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Trading Keller

Créé par: desertdog111
Date de création initiale: mar 1, 2021
Publié: 1 mar à 20 h 33
Équipe: 2020-21 Coyotes de l'Arizona
Transactions
ARI
  1. Bokk, Dominik
  2. Suzuki, Ryan
  3. Skjei, Brady
  4. Foegele, Warren
  5. 2021 1e round pick (CAR)
Détails additionnels:
Replacement LW, Skjei is a cap consequence but fits well in the 3 LD role and for Coyotes expansion draft protections, 2 good prospects and a first
CAR
  1. Keller, Clayton
ARI
  1. 2021 4e round pick (PHI)
PHI
  1. Demers, Jason
ARI
  1. Harkins, Jansen
  2. 2021 2e round pick (WPG)
WPG
  1. Goligoski, Alex (2 700 000 $ retained)
ARI
  1. Blais, Samuel
  2. 2021 5e round pick (STL)
Détails additionnels:
I’m not sure of Blais’ value
STL
  1. Raanta, Antti (2 100 000 $ retained)
Rachats de contrats
  • Michael Grabner: 833 333 $
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Alex Goligoski: 2 700 000 $ (49.32%)
  • Antti Raanta: 2 100 000 $ (49.41%)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2021
CAR
ARI
CBJ
WPG
ARI
PIT
PHI
ARI
STL
ARI
2022
ARI
ARI
ARI
ARI
ARI
ARI
ARI
2023
ARI
ARI
ARI
ARI
ARI
ARI
ARI
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $73 038 617 $196 951 $0 $8 461 383 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
ARI
Crouse, Lawson
1 533 333 $
AG
RFA - 2
ARI
Schmaltz, Nick
5 850 000 $
C
UFA - 6
ARI
Garland, Conor
775 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
CAR
Foegele, Warren
2 150 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
ARI
Dvorak, Christian
4 450 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 5
ARI
Kessel, Phil
6 800 000 $
AD
NMC NTC
UFA - 2
STL
Blais, Samuel
1 500 000 $
AD
RFA - 2
ARI
Brassard, Derick
1 000 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
ARI
Pitlick, Tyler
1 750 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
ARI
Caggiula, Drake
700 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
ARI
Larsson, Johan
1 400 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
ARI
Fischer, Christian
1 000 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
ARI
Chychrun, Jakob
4 600 000 $
DG
UFA - 5
ARI
Lyubushkin, Ilya
1 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
ARI
Kuemper, Darcy
4 500 000 $
G
UFA - 2
ARI
Ekman-Larsson, Oliver
8 250 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 7
ARI
Hjalmarsson, Niklas
5 000 000 $
DG/DD
NMC
UFA - 1
ARI
Hill, Adin
800 000 $
G
RFA - 1
CAR
Skjei, Brady
5 250 000 $
DG
UFA - 4
ARI
Oesterle, Jordan
1 400 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
WPG
Harkins, Jansen
725 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 2
ARI
Hossa, Marián
5 275 000 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 1
ARI
Hayden, John
750 000 $
C, AD
RFA - 1
ARI
Gross, Jordan
750 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
Équipe de réserve
ARI
Tendeck, David
783 333 $ (0 $)
G
RFA - 3
ARI
Hunt, Dryden
750 000 $ (0 $)
AG, AD
RFA - 1
ARI
Fasching, Hudson
737 500 $ (0 $)
AD
UFA - 1
ARI
Ness, Aaron
725 000 $ (0 $)
DG
UFA - 1
ARI
Chaput, Michael
700 000 $ (0 $)
C
UFA - 1

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1 mar à 20 h 47
#1
Rejoint: jun 2020
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The Canes fan recommendation for Keller was already too high and now it is worse. Pass from this Canes fan. Way too much for a guy who has scored 60 once.
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1 mar à 20 h 49
#2
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Keller + hayton for nylander
1 mar à 20 h 52
#3
Rejoint: mar 2019
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Canes IMO accept. Skjei/Foegele/Bokk/Suzuki/1st are all good pieces and probably make Arizona better in the future, but Keller is currently the best player of the bunch. Players like him are why you build upper-echelon farm systems.
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1 mar à 20 h 55
#4
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Quoting: ecupirate07
The Canes fan recommendation for Keller was already too high and now it is worse. Pass from this Canes fan. Way too much for a guy who has scored 60 once.


A lot of Keller's relatively low offensive numbers are about the team that he plays for. They don't have a lot of premium offensive pieces outside of him to take attention away from him. IMO that package is a buy-low.
1 mar à 21 h 03
#5
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Quoting: truculence67
Keller + hayton for nylander


No
1 mar à 21 h 06
#6
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Quoting: ecupirate07
The Canes fan recommendation for Keller was already too high and now it is worse. Pass from this Canes fan. Way too much for a guy who has scored 60 once.


It’s a chips on the table all in move. The only guys you’re losing on the active roster are a guy you are exposing in expansion anyway and a guy who’s being pushed down the depth chart by acquiring Keller anyway
1 mar à 21 h 10
#7
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Skjei, Bokk, and the 1st seem like the way to go here. Skjei is a good add for ARI and moves a good chunk of salary, Bokk COULD hit and be stupid good, and the 1st will let them pick the next Mitch Miller. That’s a good package for a guy on a big contract that hasn’t put it all together.
1 mar à 21 h 10
#8
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Quoting: Hockyluv21
A lot of Keller's relatively low offensive numbers are about the team that he plays for. They don't have a lot of premium offensive pieces outside of him to take attention away from him. IMO that package is a buy-low.


yea that sounds nice until you throwing 2 NHLers, a first rounder, and two high prospects on the table. It aint worth it hoping his low production is only because of Arizona.
1 mar à 21 h 12
#9
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Yeah...the jets aren’t doing that
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1 mar à 22 h 52
#10
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Quoting: jnowariak
Skjei, Bokk, and the 1st seem like the way to go here. Skjei is a good add for ARI and moves a good chunk of salary, Bokk COULD hit and be stupid good, and the 1st will let them pick the next Mitch Miller. That’s a good package for a guy on a big contract that hasn’t put it all together.


Would you guys trade Martin Necas for Goligoski Jenik and a 1st? If your answer is no then you have your answer for that proposal
1 mar à 23 h 01
#11
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Quoting: desertdog111
Would you guys trade Martin Necas for Goligoski Jenik and a 1st? If your answer is no then you have your answer for that proposal


Martin Necas is on a similar trajectory but is only getting paid 800k as opposed to 7 mil, Skjei is 7 years younger than Goligoski so I don’t think this is apples to apples. I’m willing to haggle between Suzuki and Bokk but cap has to go the other way and Skjei is still a serviceable D man, if a tad overpaid.
1 mar à 23 h 16
#12
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Quoting: jnowariak
Martin Necas is on a similar trajectory but is only getting paid 800k as opposed to 7 mil, Skjei is 7 years younger than Goligoski so I don’t think this is apples to apples. I’m willing to haggle between Suzuki and Bokk but cap has to go the other way and Skjei is still a serviceable D man, if a tad overpaid.


My point is if the coyotes are gonna trade Keller they shouldn’t just do it for a first and a “maybe” prospect. Needs to be something worthwhile coming back. So if Bokk a first and cap filler is best they can do then coyotes pass
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1 mar à 23 h 22
#13
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Quoting: desertdog111
My point is if the coyotes are gonna trade Keller they shouldn’t just do it for a first and a “maybe” prospect. Needs to be something worthwhile coming back. So if Bokk a first and cap filler is best they can do then coyotes pass


That’s fair, his cap hit is gonna drive the return down in this environment. If the yotes want to win though, you don’t think about trading a guy like Keller. I know this came from the Athletic board and the best logic they could come up with is that this is the best way to get good picks back and he gets paid more over time. Pretty fluffy to me.
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