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Solving Bolts in worst case scenarios

Créé par: justaBoss
Date de création initiale: nov 24, 2020
Publié: 24 nov 2020 à 11 h 19
Équipe: 2020-21 Lightning de Tampa Bay
Explications
Hypothetically if all their RFAs got max level offer sheets that they'd probably sign for.

Not taking NTCs into account in this post because let's face it the NTC players are the one TB would be moving in this kind of circumstance.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Sergachev, Mikhail56 544 640 $
Cirelli, Anthony56 544 640 $
Cernak, Erik54 365 095 $
Joseph, Mathieu2737 500 $
Volkov, Alexander2737 500 $
Transactions
TBL
  1. Moore, John
  2. Zboril, Jakub
  3. 2021 1e round pick (BOS)
BOS
  1. McDonagh, Ryan
TBL
  1. Strålman, Anton (2 750 000 $ retained)
FLA
  1. Johnson, Tyler
  2. Katchouk, Boris
  3. 2021 1e round pick (TBL)
TBL
  1. 2021 3e round pick (NSH)
  2. 2021 4e round pick (COL)
NSH
  1. Killorn, Alex
TBL
  1. 2021 4e round pick (ANA)
ANA
  1. Paquette, Cédric
  2. Masin, Dominik [Droits de RFA]
TBL
  1. Wood, Miles
  2. 2021 3e round pick (ARI)
NJD
  1. Gourde, Yanni
  2. Moore, John
  3. Lipanov, Alexey
  4. 2021 1e round pick (BOS)
Rachats de contrats
  • Vincent Lecavalier: 0 $
Enfoui
  • Braydon Coburn: 625 000 $ (1 700 000 $)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2021
TBL
NSH
ARI
TBL
COL
ANA
TBL
TBL
TBL
NSH
NJD
2022
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
2023
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2281 500 000 $81 351 133 $0 $500 000 $148 867 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
TBL
Palat, Ondrej
5 300 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 2
TBL
Point, Brayden
6 750 000 $
C, AD
RFA - 2
TBL
Kucherov, Nikita
9 500 000 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 7
TBL
Barré-Boulet, Alex
759 258 $
C
RFA - 1
TBL
Cirelli, Anthony
6 544 640 $
C
RFA - 3
TBL
Stamkos, Steven
8 500 000 $
C, AD
NMC
UFA - 4
NJD
Wood, Miles
2 750 000 $
AG
RFA - 2
TBL
Goodrow, Barclay
925 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
TBL
Coleman, Blake
1 800 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
TBL
Maroon, Patrick
900 000 $
AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 2
TBL
Stephens, Mitchell
737 500 $
C
RFA - 2
TBL
Joseph, Mathieu
737 500 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
TBL
Hedman, Victor
7 875 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 5
TBL
Cernak, Erik
4 365 095 $
DD
RFA - 3
TBL
Vasilevskiy, Andrei
9 500 000 $
G
UFA - 8
TBL
Sergachev, Mikhail
6 544 640 $
DG
RFA - 3
TBL
Foote, Cal
925 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
TBL
McElhinney, Curtis
1 300 000 $
G
UFA - 1
BOS
Zboril, Jakub
725 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
FLA
Strålman, Anton
2 750 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
TBL
Schenn, Luke
800 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
TBL
Volkov, Alexander
737 500 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1

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24 nov 2020 à 11 h 23
#1
bhavikp27
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Change the 1st to a 3rd and then we'll talk. Tampa should keep Foote and not use him to get rid of a bad contract. Stralman is a 3rd pair D, Schenn is a 8th D and not sure if Bahl is ready. In " worst case scenarios ", isn't it more likely all RFAs get bridge deals?
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24 nov 2020 à 11 h 23
#2
y i k e s
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Why would Tampa trade Foote? They could just keep him and us him on D. Trading gourde would be easier than TJ so dump moore for like a 3rd + spec and the trade gourde for little return instead of having to lose Foote who they would desperately need here.

I know it’s worse case but dumping moore and gourde together is super unlikely and hurts you more than splitting them
24 nov 2020 à 11 h 27
#3
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Tired of Studying
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Quoting: bhavikp27
Change the 1st to a 3rd and then we'll talk. Tampa should keep Foote and not use him to get rid of a bad contract. Stralman is a 3rd pair D, Schenn is a 8th D and not sure if Bahl is ready. In " worst case scenarios ", isn't it more likely all RFAs get bridge deals?


Lol no. With Moore coming back as a bad contract BOS will be adding to the pile. That's how dealing with division rivals work.

Strålman works with Sergachev as the 2nd pair D just fine. Schenn is a placeholder D.

By worst case scenario I put the maximum offer sheet contracts with the known compensation for those guys. I do believe that Tampa will re-sign the guys with bridge deals but it's not the point of this post.
24 nov 2020 à 11 h 27
#4
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Quoting: yikes
Why would Tampa trade Foote? They could just keep him and us him on D. Trading gourde would be easier than TJ so dump moore for like a 3rd + spec and the trade gourde for little return instead of having to lose Foote who they would desperately need here.

I know it’s worse case but dumping moore and gourde together is super unlikely and hurts you more than splitting them


Fair enough.
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24 nov 2020 à 11 h 29
#5
Go Wings Go
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Tampa isn't trading Foote, They will need some of their cheap ELCs, Doubt Boston has the cap space for Ryan McDonagh. And that Gourde contract is brutal doubt the Devils have any interest in him.
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24 nov 2020 à 11 h 47
#6
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I think all your contracts are high.
Sergachev is probably in the 4 mil range. I don't know how you came up with 6+. You act like he's a proven 1LD, He's not. He'd be a 2LD at tampa, looking at 4 mil range.
Cirelli probably gets 4-5 range on a short term deal.
Cernak the case could be made for 4 mil as he's probably their best RD as of right now. But it's really hard to say.
They aren't taking cap back when they move McDonagh, that mess up there is a good example as to why.
Although don't count on a huge return either.
24 nov 2020 à 12 h 03
#7
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I highly doubt the Bruins want or would give up all that for McDonagh and the Florida and Nashville trades wouldn't be accepted other wise not a bad job
24 nov 2020 à 12 h 15
#8
stop weegar trades
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Quoting: Scars_37
I highly doubt the Bruins want or would give up all that for McDonagh and the Florida and Nashville trades wouldn't be accepted other wise not a bad job


Are you kidding me? That trade is great for Florida! I'd take that any day!
24 nov 2020 à 12 h 21
#9
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Quoting: pharrow
I think all your contracts are high.
Sergachev is probably in the 4 mil range. I don't know how you came up with 6+. You act like he's a proven 1LD, He's not. He'd be a 2LD at tampa, looking at 4 mil range.
Cirelli probably gets 4-5 range on a short term deal.
Cernak the case could be made for 4 mil as he's probably their best RD as of right now. But it's really hard to say.
They aren't taking cap back when they move McDonagh, that mess up there is a good example as to why.
Although don't count on a huge return either.


Sergachev's value right now probably lies around 4 AAV, but his agency is gonna ask for 6-7 based on term and potential. I think he signs a bridge for around 5 or he's traded. Probably the best trade chip they have and are willing to lose.
I agree that Cirelli is high...he gave him Point money like last year and Point was a 92 point player opposed to Cirellis 44 in 68. I know they are different players, but that's too much IMO.
Cernak is overpayed IMO
24 nov 2020 à 12 h 41
#10
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Quoting: masterjuddi
Sergachev's value right now probably lies around 4 AAV, but his agency is gonna ask for 6-7 based on term and potential. I think he signs a bridge for around 5 or he's traded. Probably the best trade chip they have and are willing to lose.
I agree that Cirelli is high...he gave him Point money like last year and Point was a 92 point player opposed to Cirellis 44 in 68. I know they are different players, but that's too much IMO.
Cernak is overpayed IMO


We will have to agree to disagree on Sergachev's . He's not a 1st pairing guy right now. The potential thing I'm not going to get into that.
As of right now he's on a team where Headman takes that role.

You look at some of the other young guys.
Pulock got 5
Deangelo got 4.8
Nurse got 5.6 but that was before Covid.

All guys on RFA. Similar stats roles.
Really only guys seeing 6+ are UFAs.
4-5 range is where he'll be at. I think Deangelo contract is a good marker for him to be honest.
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24 nov 2020 à 12 h 51
#11
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Quoting: VijayPatel11
Are you kidding me? That trade is great for Florida! I'd take that any day!


Yeah the first round pick is nice but they wouldn't take on Johnson's contract and retain some of Stralman's because that is a lot of cap space that just vanished.
 
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