3 Actually. I wish they never traded Rask (don't we all I guess).

that would be ironic. steen is retired and u forgot seattle and dermott but everything else works

Steen signed his retirement papers? When.

Dermott goes to Seattle.

Rask v. Pogge....looks like the B's had chosen the right one in the Raycoft deal, JFJ was an evil genius.

im pretty sure steen is retiring but idk if its official and dermott to seattle makes sense

Scratch Steen and bring back another ex Leaf / Blues legend, Bozak.

Well that what happens when you hire really poor GMs. Quinn made some awful moves, then Ferguson, then Burke then Nonis. I call it the "Dark Ages". Even Dubas, just with his RFA signing has been mediocre at best..

Yes, he's "injured" aka he retired. I heard that too. St Louis can be under the cap now. Just like NYI with Boychuk and Tamps with Kuch (Although Kuch is 10 times better than those 2 combined).

Ya, the fact that Dubas is one of the best leafs gm's since Conn Symthe is very worrying lol.

Fun fact Leafs could have had the best goalie tandem in the NHL if they had proper management and had not traded rask and if Burke didnt trade up to draft Biggs who never did much here.

Just Imagine Rask/Gibson in a 1a/1b system

Oooof that sucks. At least they have Freddy... never mind they surrendered Seguin and Hamilton to get him (picks of Seguin and Hamilton were traded for Kessel, which was traded for a first, which was traded for Anderson).

Cap cheating is nothing new, heck even the Leafs played that game, Robidas Island, Lupul Limbo, Clarkson and Horton LTIR trades.

Fun fact; Rask probably wouldn't have had the same development curve in the Leafs system and Leafs would not have drafted another goalie (Gibson) even if they kept that pick.

Fun fact; Loungo was drafted with a Leaf pick, along with S. Neidermeyer, those "facts" aren't history worth talking about.

Fun fact: if the Leafs bottom out one season earlier they could have drafted Super Mario instead of Clark 1st Overall. You see those "what if's" don't really matter.

The Kessel trade, the first sign of Dubas genius.

Quinn was awesome, two Final 4 appearances and no missed playoffs. The two Pats Era (Burns/Gilmour and Quinn/Sundin) are the only Era's worth talking about for the past 50 years. Sittler and Matthews Era's are close to the Legend status.

actually they do cause with all the bad trades management did they lost out on alot of top end talent. If Burke didnt trade up for biggs Rakell and Gibson would have made the freddie trade never happen so Lou could have used the 1st to either trade for a top end RHD or draft someone like Debrincat. Instead of trading for Kessel leafs could have had Seguin and Hamilton, instead of trading down leafs draft Konecney. Instead of trading the pick to draft up for Jared knight Burke drafts Saad. Basically the amount of damage Burke did to the leafs in the 2011 draft set them back and even now they still have not recovered from the dmg . While Marner or Nylander would not have happened because of the leafs being in a better position Leafs could draft Boeser, Barzel, or Connor in 2015 and in 2014 Pastranak, Tuch or Kempe. Basically the leafs would have been similar to how Colorado is rn

Saad-Kadri-Boeser/Barzel/Konnor
Rakell-Seguin- Tuch/Pastranak/Kempe
Hyman-Steel-Mikheyev
Simmonds-Thorton-Spezza

Rielly-Hamilton
Muzzin-Brodie
Sandin-Lehtonen

Gibson
Rask

20/20 hindsight on Drafts are incredible unfair.

Rask and Pogge were close to equals at their young age, it was their development which seperated their true worth, Rask would have been hot garbage going thru the Leafs system. I always use the logic when talking about Marty Brodeur, I'm sure if Kidd or Potvin (the goalies drafted before and after Marty) would have been H.O.F.er's too in the Devils system.

As for the Kessel trade, he helped the Leafs to go to the bottom of the League with his "dedicated" effort. So scratch Sequin and Hamilton off the team.

Konecny was Dubas mistake.

Gibson wasn't on any teams hot list, the Ducks got lucky with that selection.

Debrincat is a fluke, he dropped in the draft selection because he is a smurf.

Konecney was not a Dubas mistake lul he was not incharge of drafting back then. Hunter and Lou were. Dubas would have drafted Konecney as a 5 foot 10 player was right up his alley but Hunter and Lou felt trading down was the smarter move. Dubas could make suggestions but as was the case of Cirelli and Hart Lou or Hunter would rather draft the big player.

Don't care, Dubas was the GM, Shanny was the Pres. , Lou was Advisor and Hunter was Head Scout, if Dubas was just a pansy than he shouldn't have been named GM, grow a pair. The record book will state and remember Dubas as the GM that passed on Konecny.

Dubas was named gm May 11, 2018. Konecney was drafted in 2015 lul. So Dubas was gm in 2015 no. Lou was GM at the time with Hunter and Dubas being the assistant gms with Hunter in charge of Scouting and Drafting and Dubas primarily trades.

Dubas did have a say in trades but Lou and Hunter had preference for bigger men with the one exception of Bracco for his USHL record looking like a steal.

Check the dates again, Dubas was intern GM Apr. to July of 2015, he did the draft and free agents and Dubas handled the Kessel to the Pens trade, Lou entered the Leafs office mid July 2015 to replace Dubas.

wow....fact checkers need fact checked, this isn't Facebook.

Dubas and Mark Hunter filled the role of interim general manager for the Maple Leafs in 2015, after Nonis was fired by the club. So both shared the responsibly till Lous arrival Dubas did well with the Kessel trade as if it was up to Lou or Hunter Kapenan was not coming back which would have made it a very bad trade for us.

Changing your story...and re-writing history. Again this ain't Facebook, no cancel culture please.

there are news articles everywhere saying it, Dubas and Hunter were the interm Gms. I know you like to nag on the leafs but Dubas so far has been the best thing for them and he has shown to be the best drafter they have had in a long time. If you cant accept it than shrug to bad. He has set them up well for the future and the development team he has made will keep them steady for years to come

I mean, it's possible they actually were injured lol you never know. But it does seem suspicious.