Looooolll that’s a big NO from tampa

Looooolll that’s a big NO from tampa

Yeah well Tampa might not have a choice, They're in real danger of possibly losing 2 of Cernak, Cirelli and Sergachev if Julien BriseBois can't move players like Gourde, Johnson and Palat. it's not like he can just move let's say Killorn and Johnson and be able to afford to resign all 3 RFAs still need to move one of Gourde or Palat plus move Coburn and Paquette as well.

JBB haven’t moved any player yet because he over values killorn, palat and gourde. He wants 1rst for them which he won’t get but he will get 2nds or 3rds for them when he finally settles

Those contracts with that retention would take about 18 mil cap space for Detroit. You've manage to float quite a bit more cap their way than they have available.

Just looking at the numbers and not the value or sensibility

Filppula $3MM
Erne $997.5K
Hronek $714.186K

$4,711,686 out for Detroit
$9,538,611 current cap space for Detroit

Johnson $5MM
Killorn $4.45MM
Sergachev $$

Take the Detroit cap space, add the out going contracts, and they have $14,250,297 in available cap space. Deduct the incoming contracts of Johnson and Killorn, and the remaining cap is $4,800,297, and then there's the possibly LTIR from Zetterberg of $6,083,333, and the Detroit has a possible $10,883,630 to sign Sergachev.

Forgot the 2 mil retention, leaving them 2.8 mil to sign Sergachev. The Zetterberg LTIR Im skeptical of just because it hasnt been done already so insurance would cover some of his contracts cost. It looks like the NHL already told Detroit no after investigating shortly after he was placed on LTIR in 2018 so Im going on that assumption.

Yeah well Julien BriseBois is totally delusional if he thinks he's going to get 1st round picks for Alex Killorn, Yanni Gourde and Ondrej Palat. Palat is the only one that might get a late 1st round pick. Killorn at best is worth a 3rd round pick. And Yanni Gourde's contract is a killer with 5 years left at $5,166,666 his contract BriseBois would need to add a 1st round pick to move him. Doubt very many teams would take on Gourde's contract especially in a flat cap world. BriseBois needs to get his act together here shortly sounding like training camp could be opening up here in no more then one month. So he doesn't have much more time to get deals done here.

So a 50-60 point 27 yo guy who’s making 5 mil a year for 5 more years has negative value? You’re delusional, also killorn gets a 2nd easy dudes a 40 point guy

Who are you talking about? Gourde isn’t 27 he’s about to be 29 and I wouldn’t label him a 50-60 pt guy either especially considering he’s regressed the past two years.

Gourde is a top 6 foward they are top 4 d they have the same value
Schmidt just went for a third and Toews went for 2x seconds and they play a more important position.

Those contracts with that retention would take about 18 mil cap space for Detroit. You've manage to float quite a bit more cap their way than they have available.

Who are you talking about? Gourde isn’t 27 he’s about to be 29 and I wouldn’t label him a 50-60 pt guy either especially considering he’s regressed the past two years.

Schmidt just went for a third and Toews went for 2x seconds and they play a more important position.

Toews and Schmidt are definitely worth more as they are 3D at minimum. While Gourde has been trending downward for 2 years and would be labeled a mid 6 forward and those don’t have the same value. Toews was labeled as either a 1D or 2D on NYI and Schmidt was behind Theodore on VGK. This really isn’t a hot take on my part either as if you were to have a poll I’d wager 90% + agree with me.

Lol gourde is a middle 6 on the best team in the league, he’s a top 6 on any other team, and Schmidt is not a top3 dman, he’s top 4 at best

That’s weird because Schmidt isn’t played like he’s a “top 4 at best” and VGK routinely goes deep into the playoffs. I’d love to hear your rationale on that statement.

Gourde was put on the 3rd line in tampa this year due too cirelli breaking out if gourde plays top 6 minutes he puts up 50+ points and you can’t say gourde has regressed if he’s only played three seasons, gourde had a phenomenal rookie year than came back down to earth the next year and this year he played on the third and 4th line which hurt his production and Schmidt had been the 4th dman every year for the entire time he played on vegas
Gourde on the other hand which has been pointed out multiple times has regressed for multiple years now. No one is arguing he’s trash but rather he got paid and now his production has regressed making him a “cap casualty/dump”. He may play on the second line for some dumpster fire teams but that doesn’t make him a top 6 guy no matter how you slice it nor does it increase his value.

17-18: 64 pts
18-19: 48 pts
19: 20: 30 pts in 70

Schmidt had been the 4th dman every year for the entire time he played on vegas