Vrana to the Leafs

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Quoting: Isles777

There is no chance galchenyuk would play over vrana on the 2nd line. Galchenyuk has been good, not great.

that has improved so much since he got on it. until he falls off its hist spot. which helps dubas for the deadline. also to note leafs lines get mangled up in games so just becasue your advertise on a line dont mean thats where you are for the whole game. hyman was advertised on the 4th but still get 19 minutes in the game. another note is vrana is just a rental. hyman is our priority to resign. i dont see the leafs making a go for vrana.

5 avr. 2021 à 14 h 25

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Quoting: Isles777

Barely over 50% isnt a good number when you have a 60% offensive start usage. These pucks are travelling down ice into his own zone about as often as he keeps them around the opposing teams net despite a 200 foot advantage.

5 avr. 2021 à 14 h 26

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Vrana xGF% is 51.59? thats terrible?

5 avr. 2021 à 14 h 27

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Quoting: Capitalfail67

if Galchenyuk and Vrana were on the same roster you think Galchenyuk would play on the 2nd line over him? lmfao what?!

im coming from a leafs fan perspective. Galchenyuk has been playing great even though some people disagree. i know in this thread as i briefly went through it cuz of just a bunch of **** that i didnt care to read about analytics. Chucky has been great playing wise and analytic. its hard to demote a guy like that because of a trade of a player whos been struggling lately.

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Quoting: Capitalfail67

Vrana xGF% is 51.59? thats terrible?

5 avr. 2021 à 14 h 29

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SOOOO 51.59 isnt terrible? its actually good? lmfao "what else are you lying bout" you ever think the Ozone starts are bc Kuzy and not him?

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Quoting: Capitalfail67

SOOOO 51.59 isnt terrible? its actually good? lmfao "what else are you lying bout"

Did you even read the post you quoted?

5 avr. 2021 à 14 h 31

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Quoting: DroverD2

wow you mean he's been good playing in the worse division in hockey next to 2 great players? remember Sheary when he played for the Penguins? yeah no way he plays over Vrana. its actually embarrassing

5 avr. 2021 à 14 h 34

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Vrana going to a team that needs wingers make sense. Really doesn't make all that much sense to the Leafs.

Capitalfail67 et HappyKampfers a aimé ceci.

5 avr. 2021 à 14 h 34

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Quoting: Byrr

Did you even read the post you quoted?

yes

but its idiotic and untrue that his defensive numbers are "terrible"

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Quoting: Capitalfail67

yes

but its idiotic and untrue that his defensive numbers are "terrible"

Yet you can't argue they arn't as shown by your lack of response to my post.

5 avr. 2021 à 14 h 35

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Quoting: palhal

Vrana going to a team that needs wingers make sense. Really doesn't make all that much sense to the Leafs.

i can respect that but too many people on this thread referring to him as a 3rd liner or downplaying how good he is

5 avr. 2021 à 14 h 36

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Yet you can't argue they arn't as shown by your lack of response to my post.

anything above 50% is good.... lol just saying basically anything above 50% can be called " terrible" just say you were wrong bc you look dumb AF

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well nice try on a civil discussion lol. tried to be sensible. but yea worst division in hockey yet im not seeing the sabres ducks devils wings in it. and the whole 2 great players thing. hes been looking good even when hes not on ice with them. i dont watch capitals hockey so idk the eye test but right now i rather chucky. just my opinion and possibly very well a lot of leafs fans. just to not the value for him though is close imo but as a rental idk.

5 avr. 2021 à 14 h 37

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Quoting: palhal

Vrana going to a team that needs wingers make sense. Really doesn't make all that much sense to the Leafs.

also this

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anything above 50% is good.... lol just saying basically anything above 50% can be called " terrible" just say you were wrong bc you look dumb AF

Anything above 50% would be good if you are starting from center ice. The fact that he starts more frequently than most other players in the offensive zone makes that number very worrisome. Despite a 200 foot advantage, he's giving up as many scoring opportunities as he's generating.

Advanced stats have context and its important to look at it or Jason Spezza would be worth a 1st + prospects.

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Quoting: DroverD2

Look at the players in that division having carrer years its a joke. Devil and Buffalo struggle bc they literally play Washington Pittsburgh Boston and the Islander 28x not to mention Philly who was hot to start and the Rangers who are on fire recently.... that division is loaded it would be hard for an average team to win in that division. strength of competition should be a factor

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Quoting: Byrr

or free on waivers.... lmfao

5 avr. 2021 à 14 h 42

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Quoting: Capitalfail67

or free on waivers.... lmfao

Thanks for showing that the context for stats is important. Nice of you to agree with me.

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also this

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okay Nylander starts 70% of his shifts in the O zone and has a xGF% of 60 does that mean he sucks? or is that good ? hard to tell bc The fact that he starts more frequently than most other players in the offensive zone makes that number very worrisome. Despite a 200 foot advantage, he's giving up as many scoring opportunities as he's generating.

5 avr. 2021 à 14 h 46

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Quoting: Capitalfail67

Do you see a lot of people praising Nylander for his defensive play? Its the most worrisome part of his game. Now imagine putting Vrana in Nylander's position, up against tougher competition while Nylander has better numbers to start with. Thats why Vrana is playing 3rd line minutes.

Also after a quick look, Nylander starts about 60% of his shifts in the offensive zone and has a 60% xGF. You see how that works? Shame you have to lie about the numbers.

5 avr. 2021 à 14 h 48

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Quoting: Byrr

Thanks for showing that the context for stats is important. Nice of you to agree with me.

i mean i think your stupidity is more on display than anything... but solid. massive evidence shown that Vrana is so much more than a3rd liner but you just keep switching your lame ass narrative bc you are a clown and cant properly evaluate a player.

terrible defensively... nope 3rd line.... nope elite offensive underlining numbers.... but you do go onlol

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Quoting: Capitalfail67

terrible defensively... nope 3rd line.... nope elite offensive underlining numbers.... but you do go onlol

After a quick look, Nylander starts about 60% of his shifts in the offensive zone and has a 60% xGF. You see how that works? Shame you have to lie about the numbers again just because they don't agree with your argument.

5 avr. 2021 à 14 h 49

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