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2022 Olympics american team

Créé par: heldorack
Équipe: 2020-21 Équipe personnalisée
Date de création initiale: 20 avr. 2021
Publié: 20 avr. 2021
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20 avr. 2021 à 17 h 21
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This is solid, but 5 out of your 6 d men are really offensively oriented. First step, get Quinn Hughes out of there. So over hyped. With how horrible he is at everything but the offensive game, he can’t be a .75 point per game guy and make a team like this. I don’t think he’s even considered. Probably the 12th or so guy they look at. Slavin is a good choice to replace him.

I would also have tkachuk on a higher line, and i think garland might make the team over Keller.
20 avr. 2021 à 17 h 26
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I keep saying it. Don't sleep on Rust. My man is a 30+ goal scorer. He's fast, can play defense, very under rated guy. He's the kind of team guy you need to go all out and win.
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20 avr. 2021 à 17 h 31
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Larkin and Gaudreau probably make the team. Replace Krug with Slavin
20 avr. 2021 à 17 h 31
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I keep saying it. Don't sleep on Rust. My man is a 30+ goal scorer. He's fast, can play defense, very under rated guy. He's the kind of team guy you need to go all out and win.


Yup.
20 avr. 2021 à 18 h 25
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
This is solid, but 5 out of your 6 d men are really offensively oriented. First step, get Quinn Hughes out of there. So over hyped. With how horrible he is at everything but the offensive game, he can’t be a .75 point per game guy and make a team like this. I don’t think he’s even considered. Probably the 12th or so guy they look at. Slavin is a good choice to replace him.

I would also have tkachuk on a higher line, and i think garland might make the team over Keller.


Which one of Fox and McAvoy are you mislabeling horribly?
20 avr. 2021 à 18 h 26
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Which one of Fox and McAvoy are you mislabeling horribly?


I’m not saying fox is bad defensively or anything. He’s a good all around d man, but i do think his game is oriented towards offense. Do you disagree with that?
20 avr. 2021 à 18 h 57
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Jones and Guentzel will be be starters. Easily.
20 avr. 2021 à 19 h 3
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Larkin and Gaudreau probably make the team. Replace Krug with Slavin

I completely forgot Larkin and I don't think Gaudreau misses because he's not good but because all the young players will take a pretty big leap by that time
for the Dmen, I cannot in good conscience put Petry over any of these guys so you're stuck with at least 2 lines where it's offensive dmen cause that's all the US have honestly. Unless a player like Carlo takes a massive leap, I don't see how you can make this defense more defensive
also sorry Pens fans but you overrate Guentzel and Rust, they're not better than any forward on this team cause they're definitely not better than Gaudreau who would be the last cut.
20 avr. 2021 à 19 h 8
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I completely forgot Larkin and I don't think Gaudreau misses because he's not good but because all the young players will take a pretty big leap by that time
for the Dmen, I cannot in good conscience put Petry over any of these guys so you're stuck with at least 2 lines where it's offensive dmen cause that's all the US have honestly. Unless a player like Carlo takes a massive leap, I don't see how you can make this defense more defensive
also sorry Pens fans but you overrate Guentzel and Rust, they're not better than any forward on this team cause they're definitely not better than Gaudreau who would be the last cut.


Slavin is better than every LD you have here
20 avr. 2021 à 19 h 13
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Slavin is better than every LD you have here


forgot him, adding him in
20 avr. 2021 à 19 h 14
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Not bad, I think Debrincat probably makes it, though.
20 avr. 2021 à 19 h 17
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forgot about him, it's a close call between him, Garland or Gaudreau, wouldn't be against any of the 3, depends on what you think you would need more
20 avr. 2021 à 19 h 18
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
I’m not saying fox is bad defensively or anything. He’s a good all around d man, but i do think his game is oriented towards offense. Do you disagree with that?


I think he's really solid both ways
20 avr. 2021 à 19 h 21
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forgot about him, it's a close call between him, Garland or Gaudreau, wouldn't be against any of the 3, depends on what you think you would need more


I think Wheeler is aging out and J. Hughes is too young
20 avr. 2021 à 19 h 59
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I think he's really solid both ways


So what’s your answer to my question?
21 avr. 2021 à 3 h 26
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So what’s your answer to my question?


So - not really, no. Unless you want to define offensively oriented as anything but exactly as good on O as D. But I don't think more or less any of the defensemen we recognize as top 20 or so actually provide better defense than offense. I think both McAvoy and Fox are primarily playdrivers, who are defensively solid. I'm not seeing why you'd use 5/6 as an arbitrary cut-off at least, saying that McAvoy is good enough on D but Fox isn't.
21 avr. 2021 à 8 h 18
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So - not really, no. Unless you want to define offensively oriented as anything but exactly as good on O as D. But I don't think more or less any of the defensemen we recognize as top 20 or so actually provide better defense than offense. I think both McAvoy and Fox are primarily playdrivers, who are defensively solid. I'm not seeing why you'd use 5/6 as an arbitrary cut-off at least, saying that McAvoy is good enough on D but Fox isn't.


I have very specifically said that fox is good on d. I think his game is offensively oriented. I don’t see why that’s such a shocking statement. Isn’t he leading the league in points for d men?

This isn’t my team, I’m not using 5/6 as a cut off. Hughes doesn’t even get a call to try out for my team. Krug probably is an extra. Werenski is borderline.
21 avr. 2021 à 9 h 15
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I have very specifically said that fox is good on d. I think his game is offensively oriented. I don’t see why that’s such a shocking statement. Isn’t he leading the league in points for d men?

This isn’t my team, I’m not using 5/6 as a cut off. Hughes doesn’t even get a call to try out for my team. Krug probably is an extra. Werenski is borderline.


Quoting: CMcAvoy73
This is solid, but 5 out of your 6 d men are really offensively oriented. First step, get Quinn Hughes out of there. So over hyped. With how horrible he is at everything but the offensive game, he can’t be a .75 point per game guy and make a team like this. I don’t think he’s even considered. Probably the 12th or so guy they look at. Slavin is a good choice to replace him.

I would also have tkachuk on a higher line, and i think garland might make the team over Keller.


Alright - my issue is this post: Offensively oriented doesn't really mean anything then? 6/6 defensemen can be offensively oriented and you can still be great defensively. I think McAvoy is offensively oriented in the sense that his best skill is driving offense. He's not supressing opponent shots as much as he turns defense into offense. That's something Fox does really well too. I guess I don't see the large distinction between these two players and why one should count for defense but not the other. That's it.
 
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