crosby, Malkin, Guentzel, Rust, Kapanen, McCann, Blueger, Letang, Dumoulin, Matheson, and Jarry. I really don’t think Pettersson edges out Matheson after last season. Leaves a guy like Tanev, ZAR, Pettersson, and Desmith for Seattle realistically.
            26 mai 2021 à 4 h 41
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            Quoting: Alfie11
            Zucc has a NMC. He was also their 2nd best producer in terms of points per game this year so it's jot like he's a bum yet either. Good to know about Sundqvist. As a fan of the Blues, is there any upside to Blais or Sanford that might entice Seattle to take one of them, or is taking Dunn pretty much a no-brainer? I'd assume the latter tbh but I do hear a lot of hype around Blais (to be fair though, most of that comes from the fantasy community who love his hits production lol)


            Who would they want to protect? I would assume this means the Jets would try to protect both Lowry and Appleton, sacrificing a pick or prospect to get Seattle to claim whichever one of DeMelo/Stanley gets left available instead of the forward they have to leave available, is that right? Which one of DeMelo/Stanley is valued higher rn btw?

            Jets probably going to offer up something to stay off demelo or Appleton, I was hoping they were going to try and sneak Lowry through as a ufa and protect Appleton, but they just resigned him longterm. I would let them pick between demelo or Appleton or possibly berdin. But all reasonably replaceable
            26 mai 2021 à 5 h 6
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            Quoting: Alfie11
            Good to know, thanks for your input. I'd have to imagine Soucy only becomes an option if they manage to trade Dumba and thus go 7-3-1, but Talbot would probably still be the better selection, if for no other reason than he can be immediately swapped for more value than Soucy has to a team desperate for a goalie. What would a side deal look like potentially? Hartman and a 2nd to select Soucy ("protecting" Talbot/Greenway/Foligno)?


            Not sure, but I'm not convinced it'd be Hartman that's moved because of it.

            He just re-signed to a 3 year extension for $200k less than what he makes now. $1.7M to be exact.

            He was expected to likely get $2.7-3M out on the open market. The guy wants to be here, and thinks we're on the verge of being something special, and is tired of moving around. There aren't too many guys out there who're willing to take less than what they deserve because they like where their at and rather have the security of being in a single place with longer term than the larger payday.

            You don't reward that kind of loyalty by moving them afterwards. No one would ever consider signing here again.

            That said. We've got a top ten prospect pool and a plethora of draft picks. I wouldn't be surprised if either was dipped into in order to protect the others in case of a side deal.
            26 mai 2021 à 6 h 34
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            Quoting: RazWild
            Zuccarello has a NMC, so unless he waves, he'll be protected.


            Oh, that's right. Dur.
            26 mai 2021 à 6 h 37
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            Quoting: Alfie11
            Zucc has a NMC. He was also their 2nd best producer in terms of points per game this year so it's jot like he's a bum yet either.

            Good to know about Sundqvist. As a fan of the Blues, is there any upside to Blais or Sanford that might entice Seattle to take one of them, or is taking Dunn pretty much a no-brainer? I'd assume the latter tbh but I do hear a lot of hype around Blais (to be fair though, most of that comes from the fantasy community who love his hits production lol)



            1- I know he's not a bum, but he's getting up there and has a big contract.

            2- First of all, I would hope it doesn't come to Dunn being on the exposed list. They may every well trade him, but I'm hoping Krug is traded/exposed instead. Just taking a guess, I'd think Seattle would be more interested in Blais than Sanford, and I also would not put it past them to snag Barby or even Walman.
            26 mai 2021 à 8 h 10
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            i think the pens will protect mccann, dumo letang and probably pettersson. zucker might be seattles best option
            26 mai 2021 à 8 h 22
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            I think the Jets protect Stanley and Lowry, that said I think the Jets expose Copp + for a RHD that Seattle picks in the draft (Manson for example). I don’t think Chevy would have signed Lowry to and extension so soon without having something in mind or already planned
            26 mai 2021 à 10 h 26
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            I think you're right on the Preds. I don't see Johansen or Duchene being protected given that they're currently not getting PP time in the playoffs. There's definitely not 7 forwards worth protecting, but barely 4 with those two underperforming.
             
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