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NJD Maybe Buyers and Sellers

Créé par: NHLfan10506
Équipe: 2020-21 Devils du New Jersey
Date de création initiale: 7 mars 2021
Publié: 7 mars 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Not sure how close these are on Dumba and Kunin, but two guys I'd really like to pick up either at deadline or before expansion draft if they are being moved.

Most the other trades are UFA rental deals (Vatanen a candidate for waivers at this point)

(yes, I know I have 4 contracts retained...Subban deal would be after season, pre-expansion)

Two NCAA signings from their Reserve List: Tyce Thompson (probable) and Case McCarthy (possible)
Three call-ups from AHL: Nolan Foote (probable), Reilly Walsh (possible), Nikita Okhotyuk (possible)

(and yes, my healthy scratch list is too long...some of these to AHL some to Taxi)
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LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3925 000 $
3925 000 $
Transactions
1.
NSH
  1. Boqvist, Jesper
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (NJD)
2.
NJD
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (CGY)
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2022 (CGY)
3.
NJD
  1. Langenbrunner, Mason [Liste de réserve]
  2. Vaakanainen, Urho
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (BOS)
BOS
  1. Murray, Ryan (2 300 000 $ retained)
  2. Palmieri, Kyle (2 325 000 $ retained)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (NJD)
4.
NJD
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2022 (COL)
COL
  1. Zajac, Travis (2 875 000 $ retained)
5.
NJD
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2021 (EDM)
6.
NJD
  1. Choix de 7e ronde en 2023 (ANA)
Détails additionnels:
Waivers
7.
MIN
  1. Subban, P.K. (3 000 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (NYI)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (NJD)
Rachats de contrats
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2023
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
3081 500 000 $68 226 054 $0 $4 605 000 $13 273 946 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
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7 250 000 $7 250 000 $
C
UFA - 7
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
894 167 $894 167 $
AG
RFA - 4
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
C
UFA - 2
Logo de Predators de Nashville
2 300 000 $2 300 000 $
AD, C
RFA - 2
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
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775 833 $775 833 $ (Bonis de performance132 500 $$132K)
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
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809 167 $809 167 $ (Bonis de performance132 500 $$132K)
C, AG
UFA - 2
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
C
RFA - 1
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714 166 $714 166 $ (Bonis de performance132 500 $$132K)
AD
UFA - 1
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
DG/DD
RFA - 3
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4 166 666 $4 166 666 $
DD
UFA - 3
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2 800 000 $2 800 000 $
G
UFA - 3
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2 822 764 $2 822 764 $
DG
UFA - 2
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800 000 $800 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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795 000 $795 000 $
DG
RFA - 4
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925 000 $925 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
925 000 $925 000 $
AD
RFA - 2
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925 000 $925 000 $
DD
RFA
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
811 666 $811 666 $ (Bonis de performance32 500 $$32K)
AG, C
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $
AD, C
RFA - 4
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874 125 $874 125 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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700 000 $700 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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700 000 $700 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
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700 000 $700 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
DG/DD
RFA - 2

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7 mars 2021 à 9 h 32
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Why would you give up a lottery pick
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7 mars 2021 à 9 h 35
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Quoting: jasonliq
Why would you give up a lottery pick


I don't know what the particulars with the deal would be, just wanted to flag two guys I'd like to grab.
If we could do so without losing the pick, great.
7 mars 2021 à 9 h 35
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The Bruins aren’t trading Urho and a first for rentals
7 mars 2021 à 9 h 36
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Flames accept. smile

Predators decline. frown

And it appears you're getting fleeced in the trade with Minnesota, so please be careful out there smile
7 mars 2021 à 9 h 40
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The Bruins aren’t trading Urho and a first for rentals


Thats fine...make it Loheri, 2nd, something...whatever
Either way, not going to be major piece for NJD going forward
7 mars 2021 à 9 h 43
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Quoting: Pasta88bruins
The Bruins aren’t trading Urho and a first for rentals


They’d take that deal in a heartbeat.
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7 mars 2021 à 9 h 56
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Flames accept. smile

Predators decline. frown

And it appears you're getting fleeced in the trade with Minnesota, so please be careful out there smile


Thanks
Didn't dig far on finding right values...as much as.... list of guys in, list of guys out.
Maybe I'll tweak later
7 mars 2021 à 9 h 58
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I think the Nashville offer is intriguing. Kunin is someone who hasn’t really had the chance to show what he can do.
7 mars 2021 à 10 h 4
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NJ is in a similar situation to Ottawa, where their 1st is probably not on the table, which makes a Dumba deal difficult. You could add some kind of stipulation that it's a top 10 protected 1st, so it reverts to 2022 if NJ doesn't turn it around (if it's a deadline deal). Alternatively, I think Mercer could replace the 1st, and then just add from there.

I see Zacha is having a breakout year, how is he viewed by the organization? I have to assume Hughes and Hischier are still expected to be the centers of the future? Unless they're just going to shift Hughes to wing.
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
Thanks
Didn't dig far on finding right values...as much as.... list of guys in, list of guys out.
Maybe I'll tweak later


Looking at the trade history of the pieces involved serves as a very good reference point.


Gusev fetched a 2nd and a 3rd when he was traded to New Jersey. Calgary is in need of a Top 6 RW who shoots right and this could be a bargain for the Flames.


Kunin fetched Bonino + a 2nd + a 3rd for Minnesota and could become a ray of sunshine for the Predators, once he comes back from injury.



As for the Subban-Dumba trade, the Devils get the same type of player that Minnesota gets and add 1 million to their cap hit while Minnesota gains 1 million in cap relief.

And you're giving Minnesota a possible lottery pick. That's not an ideal situation for the Devils to say the least. smile
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Thats fine...make it Loheri, 2nd, something...whatever
Either way, not going to be major piece for NJD going forward


def aren't moving lohrei
7 mars 2021 à 10 h 22
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Quoting: Shane_Kelly
def aren't moving lohrei


These are a lot of Bruins fans saying definitely this, definitely that. I will stick with this deal for now. Value-wise it’s probably about right.
7 mars 2021 à 10 h 22
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you need to find another team for Zajac my man, hes not at all a fit on the avs at his age, skating ability and at even 50% retained, not worth it
7 mars 2021 à 10 h 24
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Quoting: sensonfire
Looking at the trade history of the pieces involved serves as a very good reference point.


Gusev fetched a 2nd and a 3rd when he was traded to New Jersey. Calgary is in need of a Top 6 RW who shoots right and this could be a bargain for the Flames.


Kunin fetched Bonino + a 2nd + a 3rd for Minnesota and could become a ray of sunshine for the Predators, once he comes back from injury.



As for the Subban-Dumba trade, the Devils get the same type of player that Minnesota gets and add 1 million to their cap hit while Minnesota gains 1 million in cap relief.

And you're giving Minnesota a possible lottery pick. That's not an ideal situation for the Devils to say the least. smile


Thanks.
Can adjust that MN deal.
7 mars 2021 à 10 h 24
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you need to find another team for Zajac my man, hes not at all a fit on the avs at his age, skating ability and at even 50% retained, not worth it

Zajac to Avs originally came from Colorado fans
7 mars 2021 à 10 h 26
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Quoting: Jwilliams2k12
I think the Nashville offer is intriguing. Kunin is someone who hasn’t really had the chance to show what he can do.


Let’s do this.
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7 mars 2021 à 10 h 32
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Zajac to Avs originally came from Colorado fans


Richard does every UFA C trade imaginable, just bc he posted it once doesnt mean its the best option or the right option

with the current avs injury woes, trying to get Dell and Vatanen or Murray would be a better use of Cap space than Zajac
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7 mars 2021 à 10 h 32
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Let’s do this.
Have your people call our people.


I personally don’t want to trade Kunin. He has some good offensive ability and Nashville needs that. He’s young also so he can be apart of the rebuild.
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7 mars 2021 à 11 h 54
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Send Gusev to Cal for Bennett
Or to minny with a plus to get dumba (kaprizov will he happy)
Or to Pitt for one of the young defenders, add where necessary
PK can't be moved with that contract but try
Palms as a rental, I feel he might come back on a decent deal
Zajac to the island
Could try Palms and Zajac retained with an add for wahlstrom (probably not though) and rake back 7ncle Leo
I'd try and keep Dell
Stuff like that
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7 mars 2021 à 11 h 55
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Send Gusev to Cal for Bennett
Or to minny with a plus to get dumba (kaprizov will he happy)
Or to Pitt for one of the young defenders, add where necessary
PK can't be moved with that contract but try
Palms as a rental, I feel he might come back on a decent deal
Zajac to the island
Could try Palms and Zajac retained with an add for wahlstrom (probably not though) and rake back 7ncle Leo
I'd try and keep Dell
Stuff like that



Gusev and a + doesn't get Dumba. We have no interest in Gusev.
7 mars 2021 à 12 h 29
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1. Im fine with the Preds trade
2. Brutal for NJ
3. Good with that trade
4. Good trade, maybe try to get more
5. Good but make the pick conditional based on how the Avs finish
6. Good
7. Yes, bye bye Sami
7 mars 2021 à 12 h 59
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@Devil1122
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Edited MIN deal so 2021 1st stays.
7 mars 2021 à 12 h 59
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Edited MIN deal so 2021 1st stays.


That's way off for Minnesota. Way, way, way, way off.
7 mars 2021 à 13 h 4
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That's way off for Minnesota. Way, way, way, way off.


MIN has expansion draft problem in that they can only protect so many d-man.
Dumba likely left unprotected.
And not many teams moving to acquire him and $6 million.
So maybe its off....but probably not way way way off.
7 mars 2021 à 13 h 7
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MIN has expansion draft problem in that they can only protect so many d-man.
Dumba likely left unprotected.
And not many teams moving to acquire him and $6 million.
So maybe its off....but probably not way way way off.


No, it's extremely far off. We'll protect him if we don't trade him. It's a bad offer. I told you what would need to be involved to make a deal happen. Your offer is nowhere close to adequate.
 
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