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Calder Losers of the Decade - Where are they now

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Date de création initiale: 30 nov. 2020
Publié: 30 nov. 2020
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A list of losing Calder nominees since 2010 - I think it's interesting to see and makes you think of the future of the recent losers too.

Not shown: Michael Grabner + Jimmy Howard
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
20114 841 666 $108 717 917 $0 $3 700 000 $6 123 749 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Flames de Calgary
6 750 000 $6 750 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
12 500 000 $12 500 000 $
C
UFA - 6
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
4 995 000 $4 995 000 $
C, AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 7
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
5 875 000 $5 875 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
3 700 000 $3 700 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Predators de Nashville
8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 6
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
7 150 000 $7 150 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 8
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AD, C, AG
NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
1 456 250 $1 456 250 $
AG, C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
AD, AG
NMC
UFA - 1
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Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
916 667 $916 667 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
4 400 000 $4 400 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3

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30 nov. 2020 à 1 h 50
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Kinda funny how recently every defenseman that has lost the Calder is a LD and every defenseman that has won is a RD
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30 nov. 2020 à 2 h 2
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add 3 defense that won and the 7 forwards and you can see how heavily the Calder favors forwards
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30 nov. 2020 à 2 h 6
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Quoting: TheAlien
Kinda funny how recently every defenseman that has lost the Calder is a LD and every defenseman that has won is a RD


That's true! Weird
30 nov. 2020 à 3 h 56
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
add 3 defense that won and the 7 forwards and you can see how heavily the Calder favors forwards


I don't think it's that The Calder favors forwards, just that it's easier for forwards to have Calder level rookie seasons, or at least far more common. A good rookie season for a young Dman, even a high end one, doesn't necessarily look like an award winning season. Dmen who can Dominate as rookies Don't come around often. On the other hand, you can pretty much always count on there being a couple of forwards who can come in and score 30 goals or 60 points or something.
30 nov. 2020 à 3 h 56
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
add 3 defense that won and the 7 forwards and you can see how heavily the Calder favors forwards


I don't think it's that The Calder favors forwards, just that it's easier for forwards to have Calder level rookie seasons, or at least far more common. A good rookie season for a young Dman, even a high end one, doesn't necessarily look like an award winning season. Dmen who can Dominate as rookies Don't come around often. On the other hand, you can pretty much always count on there being a couple of forwards who can come in and score 30 goals or 60 points or something.
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30 nov. 2020 à 4 h 1
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Quoting: Claesson4Norris
I don't think it's that The Calder favors forwards, just that it's easier for forwards to have Calder level rookie seasons, or at least far more common. A good rookie season for a young Dman, even a high end one, doesn't necessarily look like an award winning season. Dmen who can Dominate as rookies Don't come around often. On the other hand, you can pretty much always count on there being a couple of forwards who can come in and score 30 goals or 60 points or something.


I think its more that is focuses on a players production than other aspects of a players game. For example I could argue McAvoy had the better rookie season than Connor, Keller, and Boeser but due to only getting 31 points he was behind them
30 nov. 2020 à 4 h 32
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I think its more that is focuses on a players production than other aspects of a players game. For example I could argue McAvoy had the better rookie season than Connor, Keller, and Boeser but due to only getting 31 points he was behind them


That's fair, but it's also never going to change because most of the writers who vote on those awards also tend to hate "nerd stats", and without those there are no good ways to evaluate the things that Dmen like McAvoy and Heiskanen did well as rookies that would would elevate them over point producing forwards.
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30 nov. 2020 à 5 h 56
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The Calder is just which rookie had the best season, not about the potential future of the players. Looking back at most of the years it's not really close. Just playing the full season and being on a Playoff team is where most of the separation happens.

The 15-16 Calder is the perfect example of that. Panarin (80 games, Playoffs) wins over Ghost (64 games, Playoffs), McDavid (45 games, no Playoffs), and Eichel (80 games, no Playoffs). If McDavid/Ghost plays a full season it could/should have been a closer vote. Or say Eichel and Panarin were swapped teams Eichel probably runs away with it.

I don't agree with the being on a Playoff team part sometimes, but it is easier to pad your stats and have flaws covered up when you play on good teams overall.
30 nov. 2020 à 7 h 37
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Quoting: wabit
The Calder is just which rookie had the best season, not about the potential future of the players. Looking back at most of the years it's not really close. Just playing the full season and being on a Playoff team is where most of the separation happens.

The 15-16 Calder is the perfect example of that. Panarin (80 games, Playoffs) wins over Ghost (64 games, Playoffs), McDavid (45 games, no Playoffs), and Eichel (80 games, no Playoffs). If McDavid/Ghost plays a full season it could/should have been a closer vote. Or say Eichel and Panarin were swapped teams Eichel probably runs away with it.

I don't agree with the being on a Playoff team part sometimes, but it is easier to pad your stats and have flaws covered up when you play on good teams overall.


What about barzal. The islanders drafted 11th that year.
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What about barzal. The islanders drafted 11th that year.


Look who finished behind him. Boeser missed a bunch of games and was on a worse team. Keller played a full season with much worse stats and a worse team. Conner played most of the season, worse stats, less important position, but made the Playoffs. McAvoy missed a bunch of games, but made the Playoffs.

Barzal was a runaway winner with being a PPG, top-6 center without much other competition.
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