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Swing large or dont even bother

Créé par: Trevorchef
Date de création initiale: mar 18, 2021
Publié: 18 mar à 17 h 57
Équipe: 2020-21 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Explications
This would be one of the best top six forward units in the entire NHL. Hands down.

Without expending top tier assets... you take your best swing IMO. This is a great start.

If they can add some depth on the blue line, even better.

Were this ever on the table, I'd do it in a heartbeat.
Transactions
TOR
  1. Hall, Taylor (4 000 000 $ retained)
BUF
  1. Kerfoot, Alexander
  2. 2021 1e round pick (TOR)
  3. 2021 2e round pick (TOR)
Rachats de contrats
  • Mikhail Grabovski: 0 $
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Phil Kessel: 1 200 000 $ (15%)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2021
TOR
TOR
TOR
2022
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
2023
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2181 500 000 $77 463 074 $0 $400 000 $4 036 926 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
TOR
Hyman, Zach
2 250 000 $
AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Matthews, Auston
11 640 250 $
C
UFA - 4
TOR
Marner, Mitchell
10 903 000 $
AD
UFA - 5
TOR
Tavares, John
11 000 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 5
TOR
Nylander, William
6 962 366 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
TOR
Simmonds, Wayne
1 500 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Thornton, Joe
700 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 1
TOR
Mikheyev, Ilya
1 645 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
TOR
Engvall, Pierre
1 250 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 2
TOR
Spezza, Jason
700 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
TOR
Boyd, Travis
700 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
TOR
Rielly, Morgan
5 000 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Brodie, TJ
5 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 4
TOR
Andersen, Frederik
5 000 000 $
G
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Muzzin, Jake
5 625 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 4
TOR
Holl, Justin
2 000 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 3
TOR
Campbell, Jack
1 650 000 $
G
UFA - 2
TOR
Dermott, Travis
874 125 $
DG
RFA - 1
TOR
Bogosian, Zach
1 000 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
TOR
Liljegren, Timothy
863 333 $
DD
RFA - 2
Équipe de réserve
TOR
Hutchinson, Michael
725 000 $ (0 $)
G
UFA - 2
TOR
Galchenyuk, Alex
1 050 000 $ (0 $)
AG, C, AD
UFA - 1
TOR
Barabanov, Alexander
925 000 $ (0 $)
AD, AG
UFA - 1
TOR
Robertson, Nicholas
821 667 $ (0 $)
AG
RFA - 3
TOR
Marincin, Martin
700 000 $ (0 $)
DG
UFA - 1

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18 mar à 18 h 10
#1
Shibbal18
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Sabres pass
18 mar à 18 h 14
#2
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Sabres pass


You think you are going to get more?
18 mar à 18 h 19
#3
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Quoting: CBJStats79
You think you are going to get more?


If they do get more, then Buffalo absolutely fleeces the other team.

Newsflash.... Buffalo is not that smart. It will not happen.

If Buffalo can get more than a 1st, 2nd, and a top nine player.... have at 'er.
gretzkyghosts a aimé ceci.
18 mar à 18 h 19
#4
Stormy
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Leafs easily pass LOL. What an overpay for a player who isn't even good
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18 mar à 18 h 20
#5
Stormy
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Quoting: CBJStats79
You think you are going to get more?


They are definitely getting less. Kerfoot and a 4th at most for someone with 17 points and a "big" name
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18 mar à 18 h 22
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Quoting: NazemKadri43
Leafs easily pass LOL. What an overpay for a player who isn't even good


You do not understand hockey.

I love blocking the Blue and White Goggles. See ya!
18 mar à 18 h 24
#7
Vegan Commie Hipster
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One of the best top sixes ever even honestly

Two 90 point players
Three 70 point players
One 40 point player

The only better ones were when Mario & Gretz had Boromir Jagger and all stars to play with and maybe the '44 Canadiens and some teams here & there

Oddly the '06 Hurticanes had 6 forwards near PPG

But yeah that many forwards that close to point per game is extremely rare and usually results in a cup
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18 mar à 18 h 26
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Quoting: Radu47
One of the best top sixes ever even honestly

Two 90 point players
Three 70 point players
One 40 point player

The only better ones were when Mario & Gretz had Boromir Jagger and all stars to play with and maybe the '44 Canadiens and some teams here & there

Oddly the '06 Hurticanes had 6 forwards near PPG

But yeah that many forwards that close to point per game is extremely rare and usually results in a cup


Exactly. Thanks for your feedback!

I like it when people understand the game and how it is played.
18 mar à 18 h 28
#9
Shibbal18
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Quoting: CBJStats79
You think you are going to get more?


I think they could get better. A late 1st and a late 2nd in a terrible draft would be beaten by 1 decent prospect, and Kerfoot is a cap penalty, they need that cap next year
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18 mar à 18 h 28
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Sabres pass


Give me one reason why the sabres pass this trade. Kerfoot and a first is enough, as Hall has struggled this season. Hall is also a rental on the nhl's worst team. I cannot see a single reason for them to pass.
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18 mar à 18 h 29
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Quoting: Saskleaf
Give me one reason why the sabres pass this trade. Kerfoot and a first is enough, as Hall has struggled this season. Hall is also a rental on the nhl's worst team. I cannot see a single reason for them to pass.


This guy, right here!
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18 mar à 18 h 29
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Quoting: Saskleaf
Give me one reason why the sabres pass this trade. Kerfoot and a first is enough, as Hall has struggled this season. Hall is also a rental on the nhl's worst team. I cannot see a single reason for them to pass.


Quoting: Saskleaf
Give me one reason why the sabres pass this trade. Kerfoot and a first is enough, as Hall has struggled this season. Hall is also a rental on the nhl's worst team. I cannot see a single reason for them to pass.
18 mar à 18 h 29
#13
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Quoting: Trevorchef
This guy, right here! happyhappy


Sabres pass
18 mar à 18 h 30
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Quoting: Shibbal18
I think they could get better. A late 1st and a late 2nd in a terrible draft would be beaten by 1 decent prospect, and Kerfoot is a cap penalty, they need that cap next year


I just don't think Toronto needs to worry about a player like Hall this year at the trade deadline.
18 mar à 18 h 32
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Sabres pass


You didn't answer my question of why. Because I seriously cannot think of one reason they pass...
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18 mar à 18 h 32
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Shibbal18
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Quoting: CBJStats79
I just don't think Toronto needs to worry about a player like Hall this year at the trade deadline.


I agree
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18 mar à 18 h 33
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Shibbal18
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Quoting: Saskleaf
You didn't answer my question of why. Because I seriously cannot think of one reason they pass...


I quoted you 2x instead of quoting myself. This is what i meant:
Quoting: Shibbal18
I think they could get better. A late 1st and a late 2nd in a terrible draft would be beaten by 1 decent prospect, and Kerfoot is a cap penalty, they need that cap next year
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18 mar à 18 h 37
#18
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Quoting: Shibbal18
I quoted you 2x instead of quoting myself. This is what i meant:


Kerfoot isn't a cap penatly. He's probably be Buffalo's 1c with Eichel now out and Staal likely being traded. And sure, we can give you Liljgren instead if you want.
18 mar à 18 h 45
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Banni
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Sabres pass


I don’t like Kerfoot,
but it’s a reasonable offer imo
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18 mar à 18 h 46
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Quoting: Saskleaf
Kerfoot isn't a cap penatly. He's probably be Buffalo's 1c with Eichel now out and Staal likely being traded. And sure, we can give you Liljgren instead if you want.


That doesn’t mean we WANT Kerfoot though
And yeah, I’d rather have Liljegren
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18 mar à 18 h 48
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Quoting: Jdfitz77
That doesn’t mean we WANT Kerfoot though
And yeah, I’d rather have Liljegren


Ok, we will send him else where. He'd get at least a 3rd. And I feel like trading Liljgren is what Toronto is going to do at this point. Hall is certainly good return for him.
18 mar à 18 h 48
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Quoting: Saskleaf
You didn't answer my question of why. Because I seriously cannot think of one reason they pass...


I doubt they would pass. It is a solid offer for a player that will most certainly not be there next year.

Hall liked the coach. The coach is gone now and the brutal remains of the franchise executives remain.

I'd want the hell out of there too.
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18 mar à 18 h 50
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Quoting: Saskleaf
Ok, we will send him else where. He'd get at least a 3rd. And I feel like trading Liljgren is what Toronto is going to do at this point. Hall is certainly good return for him.

I just don’t think Sabres fans are interested in the same 5guys u Leafs fans are all trying to trade
Kerfoot, Andersen, Engvall, etc etc etc

The picks are nice though
Just depends what other teams would offer for Hall
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18 mar à 19 h 06
#24
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Quoting: Jdfitz77
I just don’t think Sabres fans are interested in the same 5guys u Leafs fans are all trying to trade
Kerfoot, Andersen, Engvall, etc etc etc

The picks are nice though
Just depends what other teams would offer for Hall

The picks arent even that nice I would rather get a good prospect and a long term prospect than a 20211st and 2nd
18 mar à 19 h 32
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Quoting: Saskleaf
You didn't answer my question of why. Because I seriously cannot think of one reason they pass...


Kerfoot.....
 
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