Wanna stat check that?

Wilson: 13G, 20A, 33P in 45 games

Nylander: 17G, 24A, 41 points in 49 games (including his goal tonight so there's time for more)

Last I checked 41 is higher than 33 but I guess I could be wrong on that 🤷🏻‍♂️


Edit: Zach Hyman scores at the same rate as Wilson as Hyman has 15G, 18A, 33 points in 43 games. He plays a physical role and doesn't cross the line as severely or as much as Wilson does. I'd be a hell of a lot happier with Hyman on my team than Wilson any day of the year.

Those are pretty easy to read stats. Wasn't making it complicated and they're stats that contradict everything you said. Sorry it doesn't support your opinion?

& you need to re-read everything I said. I never once said Washington should trade him and this isn't my thread. I'm just pointing out that he's not worth as much as Caps fans think.

So Nylander has 8 more points in 4 more games?
Nylander .83ppg roughy 60points
Wilson .73ppg roughly 68 points

I’d say that’s pretty similar lmfao. Especially when you factor Wilson plays in a division with the lowest expected g/60 and Nylander plays in the highest. 8 points is a massive. Well worth the comment

0.83 > 0.73 last I checked. That doesn't seem too hard to understand

I have no horse in this race - both clubs are certifiably puke-worthy.
However, could always retain on BB cause that's what it'll probably take, as per MHockey91, for any of this chin wagging to make a diff and get executed...

Wilson is so much more valuable than overrated Nylander lmfao. If Nylander played on any team other than Toronto no one would talk about him.

He knows that already. lol if he doesn’t he’s more clueless than I thought

Rust > Nylander

I think they’re definitely comparable even though a lot of leafs fans still say Willy is better than Jake lol. Nylander definitely more skilled than rust, but rust works way harder and is better in his own zone.

Jake is on Marners level

I’d say he’s between nylander and marner. Better than Willy, but not as good as marner

But if you include cap hit, that’s a different story...

When you finish three checks a game, even if you line them all up clean, some guys will try to duck, and end up in dangerous positions in the last 0.2 seconds. Carlo and Sundqvist should have been clean hits. I don't fault Wilson because I watched in slow motion and didn't see intent to injure. Before the Sundqvist suspension I thought Beagle carried him defensively and he was just an agitator. Seeing him get an unnecessary quarter season suspension made Wilson more sympathetic to me as a Caps fan, and I came to appreciate his hard work on the PK even after Beagle got that huge offer from Vancouver.

Thank you for clarifying that you are not OP and don't want Wilson. That's fine. Ovechkin is safer and scores more with Wilson, so Wilson is not available.

Lol.

Thanks, bud.

I’ll gladly take the 50-60 points Wilson gets vs the 60-70 points Willy gets considering all the other things Wilson brings. I hate Wilson so much, I’m a Pens fan, but I know how valuable he can be. I’ve seen first hand

Getting suspended almost every season? Yeah that seems like a smart way to go.

Yeah he’s a dirty player and I don’t like Wilson, but I’ve witnessed first hand on multiple occasions how he can change / impact a game.

So can Nylander. In a legal way. & point per game are nothing. If you don't think Nylander creates more offence than Wilson Althea I'm sorry but you don't know hockey. As for Wilson's physicality, I'd rather Hyman over Wilson who are similar types of players, but Hyman isn't dirty like Wilson.

Since when was Nylander a PPG? Nylander is literally a 60-70 point player vs Wilson who is 50-60 points. Nylander produces at a similar rate to Bryan Rust yet gets pegged as a star because of the market he plays in. He is a good player, but Wilson does so much more. Nylander produces more than Wilson, but not significantly more considering everything else Wilson brings

I think when comparing Willson to Willy, it just boils down to what your team needs more. I’d say they are in a similar tier in terms of importance

When did I say Nylander was a point per game? I said points per game are nothing. It's a garbage way to compare players. Nylander is a 60-70 point player on Toronto because he's the 4th or 5th player to get the puck. Put him on a team where he's the go to guy and he'd be over a point per game. But that isn't shown in stats. Nylander is far far more the offensive player that Wilson is. Bryan Rust isn't a star player. He's a complimentary player. He plays with Malkin and Crosby, if he has a lesser centre then he wouldn't be anywhere near his point production. That's why points per game is a garbage stat to compare players by. Because it's just a point, it's not saying how he got those points.

Look at Draisaitl for an example. Just looking at his point per game pace at 1.49 and you'd think he's a top 3 offensive player in the league. But is he when you break it down?
47 EV strength points - 27 of them McDavid has factored in on (57.4%)

32 powerplay points - 25 of them McDavid has factored in on (78.1%)

79 total points - 62 of them McDavid has factored in on (78.4%)

30 total goals - 21 McDavid has recorded an assist on (70%)

30 total goals - 14 of them McDavid had the primary assist on (46.6%)

So without McDavid, is Draisaitl at 1.49ppg and is he hyped up like he is now? Absolutely not. That's not to say he's a bad player, he just may be one of the most overrated in the league.

Point production is absolutely a great way to evaluate players. You say if rust had a lesser centre than he wouldn’t produce at the rate he does… meanwhile Nylander also plays with an elite centre so where is your excuse there??? Nylander is probably better than rust but Nylander is closer to a player like Rust than he is to actual elite forwards. Nylander is overrated. Bottom line. He produces at a 60-70 point rate like many other dime a dozen forwards. If you take Nylander off Toronto his production wouldn’t improve LOL it would likely go down.

Lol. Sorry, couldn't bother to read anything after e first sentence. Point per game pace is an absolute horrible way to evaluate players.

Tyson Barrie has gotten I believe 4 or 5 points from simply dropping a pass maybe 2 feet to McDavid at his own goal line with no one between him, only to have McDavid skate the entire ice by himself to score. That's a point for Barrie every time but did he really do a lot on those plays to say he has a lot of skill? You could put a 10 year old on the ice to do that and still get a point. Which is the exact reason why point per game pace is an awful way to evaluate players. But sure, use that as your reason to justify Wilson being a good player. Oh sorry, that and "physical play" where he consistently crosses the line. Wanna talk about an overrated player? Better start talking about Wilson more. Move him to a team or on a line with an average centre and watch him get no more than 30 points. Move Nylander to a line where he controls the line and watch his points immediately increase.

If you’re gonna be so arrogant that you don’t read my comment, then I gladly will ignore yours.

Please do. Anyone that says that Nylander is "closer to a player like Rust than elite" doesn't seem to know much. Rust is the modern day Chris Kunitz. He's nothing without a good centre

LMAO... saying a prime Kunitz is better than Nylander is the best joke I've heard! 😂 ... Kunitz was nothing away from Crosby. & everyone in the league knew he only made team Canada because of his chemistry with Crosby. If you actually think Kunitz made team Canada based on his skill, that tells me all I need to know about how much you know about hockey 😂

Lol. Just because I disagree with you and bring evidence to the conversation about it doesn't mean I'm a troll. Nice to see where this generation of people are so soft and can't even hold a debate without taking it personally 😂